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· Cowboy of Love
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I know its not like the olden days when you could just chip up to Piccadilly on a whim with your YPRC and jump on a London train for 18 quid but i have to go to London once a month for heritage nazi business and it never costs me more than 22 quid. It makes me laugh that it costs more to travel from London to it (i thought there were laws against that sort of thing!).
Its good for my London-hating side but being more reasonable it doesnt do much for encouraging business travellers or the casual visitor to come up from the capital doe s it?
Its hard enough getting Londoners to venture outside the M25 at the best of times but when they find out it costs them more for the same journey it only adds to it.
 

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What amazes me about the M60 widening is the way they stagger the works and manage to keep the motorway pretty much running. It is a amazing bit of planning and they seem to be have been very good at keeping it relatively 'tidy'.
There has been some great civil engineering going and i wish i had photographed more of it but it is by its very nature a very difficult site to photograph.
 

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Re M60
We've got lively and popular Metrolink and football threads and fans of buildings should take an interest in engineering of any description so this is worth its own thread IMO.
Its probably the biggest building project in the whole of the north west aswell so it is quite important isnt it?
 

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The notion of building a new line is nothing like a new motorway dicksplash!
A motorway uses nearly 4 times as much land space.
Frank Sidebottom probably knows more about it than Dave does!
 

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New Transport Secretary Douglas Alexander is due to announce a £10m fund for the development of nationwide road charging schemes.
He hopes new technology will allow drivers to be charged by the mile.

Mr Alexander, promoted in last week's reshuffle, is to outline how he intends to improve UK infrastructure with minimum environmental impact.

His predecessor at the department, Alistair Darling, announced several pilot road charging schemes.

'Time to face facts'

Cambridge, Durham, Bristol, Bath, Greater Manchester, Shrewsbury, Tyne and Wear and the West Midlands were among the authorities developing road charging proposals.

Conservative transport spokesman Chris Grayling said: "Yet again we have a secretary of state whose only solution to our transport problems seems to be a road pricing system which couldn't be introduced for a decade.

"It's time ministers realised that we need action now to improve transport and not vague ideas for the distant future. They could start by keeping some of the transport promises they've made in the last few years and then quietly dropped."

Mr Alexander said road pricing was one of several measures that had been looked at to tackle congestion.


If we do nothing we simply face eternal gridlock
Douglas Alexander
Transport Secretary

He said that it was time to face "certain basic facts" that as the nation's prosperity improved, people would want to travel more and to travel further.

"And as we travel more, because we live on a crowded island, congestion is set to grow, so if we do nothing we simply face eternal gridlock," he told BBC News.

The debate now was not so much about "why road pricing?", but "how it would be implemented", and the prize for motorists would be "better value out of the road network".

Investment in road capacity would continue where it was justified, Mr Alexander insisted.

Air travel

And he said speed cameras had a role to play, adding: "I've seen it as a driver myself, there is absolutely no doubt where you have cameras, for example where there are tight bends in the road, it makes sense to slow drivers down."

Mr Alexander will be in York on Wednesday, where he will open a new bus service operated by transport giant First.

He will also announce the extension of the Oyster smartcard scheme in London, which will see the cards being accepted in the capital's mainline stations.

He said that while he did not want to prevent people enjoying the benefits of cheap air travel, he was concerned about the environmental impact.

"This is not simply a domestic problem, this is a challenge we need to meet internationally," he said.

"We believe the right way to address those environmental concerns is to bring aircraft within the emissions trading scheme we are trying to get established at the European Union."
 

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I dont get it.
Does jcb mean that all restrictions have been lifted but there were tailbacks anyway?
Thats doesnt bode well does it?
12 lanes anyone?
If so it only goes to prove that you can build more lanes but it doesnt cut congestion.
 

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This means about half of the buses running the very important wilmslow road services over christmas are being removed. In turn this is likely to lead to more poeple fighting over taxis or risking driving when drunk.
Although i accept that UK North buses are old and some of the drivers have not the best english, the timing of the ban defies logic to me.
It would not surprise me if this indirectly leads to an increase in injuries, fights and possibly deaths through people choosing to drive instead, walk home alone or battle for a taxi.
At this time of the year all the students have gone home to mummsies and daddykins house. The Wilmslow Road corridor is more than covered in buses and when the students go home it is bliss.
They wont be missed i assure you. Besides they dont run at the times you worry about - they are GMPTE subsidised night services.
I would go so far as saying that Wilmslow Road services will run better without UK North clogging up the routes. If they are not killing people they are usually sat at Owens Park for ages waiting to nab as many bodies as possible.
Good riddance to bad rubbish IMO.
 

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GOOD!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6279405.stm


Bus companies banned from roads

The bus companies have been permanently taken off the road
Two Manchester bus firms banned from the roads over safety issues have been ordered to stop operating permanently.
UK North and GM Buses, which share the same owner, were initially banned on 22 December over serious concerns about the safety of their drivers.

Both firms had their licences revoked for financial reasons and UK North has gone into administration.

Investigations by the Traffic Commissioner into the safety of buses and driver training are ongoing.

The investigation followed an inquiry into the death of a man in a bus accident in November.

Sign writer Martin Pilling, of East Moor Road, Worsley, Salford, was in the basket of a cherry picker when it was hit by a UK North bus on Wilmslow Road in Rusholme on 1 November.


Martin Pilling died after he was struck by a bus in November

The 27-year-old fell in front of the double decker bus and died at the scene.

The UK North depot was examined three days later and concerns were raised over the safety of the vehicles and the amount of training the drivers had received.

This led to a public hearing in December where North West traffic commissioner Beverley Bell expressed concern over the safety of the firm's Polish drivers.

The hearing was told that 100 of the 130 drivers at UK North were Polish and that many had a poor understanding of English.

During the hearing Ms Bell, who works as an independent regulator for the passenger transport industry, claimed she was not convinced the drivers had been properly trained.

She made the ruling on Friday, after spending time weighing up the evidence.

The bus companies will be allowed to appeal her decision.
 

· Cowboy of Love
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It wouldn't make any difference, parents take their kids to school because they don't want them to mix with other kids. I see it in here in London, the black kids and poorer white kids go by bus like they have always done whilst the richer kids go to their supposedly non selective RC and CE schools or those non selective comprehensives in the catchment areas where the houses are £100,000 more than the average for the borough.
There is an element of this without a doubt - see the traffic outside Mcr Grammar/High as apposed to say Trinity - but my daughter goes to a school in a scummy part of Burnage and it seems that all classes and races drive their little angels to school. Only stupid liberal softies like me get up at daft a clock in the pissing rain and leave my lovely car at home to walk two kids to school.
 

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The working people of south manchester who want to commute into the city centre need an alternative to being crammed in with the students shuttling between Fallowfield and Oxford road.
I do not begrudge students using my buses but i just dont want to have share one with them.
Express buses with limited stops?
Alternative routes that run parallel to Wimslow Road?
A combination of the two?
Ban students from any bus that i get on?
All good ideas i think you'll agree?
 

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nerd may be able to correct me on this but i think it needs an Act of Parliament to close a station and Network Rail must show that the station is is not worth keeping open.
They do this by running a skeleton service and neglect it so people stop using it and they can then claim its unviable. Its a viscous circle and a cynical loophole.
 

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Looks like they are trying to resolve over-crowding problems on Virgin Trains.

From the Birmingham Mail:

Surely this isnt legal?
Arent you entering into some sort of contract when buying a ticket?
I just imagine some hotshot lawyer (or judge) getting bumped by Virgin and opening a huge can of whoopass all over them (i hope).
 

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How do you in very simple language post an image from flickr on here?!?!?!
Do you use mac or pc?

What ever - in flickr if you click on All Sizes the URL should be in a box underneath it.
Cut and paste it into the image box in SSC - which is the little box in Advanced with a mountain on it.
 
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