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Im not sure if we ever had a specific thread for this... I couldn't find it if we did...

A new mixed use proposal for the North Wharf and Mission to Seafarers site has been proposed by Fender Katsalidis for a 17 level mixed use tower.

The creation of the public open space, Seafarers Rest, is a requirement of the
North Wharf Precinct Plan and the responsibility of the developer. This part of the proposal has been removed from the planning application process and is being assessed by the City of Melbourne’s City Strategy and Place Branch.
The existing permit in place, 2012/002229 allows for the construction of a 14 storey office building with supplementary retail and commercial tenancies. It is sought to amend the permit to provide for the following:

Partial demolition of the existing Goods Shed and construction of a 17 level tower plus mezzanine and roof plant which partly straddles the Goods Shed and comprises of a residential hotel, function centre and apartments with associated carpark and services within the revised building design.
The proposed development continues to be based around the existing historic Goods Shed No.5, with the existing shed structure to be refurbished to provide for a function hall facility fronting on the Yarra River’s wharf edge; and the construction of a 17 level residential and hotel tower immediately behind the shed structure.
The proposed residential hotel component has been designed to target the 4 to 4.5 star hotel market. The lobby and reception areas, as well as a function area (1634m2) associated with the hotel are situated on the ground level, with the rooms, bar/lounge and business centre located on levels 4-6 (inclusive). A total of 231 hotel rooms are proposed.
The amended proposal includes 182 apartments located on levels 8-17 (inclusive) comprising a mix of 1 bedroom (25), 2 bedroom (137), 3 bedroom (18) and 4 bedroom (2).
Shared communal facilities have been provided for within the development and include a health club, residents club and pool located on level 2.
Car parking will be provided in the basement and levels 1-3, with a total of 236 car parks proposed. 181 car parks are to be attributed to the residences, 20 car spaces to the hotel use, whilst 5 spaces are to be set aside for the function centre. The proposal also provides for 118 bicycle spaces and 3 motorcycle spaces.
The building will have a total gross floor area of 53,615 m2.
Amend the conditions of the permit to reflect the new plans and documentation.
In addition to the above, although not part of the application site, the applicant has advised that the nearby helipad will be removed/relocated and a pontoon may be built at the front of the site. This is subject to ongoing negotiations with Parks Victoria, Melbourne Water and the State.

The proposed development comprises:
Dwellings (Levels 8-17)
Total number of residential apartments: 182 ranging in size from 60sqm to 200sqm
One bedroom units: 25 Two bedroom units: 137 Three bedroom units: 18 Four bedroom units: 2
Hotel (Levels 3-7)
231 rooms ranging in size from 55sqm to 200sqm.
Function Venue (Ground floor)
700 patrons

The specific details of the proposal are as follows:
Building height
69.4 metres (including plant)
Gross floor area (GFA)
53,615sqm

Car parking spaces - 236 spaces
Motorcycle spaces - 3
Bicycle facilities and spaces - 108 spaces:
hotel staff – 24,
residents – 48 (Basement) and visitors – 36 (Ground level near entry lobby)







 

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Im not sure if we ever had a specific thread for this... I couldn't find it if we did...


at grade crossing only over wurujuri...pathetic non solution...what world do planners live in in Melbourne? Disaster for the massive and important six lane major urban connector to be brought to a screeching halt for what might be a lone pedestrian.
What pedestrian would want to cross that sewer?

Time for some investment and creativity...this is flat footed planning
 

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The most moronic response I've read.
You either:
- don't own a car
- don't require a car for work
- live inside some green bubble
You take the cars out of the city and you take people out of it as well.
You take the people out and the money comes out too.
You might think that 95% of the population shares your view but they don't refer to green bubble you're in.
I assume you also think that an airport - rail link is the solution to all our problems in regards to traffic in the north ?
 

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Oh Skyrise.. so quick to fall back on the insults, overstatements and get all defensive when someone disagrees with you. Public transport brings people and money into the city too.

You're a precious little cupcake.
Its one thing disagreeing, and its another thing just completely removing cars altogether and being ignorant about it. Sure public transport brings in a certain type of people, but thats about it
 

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Its one thing disagreeing, and its another thing just completely removing cars altogether and being ignorant about it. Sure public transport brings in a certain type of people, but thats about it
Restrict vehicle access doesn't mean get rid of cars altogether. They can keep two lanes, or four lanes, but I maintain that a six lane urban connector ideally should not be required there.

That part of wurundjeri way is busiest during peak hour with commuters over the Westgate added to Montague Street traffic from the south. Take a lane out each way, build the MMR2 or do any number of things that could be done to improve the PT commuting services from the west. Add to that the planned lightrail bridge to fishermans bend and you'll have a more balanced core and better result for PT users, cars and pedestrians.

The suggestion of HenryX is good also.
 

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LOL... worzil, did you have to spoil it for them...damn the Sewer...now they will have to resign just to crossing the road in a normal manner, using the pedestrian crossing when the green light turns on!
The same thing in the other equally busy parts of the City!
 

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Restrict vehicle access doesn't mean get rid of cars altogether. They can keep two lanes, or four lanes, but I maintain that a six lane urban connector ideally should not be required there.

That part of wurundjeri way is busiest during peak hour with commuters over the Westgate added to Montague Street traffic from the south. Take a lane out each way, build the MMR2 or do any number of things that could be done to improve the PT commuting services from the west. Add to that the planned lightrail bridge to fishermans bend and you'll have a more balanced core and better result for PT users, cars and pedestrians.

The suggestion of HenryX is good also.
only issue with that is FB and the MMR2 project are a good 20 years from being any semblance of reality.

so restricting the capacity of those roads would do nothing for decades to come.

on that note #MorePT, im 100% an advocate for more PT and less cars in central cities.

Ive seen it work here in london. Oxford St is being closed off to cars end of 2018. etc.

But the PT infrastructure is already there to cope with demand. Cities laying catch up need to spend on the short term solutions, then the long term, then convert the short term solutions back to other uses once the more expensive and long term infrastructure comes online.

Look at Bostons Big Dig.

Once the tunnels were in full swing they reclaimed the area. The same can be done here ONCE proper alternatives have been completed.
 

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Sink the road a bit and build pedestrian bridges/decks over it.
The W way should be isolated from all at grade intersections for it's entire length starting after big **** up knot on the south side of the river and after the bridge
One slip Lane only on to the W and one slip lane off to serve all of docklands if you must

Fiddle with the grade of the W and drop it a tad to enable less onerous crossing by pedestrians over it with a sky bridge thingy
 

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This one just got approval from MCC:

$400M Project approved for Melbourne's north bank
Herald Sun | 7 February 2017

A $450 MILLION Yarra River redevelopment has won Melbourne city council approval for a higher proposed tower. Developer Riverlee's transformation of the Northbank area will result in historic Goods Shed No.5 becoming a function hall, with a 17-storey hotel and apartment tower behind it.

The hotel will have 231 rooms and 182 apartments will be located on levels 8-17. A city council report said although the tower would be bigger than first planned, the degree of overshadowing was consistent with the already approved development

Read More: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...e/news-story/e8d104ea9f2228550950e584494ff16d
 
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