Buffalo 2004/2005 crap photos.

BuffCity said:

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called out by your own boy....sheesh.hno:

Buffaloha said:

thats def one of my faves too. i still have to make a poster of that one for someone

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Where was that taken from anyway? Hotel Lenox?
Hey I'd buy one, but your prices are too cheap.

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Buffalo is such a beautiful city! I don't know why people keep moving from there. If I visit US, the city it will be in the top of my list.

I wonder if Buffalo kept the groth rate from 50's and 60's: Metro Buffalo would have about 2,5 million people. Imagine the skyline. It would be something like Toronto.

And Buffaloha, congratulations! The photos are excellent!

Yuri S Andrade said:

Buffalo is such a beautiful city! I don't know why people keep moving from there. If I visit US, the city it will be in the top of my list.

I wonder if Buffalo kept the groth rate from 50's and 60's: Metro Buffalo would have about 2,5 million people. Imagine the skyline. It would be something like Toronto.

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No doubt! If not better and bigger.

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Size aside, I prefer Buffalo rather than Toronto, but:

Buffalo -- 911,737 (US Census 1930)
Toronto -- 810,000 (Canada Census 1931)

Buffalo -- 958,487 (US Census 1940)
Toronto -- 900,000 (Canada Census 1941)

Buffalo -- 1,089,230 (US Census 1950)
Toronto -- 1,262,000 (Canada Census 1951)

Buffalo -- 1,306,957 (US Census 1960)
Toronto -- 1,919,000 (Canada Census 1961)

Until the 60's, Buffalo and Toronto had basically the same size. Actually, I'm preparing a thread with that thematic: "what if the big cities back in 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's kept the same growth rate?" Imagine a Detroit as big as Chicago, Cleveland as Dallas-Fort Worth, Pittsburgh as Atlanta, Youngstown as Austin...

Almost all the tables are done, and probably next week I'll post the data.

BuffCity said:

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What's with all the secrecy?

Yuri S Andrade said:

Buffalo -- 1,089,230 (US Census 1950)
Toronto -- 1,262,000 (Canada Census 1951)

Buffalo -- 1,306,957 (US Census 1960)
Toronto -- 1,919,000 (Canada Census 1961)

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That's quite a jump for TO over 10 years - were there some annexations or methodology changes that occured during that period? Knowing that comparing US to Canadian census figures can be like comparing apples and oranges sometimes.

Or maybe bayviews will claim 650000 Mexican immigrants moved in during that timeframe only because of goodwill and acceptance from the general poplace and not because of any tangible economic policy changes.

So much for Toronto surpassing Buffalo during Buffalo's heyday as well, it seems it had been growing faster for some time and just happened to pass at about the same time Buffalo peaked, making the difference thereafter more pronounced.

Yuri S Andrade said:

I'm preparing a thread with that thematic: "what if the big cities back in 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's kept the same growth rate?" Imagine a Detroit as big as Chicago, Cleveland as Dallas-Fort Worth, Pittsburgh as Atlanta, Youngstown as Austin...

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If air conditioning violated the laws of thermodynamics, that quite possibly could have happened. Remember, people like to leave the northeast because it's "cold", and then move down south where it's "warm", and then apparently proceed to sit around in AC all day (be it at home, work, or in the car).

Sabretooth said:

That's quite a jump for TO over 10 years - were there some annexations or methodology changes that occured during that period? Knowing that comparing US to Canadian census figures can be like comparing apples and oranges sometimes.

Or maybe bayviews will claim 650000 Mexican immigrants moved in during that timeframe only because of goodwill and acceptance from the general poplace and not because of any tangible economic policy changes.

So much for Toronto surpassing Buffalo during Buffalo's heyday as well, it seems it had been growing faster for some time and just happened to pass at about the same time Buffalo peaked, making the difference thereafter more pronounced.

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The Buffalo figures, in all those years, are the sum of Erie and Niagara counties. About Toronto, those are the official figures from Canadian Census for metropolitan areas. Probably, metro Toronto grow in area too in that period.

However, it's important to stress that Canadian population grow faster than US back then:

US (1940/1950): 14.5%
Canada (1941/1951): 21.8%

US (1950/1960): 18.5%
Canada (1951/1961): 30.2%

So, the explosive grow of Toronto (40.2% - 41/51 and 52.1% - 51/61) is not inconsistent at all.

P.S. I know you were joking about Mexicans, but even so: in 50's and 60's, Canada and Toronto as well, were basically "All-European". And agree with you: that alledgely Toronto and immigrants love affair is annoying.