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On the 14th June 2012 Vincent Tan, Malaysian co-owner of Cardiff City FC, set out plans for an additional £35m investment in the Championship football club. This investment is to pay off debts, upgrade the training facilities to premier league standards and spend £12m upgrading the stadium's capacity by 8,000 seats from 26,828 to around 35,000.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18445138

The stand(s) that will be upgraded have not been announced yet but it will likely be the Ninian stand and possibly another, as there are only private boxes available on the grandstand. It is possible more than 1 stand could be upgraded in order to reduce the impact of 1 tall stand.

This is the stadium currently:



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All that blue, yet they'll now play at home in red. :| Hopefully the expansion happens, 'cause it should make the stadium more interesting, rather than being 'oh so bland'.
 

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Couldnt they just spray paint em red ? Or maybe could have red white and green seats ? Welsh flag or they have a black and yellow flag too
 

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35,000 seats x £50 = £1.4m assuming a seat is £50 that is. Clearly it isn't worth changing the seat colour. Changing the exterior of the stadium shouldn't cost too much.
 

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Cardiff City could see stadium expanded to 35,000 seats by 2014/5 season

Club owner Vincent Tan promised a stadium expansion as part of his plans to develop the club. Now club director Steve Borley says this could be done by season after next.

Capacity at the Cardiff City Stadium could be expanded to 35,000 in time for the start of the 2014/15 season, according to a club director.

Steve Borley also confirmed the Bluebirds would not stage any matches at the 74,000-seater Millennium Stadium in their first year of Premier League action.

Last June, the club’s billionaire Malaysian owner, Vincent Tan, promised a stadium expansion as part of the controversial blue-to-red rebranding.

In a statement outlining how his £100m investment would be spent, Mr Tan earmarked £12m to increase the stadium’s capacity by an extra 8,000 seats.

Mr Borley, managing director of CMB Engineering, said an expansion would be too early for the coming 2013/14 season as procurement would take “the best part of a year”.

As construction would involve temporarily removing the ground’s roof, it could only take place during the close season, he said.

“We’ve never been presumptuous about our promotion. As a club it was case of getting it done first and then worry about the other bits later,” Mr Borley said.

“It’s a pleasant problem to be looking at and it’s something that will be high on the agenda, but my guess is that it would be very much for next season.

“I would say we start planning it for the 2014/15 season.”

He described the expansion as “basically a Meccano job” in which the roof would be taken off to allow pre-fabricated steelwork and pre-cast concrete seating units to be “dropped in”.

“That would take it to roughly 35,000. You can’t design to a seat number, it’s whatever the geometry allows,” Mr Borley said.


“Originally the stadium was designed for 30,000 to 32,000 but we’ve checked our calculations and reckon we could get it up to around 35,000.

“The last time we were in the equivalent of the Premier League our average attendance was 46,000 and there were games at the old Ninian Park where there was 55,000 and 60,000.”

A rudimentary calculation shows that, based on an average ticket price of £25, the additional seats would be worth an extra £3.8m over 19 home league games.

The club is already expecting to see its income quadruple to £80m as a result of promotion.

Any expansion would first require planning permission from Cardiff council.

But Mr Borley ruled out staging any Premier League matches at the Millennium Stadium as Premier League rules don’t allow clubs to “chop and change” their home ground.

He also said the Millennium Stadium pitch “would not last a month in the Premier League”.

“The most important thing to our team is the surface. Our surface is like a bowling green,” Mr Borley said.

“It would be nice to think about it (as a one-off), but at the end of the day when you are in the Premier League you want your home to be a fortress and that will determine your survival.”

Any switch of venue, even for a single match, would require approval from the Premier League’s board of directors.

Earlier this month, rivals Swansea City submitted plans to increase capacity at Liberty Stadium from 22,500 to about 33,000. If given the go-ahead by Swansea council, work will be carried out over three phases.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/cardiff-city-could-see-stadium-2998180
 

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So, they're thinking of adding more seats all around the bowl? Much like the Middies Riverside stadium minus the two tiered stand, eh?

Not wholly unique but not unattractive.
 

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Sounds like the stadium will get a small expansion before the start of the new season:

This summer will see the capacity of Cardiff City Stadium expanded.

Two of the four corners will be filled with seating and a possibility of a third corner being filled also.

One corner will definitely not be filled as one will remain open to allow entrance of machinery and other large equipment into the stadium.

The club are confident they will take the capacity to over 27,500 for next season as a result.

There is a lot of money being spent around the ground with a lot of work already underway.

For many Premier League games there will be very little segregation and virtually every seat will be sold but when the likes of Swansea and Man Utd visit then bigger segregation will be evident.

The stadium will have two giant screens as of next season as well.
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=113423#p1139272
 

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Update from their forum:

Work will start on the expansion of Cardiff City stadium this September and will be completed ahead of the 2014/15 season.

The initial first stage will take the stadium capacity to 32,500.

5,000 seats will be added to the Ninian Stand and a pub like seated area in the concourse area for 1,000 people.

The roof of the Ninian Stand will be higher than other parts of the stadium as a result.

You will not see any seats added to the main bowl until next summer but will see preparation work underway from September.

The plan is to have 27,500 capacity for this season.

Phase 2 will see the the Canton End and Grange End extended by upto 3,000 extra seats per stand taking the capacity to 38,500.

Phase 3 will see the corners filled in to take the capacity to over 42,000.

All this is hoped to be completed within 2 years.

The initial cost is £12m.

The training ground at the Vale is expected to receive its planning permission in the next 10 days and work will start immediately on the site.

Two giant screens costing £500k each will be installed at CCS and they are of a better standard than those at the Millenium Stadium.

The stadium will have 3 LED electronic advertising boards behind the both goals and in front of the Ninian Stand next season, don't complain that much of them will be seen to red, this is not VT but the Welsh Tourist board who have part funded the installation of them.

Club officials have met with Italian kit manufacturers Macron to discuss the possibility of supplying Cardiff City with the kit for 2014/15.

I will do a further update on players later this week.
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115051
 
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Cardiff City seem like they could attract 25-30,000 in the Championship, so this is a very sensible move. I hope that Phase 2/3 are contingent on EPL survival.
 

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this site is using vbulletin 3.8.7 so i can only update the title within this thread, it won't update it on the actual forum, i presume newer version of vbulletin have fixed this. Need a moderator to fix it.
 

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I'll change it to 38,000 as that's the overall capacity given by the Cardiff City Supporters' Trust after their recent meeting with representatives from the club:

We were shown plans for the extension to the Stadium and also the club’s new training ground at Hensol in the Vale of Glamorgan. Phase 1 of the extension relates to the Ninian Stand and will result in an increase of some 5,000 seats to raise the present ground capacity to approximately 32,500. The work will start as soon as planning permission is granted which will hopefully be in Sept/Oct 2013 and will be completed for the start of the 2014-15 season.

Further down the line phases 2 and 3 will extend both the Canton and Grangetown Stands by a further 2,500/3,000 seats (each stand,) giving the Cardiff City Stadium an overall capacity of 38.000.
http://www.ccfctrust.org/?p=3070

In regards to filling in the corners to take the capacity above 38,000, a Trust member said this on the Cardiff forum:

It was said that there is no current intention to proceed with the corner filling , so 38,000 is the current aim.

May be different if we stay up for a few seasons and the stadium is filled every week.
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115051&start=60#p1161781
 

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WalesOnline has an article on this, too:

Cardiff City unveil plans for 38,000-capacity stadium expansion

Work due to start with second tier for Ninian Stand at Cardiff City Stadium, with 5,000 extra seats added by start of 2014/2015 season

Cardiff City have unveiled plans to expand the Cardiff City Stadium to an eventual capacity of 38,000.

Designs have been outlined to supporters as part of an ongoing feasibility study and the first stage of development could begin as early as September or October this year.

Phase one of the expansion would see the ground’s Ninian Stand given a second tier – with the roof of the stand removed before the end of the coming season.

Then 5,000 seats would be put in between May and August next year, in time for the beginning of kick-off in the 2014/15 season.

It is then planned for 2,500 to 3,000 to be added to both the Canton and Grange ends of the ground respectively.

That would bring the overall capacity up to around 38,000 – up from 26,828 currently.

Plans were revealed to Cardiff City Supporters Trust Chair Tim Hartley and board members David Craig and Keith Morgan at the end of last week.

Mr Morgan told WalesOnline: “Stage one is basically an extra 5,000 seats, extending the Ninian Stand to a second tier.

“The reason they can start it during the season is because they can put up a bit of steelwork outside and it only extends across the pavement area.

“They can be working on putting up steelwork in between games without affecting the inside of the bowl.

“For it to be able to be open in time for the following season, they would take the existing roof on the Ninian Stand.

“They were talking about doing that about March. That gives them time between May and August for a seat fit-out.”

The stand is said to include plans for a concourse area on either side with a plush corporate area and catering facilities incorporated in the centre.

Meanwhile, under the plans, two large screens will also be erected at either end of the ground.

The plans have been drawn up with global consulting engineers Arup and will have to go past councillors for approval.

But as Cardiff prepare to take their place in the Premier League for the first time, increased capacity is essential to boost matchday revenue and advertising.

Cardiff City Stadium Manager Wayne Nash confirmed supporters had been consulted on plans but added a feasibility study still needed to be completed.

Mr Nash said: “We are going through a feasibility study and getting a design we are happy with.

“We have given fans an initial look at the concept and told them about the process we want to follow so they can understand what we are doing.”
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...diff-city-unveil-plans-38000-capacity-4330428
 

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Planning application submitted for phase one of the development:









Phase one development proposes to add a second tier to the club’s Ninian Stand and increase the capacity of Cardiff City Stadium to approximately 33,000.

The structure is set to incorporate over 5,000 extra general admission seats with the expansion also offering numerous commercial and hospitality opportunities to the football club.

Speaking of the project, Director of Cardiff City Football Club Steve Borley said: “The application follows a feasibility study carried out by the club earlier in the summer following City’s confirmed promotion to the Barclays Premier League, also giving fans an initial look at the concept in June.

“If approved in a September planning meeting, work on the development of the Ninian Stand will begin in early October 2013 with planned completion set for July 2014, ready for Cardiff City Stadium to host the UEFA European Super Cup between the winners of this seasons UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League.”

Initial work will see no immediate effect to supporters within the stadium. The development will see the structure developed behind the current stand, with plans for the roof to be removed in stages. There will be no loss of seating during the phase one development process.

Steve Borley added: “The planning application was submitted to the relevant local authorities on Friday.

“We are extremely grateful for the guidance and support offered to us so far. We seek to make our approval and build the extension to what is a tight time frame.

“This news adds further excitement for everyone currently involved with the football club and this further investment demonstrates once again fantastic commitment from Tan Sri Vincent Tan."
http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/article/stadium-phase-one-development-994444.aspx
 

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Doesn't make up for changing the club colors, mascot and crest, but is a nice addition.
 
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