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As for Duna City and skyscrapers in Budapest, I really think that the leaders really think things through, before they decide ANYTHING.

I for sure would not like skyscrapers or other high rises in the middle of the city, and actually nowhere inside the Hungária krt ring area. As many others agree too, I would not either like any skyscrapers in the north, it would really ruin the panorama, at least today, when the city looks like it does (who knows about the future). However, in the south, on the location of Duna City and on the north tip of Csepel island, they would fit great I think.

The thing is, that Budapest will indeed need skyscrapers in the future, if the world is continuing to develop as it does today. Why what do we know of the future? Nothing. For all we know, we could have WWIII coming at us before 2010. I mean, we know nothing about the future really.

And beacuse of this, the decision makers should really calm down about the area of north Csepel island, since it is extremely valuable. It is most likely the most valuable large area in Budapest because of its perfect location. It's near the city centre (right outside of the Hungaria krt ringroad), it's on an actual island in Danube, with water surrounding it, the planned M5 will go through that area, and who knows what else that is positive.

To turn that entire area into a park is plain stupidity. To turn a portion of that area into a park, is on the other hand a very good idea. It should be the area nearest Pest.

To build low-rises in the area is also just a very dumb thing to do. That area WILL be very valuable in the years to come, unless something like WWIII will happen.

The very best thing to do is to waiting with exploiting that area, till we know what better to do with it, and not just rushing things. To selling it to the spanish Fadesa was itself a completely idiotic thing to do.

By the way, to use it as an area for the summer Olympics in Budapest (if it will happen) isn't too bright either. ...it's a too valuable area to use it for something that lasts for 2 weeks. Establishments like that could as well be located in areas that already meant to be for sports, or areas that isn't as extremely valuable as the tip of the Csepel island.

The Csepel island is pretty unique in shape and location in relation to a people dense city centre. It is almost the same size as Manhattan, however much of the Csepel island is already occupied.

I'd even dare to say that it is one of the most valuable locations in entire Europe, in relation to its own host city (Budapest) of course. For Budapest, it is far more valuable than what Canary Whaft is to London, since the north tip of Csepel island is so extremely near the city centre, and is still so huge and a completely "empty" and usable area. It's more like La Defense in Paris, which is also pretty near the cities large ring road Boulevard Peripherique. Difference is that the area on Csepel island, which is usable, is much larger than La Defense.


My idea of the way skyscrapers should be built on Csepel island is pretty much a model of Manhattan, but of course in a much, much smaller scale. It would be one broad road in the middle, more like a boulevard (2x3 road lanes + 2x1 tram lanes) and pavements of about 5-6 metres on each side, with a about the same width as Nagykörút. It would be straight roads like in Manhattan, but only two blocks of high rises (1 on each side of the road), with lower high rises out side of these blocks. The blocks in length could go for about 3-4 blocks (north to south), and then descent in height.
To the east, between the lower high rises and Soroksári-Duna, I would put a park similar to Városliget, with a small lake that perhaps could connect to Duna. The M5 would go right under the main, wide road.

I think a solution like this is much better and much more future proof than lets say Canary Wharf or La Defense where the skyscrapers are arranged in a less better order concerning infrastructure, keeping the area from being able to be really populated, like Manhattan.
I know of course, that you can never achieve the atmosphere of Manhattan on Csepel island, since there is not enough peope in Budapest. I'm just saying it is easier for areas a'la Manhattan to be populated... there should be room for growth of the traffic and pedestrians.

Oh dear it's late. I better go to bed :)
 

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Ha jól rémlik akkor még anno volt egy egészen minimális tereprendezés. De ennyi. Ami fura, hogy a nagy tétlenség ellenére a befektetők folyamatosan hallatnak magukról. A Duna City legutóbb a hónap elején Münchenben lett bemutatva egy ingatlanfejlesztésekről szoló rendezvényen, illetve a honlapjukra óriási szünet után ki lett linkelve a hetekben bemutatott budapesti reklámfilm (amit a Budapest Business Region rendelt meg, aminek meg ők a tagjai).

Nekem azaz érzésem, hogy nagyon ráérnek. Még a legoptimistább becslések is arról szóltak, hogy 2016-ra lesznek kész. Ez valszeg jól elfog huzodni.
 

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MR1-en is olyasmiről beszéltek, hogy 2010 előtt nem is volt esedékes az építkezés elkezdése...
Mondjuk biztos jó nekik az ingyen reklám. Gondolj bele.. A világ TOP 10-es ingatlanfejlesztési csoportjába bekerültek.
Egyszerű a dolog,csinálsz egy nagyon nagy komplexumot,aztán világhírű neved lesz,utána meg csak özömlenek a kisebb projektek kérése,azokat meg tudod hitelezni..és összeszedsz annyi pénzt,hogy utána a nagy projekted is kész legyen.
Ez barominagy hülyeségvolt vagy barominagy hülyeség? :D

De komolyan,ha én most ingatlanfejlesztő lennék...és van egy jó bevételem..saccper kábé 10 millióbol megcsinálod azt amit a DunaCity,csak ilyen 10millió forintért sehol nem kapsz ekkora ingyen reklámot a cégednek,mint ők kaptak ezért a "tervekért".
 

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Azért valljuk be, ha ez megépül, vagy sűrűségben a 2-3-szorosa, addigra már nagyon kéne oda az a vasútállomás, amit a MűPa mellé terveznek + a vízi közlekedés masszív fejlesztése. De még azzal együtt is teljesen beállna a környék közlekedése a mai szokások mellett...
 

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^^ What are you all talking about and worried about? This has nothing to do with Duna City. Duna City will(hopefully) be located on the OTHER side of the road.
IF they build this, it doesn't mean there won't be a Duna City too :lol:
 

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Szerintem ez a beépítés egy rendkívül egyszerű beépítés, ami ráadásul nagyon korlátozza a zöldfelületek kinyílását is. Nagyon sűrű a beépítés, és valószínűsítem, hogy ezért kellett az épületek tetejét zöldtetősíteni, mert az épületek akkora helyet foglalnak, hogy zöldtető nélkül nem lenne meg a telken a zöldfelületek százalékos aránya. Ezt magasabb pontházakkal lehetett volna orvosolni, ami megnyitná a kapot a csepeli magaházak felé...
 

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^^ Well, hopefully it will never be realized :)
It would be a 1000 times better to give GREEN LIGHT to Duna City with all the high rises, and convert the above seen area to a large park instead. It is for sure needed in that area of Budapest. And who knows WHEN there will be a park created on the northen Csepel island.
 

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^^ Well, hopefully it will never be realized :)
It would be a 1000 times better to give GREEN LIGHT to Duna City with all the high rises, and convert the above seen area to a large park instead. It is for sure needed in that area of Budapest. And who knows WHEN there will be a park created on the northen Csepel island.
For that the city should buy the entire area because a private investor would never build a park just on its own. Can you bet the chances that the city would spend millions for that purpose?
Plus, a few hundred meters away, on the NE side of Csepel Island there will be a park comparable to Városliget when North Csepel development begins.
 

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For that the city should buy the entire area because a private investor would never build a park just on its own. Can you bet the chances that the city would spend millions for that purpose?
If the city would have the will to hold this area greener, than they could say, ok, you must build small areas for the houses on this part of the city, that is why we allow the skyscrapers! If you really want to have here houses, you will build scrapers!
 

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Épülhet a Duna Passage - Megújul a déli folyópart

Iroda és üzlet | 2010. január 04. 10:05 | nyomtatás | küldés e-mailben
Épülhet a Duna Passage multifunkcionális ingatlankomplexum, miután a fővárosi közgyűlés döntése alapján megszületett az önkormányzat és a fejlesztő között a településrendezési szerződés - mondta a Napi Gazdaságnak Beleznay Éva, Budapest megbízott főépítésze.

A lap hétfői számában azt írja, hogy a fejlesztő, a Wing Zrt. a Vituki egykori telkén 240 ezer négyzetméteren iroda-, lakó-, szálloda- és kereskedelmi létesítményeket épít. A Duna Passage-tól délre lévő Duna City projekt településrendezési szerződéséről és a kerületi szabályozási tervhez fűződő fővárosi egyetértési jogról várhatóan a januári közgyűlésen döntenek.

http://ingatlanmenedzser.hu/iroda_e..._a_duna_passage_megujul_a_deli_fol.aspx?s=rss
 

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^^ Oh dear. Maybe a big hit right to the heart of the Duna City project? I really hope that this doesn't mean that the Duna City project will be halted due to overpopulation of offices in the area! That would suck big time!

But as always, if it is too good to be true, then it is most likely not true.
That goes probably for the entire Duna City project, that goes for Asia Center completion, that goes for the Szervita tér project, and many other "too-good-to-be-true" projects!

But lets be optimistic and hope for the best! :)
 

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Javaslat a Fővárosi Közgyűlés 48/1998. (X. 15.) önkormányzati rendelete 7§ (1) bekezdésében rögzített egyetértési jog gyakorlására, Budapest IX. Kerületi Szabályozási Terve - Nagyvásártelep és környéke ( Duna City ) területe.

http://www.budapest.hu/engine.aspx?page=tirhidden&command=showagendaitem&agendaitemid=71437
Valami hír a közgyűlés döntéséről a Duna City-vel kapcsolatban?
Istenem..bár csak épülhetne.. mihamarabb.

EDIT: Kerestem honlapot, de nem találtam adatot arról,hogy mekkorák lesznek ezek a felhőkarcolók.
 
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