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Since there isn't a thread that groups together non-Metrolink public transport here is a new one, bit late for the M60 widenning (finishes in a couple of weeks), however, BBC NW news this morning reporting that Virgin are set to increase the frequency and the speed of the Manchester to London trains.

Given they take 2hrs at the moment and run every 30mins they sure are going to be very very good competition for the planes.

All good stuff in my opinion, no doubt Virgin will put a press release out later that will be reported in the MEN.
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I am indeed, probably for the next 16 months or so.
Metrolink said:
IBEH - still working at Sun?
They get news stories directly from news agencies, like Reuters, so that's why you often see the same details and wording on lots of press releases. Ultimately, there's only one story, and Ceefax carried the same one too.

Sorry, I'm being pedantic! I get sick of reading the same news over and over, and I'm always looking for a new slant on it......

Anyway, made me smile when Longfjord mentioned £18 YPRC tickets to Euston. I lived in London for a while 16 years ago, and the price was always about £19 back home if booked two weeks in advance. Guaranteed.

I still haven't used a Pendolino. Must try it sometime. I go to London about once a year now and turn it into an event by flying there.
Metrolink said:
The MEN story and the BBC story are practically identical!!!
near me , the pretwich/bury junction north theres four lanes each way, i think thyre doing it to 5 by the looks of the workers on that overpass thingy.
How many lanes has it been widened to?
I drove down the southern section of the M60 which is being widened at midnight last night. It looked very impressive. The way you have four carrigeways running for a long section of the motorway was good, kinda like the 401 in Toronto.

Ever want the M60 this wide? :D
Yeah I do! The M60 North and M62 possibly carry as much traffic as the 401 I reckon.
And I say possibly, coz I don't know.

If you like driving, you'd fuckin love North American freeways. I've hired a car twice, once in Toronto and once in LA about two years ago, and that nearly blew my head off. The freeway south of LA airport (the 415 I think) is 16 lanes wide and I found myself trying to stop myself laughin at the sheer excitement of it all.... :)




Lets have some buses like this. Best public transport system I've ever experienced.
Argentina? I'd love to go there
About one a minute in rush hour, run 24 hours a day. Thousands of them, just put your money in a machine behind the driver. It even gives you change.
My mate just got back from Argie Bargie. Says they hate the English!
should have grown his hair long and learned some Argentinian Spanish, worked for me, people stopped me and asked the time. :)
Cant for the life of me imagine why!!!!!!
Irish Blood English Heart said:
My mate just got back from Argie Bargie. Says they hate the English!
There's a thread on here somewhere about continuing resentment about Las Malvinas!

(Edit - it's the The Barracks thread)
Irish Blood English Heart said:
My mate just got back from Argie Bargie. Says they hate the English!
Wont interest you but i hear the totty in Argentina is unbeliveable.
LOL.....define 'totty' :hahaha:
The Longford said:
Wont interest you but i hear the totty in Argentina is unbeliveable.
Attractive young laydees.
London in 90 minutes on £14bn super-line

A PLANNED new super-high-speed railway line could cut the journey time from Manchester to London to just 90 minutes.

Network Rail is considering building a £14bn track which would run adjacent to the existing West Coast mainline.

The line would start in Glasgow and run through Manchester on its way to London.

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Tilting trains, running flat out at 180 mph, could mean a trip from Glasgow to London would take three hours and Manchester to the capital just 90 minutes - shaving more than half an hour off current times.

The latest tilting trains are currently limited to 125mph because of the old track. Until 2008, when upgrading work is completed, trains have to slow down around Rugby.

Network Rail's deputy chief executive Iain Coucher was expected to unveil the proposals at a conference by the Institution of Civil Engineers today in London.

Mr Coucher was also expected to tell the conference that Network Rail has estimated the line could be built for between £11bn and £14bn. A fleet of electric trains - similar to the TGVs operating in France - will cost another £650m.

For the scheme to be viable, the firm has calculated that the service will need to carry 21m passengers a year within a decade and 30m in 15 years' time.

A spokesman for Network Rail admitted the proposals did exist and added: "It's one of the options that will be discussed. Before any plans go ahead, they need to be based on sound business costings - which have yet to be carried out."

David Sidebottom - north west spokesman for Passenger Focus, which is dedicated to getting travellers the best deal - said that one of the main problems with the new proposal would be generating the cash to build the infrastructure.

He said: "The notion of building another line at the side of the current one is the equivalent of building another motorway at the side of the M6."
Would he rather the WCML be closed as they build a new line... Fucking Idiot!!

Would be interesting to know where the Manchester station would be built.
jrb said:
He said: "The notion of building another line at the side of the current one is the equivalent of building another motorway at the side of the M6."
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