[Barwon Boy]

I wonder if the old DFO next door will ever be developed now that this is going ahead? This tower I believe requires 24 hour helicopter access so I wonder if they will be allowed to build anything next door. Hopefully it doesn't remain as is, that has to be the worst development in recent times for Melbourne by far. Very poor decision.

Especially with all that's going on around the site it would be a shame to have another CitiPower or The Age on Spencer for the next generation to deal with.

I reckon it's days are numbered.

 

[log0008]

Thanks Les, now that you mention it, I have seen buses using a road angling off Adderley, just behind the Melb. Assessment Prison. I presume construction vehicles could use that, which would be much easier than battling with Spencer Street traffic.

I didn't realise that road was there until a couple of months back when my regional service was replaced by a bus. If I remember correctly there were construction vehicles going down it then not sure what for.

 

[tower_dan]

I wonder if the old DFO next door will ever be developed now that this is going ahead? This tower I believe requires 24 hour helicopter access so I wonder if they will be allowed to build anything next door.

you would assume that helicopter access or not the site directly south of it would e able to house a building the same size as the City West Police Complex.

maybe a height limit for directly adjoining sites but that's about all.

and I agree, i think it will go in good time, they would need to find an alternative bus depot nearby though for at least a few years, might be tricky

 

[SYmlb]

you would assume that helicopter access or not the site directly south of it would e able to house a building the same size as the City West Police Complex.

maybe a height limit for directly adjoining sites but that's about all.

and I agree, i think it will go in good time, they would need to find an alternative bus depot nearby though for at least a few years, might be tricky

This is true. But more mportantly what makes this site less desirable is that there would be a fairly obvious height limit imposed on it, and a lot of developers will look at that and think why would they build there when there are numerous other more profitable sites out there without these restrictions.

But who knows, maybe they would allow numerous shorter towers to go ahead, like the original Southern Cross Station Towers that were planned back in the early 2000s. I suspect VicTrack owns the land and they are known to be selling sites above rail lines in the past (ie. near Windsor/Prahran). We can only hope so.

 

[PaPa Riddlz]

Approved

http://www.afr.com/real-estate/cbus-gets-green-light-for-600m-police-headquarters-20170628-gx02m4

 

[_mark]

Approved

http://www.afr.com/real-estate/cbus-gets-green-light-for-600m-police-headquarters-20170628-gx02m4

Is it in line with the planning rules or have they spent public money on any up scale?

 

[redden]

Is it in line with the planning rules or have they spent public money on any up scale?

This AFR article was posted by Mark Baljak, UM, and states that it wasn't within the latest rules.

"Cbus gets green light for $600m police headquarters

Super fund Cbus Property has gained approval to build Victoria's new police headquarters, a $600 million-plus project that is the first to take advantage of new "public benefit" planning rules.

The 39-storey tower will rise next door to a smaller police station that Cbus Property has already developed on Spencer Street, at the western end of Melbourne's CBD.

The emerging policing hub is opposite the state's assessment prison and is said to be inspired by New York's 1 Police Plaza.

The 65,000-square-metre tower will become state's first purpose-built headquarters in more than half a century.

"The way our authorities fight crime is changing, and we're giving them the modern tools and resources they need," Planning Minister Richard Wynne said.

"This project ticks all the boxes. It's in keeping with our planning controls and it's a big benefit to the state of Victoria."

The new project, which was also endorsed by the city council, will exceed strict limits on CBD development brought in last year by the state government."

Read more: http://www.afr.com/real-estate/cbus-gets-green-light-for-600m-police-hea... (link is external)
https://urban.melbourne/forum/docklands-311-spencer-street-171m-39l-commercial#comment-29748

 

[_mark]

This AFR article was posted by Mark Baljak, UM, and states that it wasn't within the latest rules.



"Cbus gets green light for $600m police headquarters



Super fund Cbus Property has gained approval to build Victoria's new police headquarters, a $600 million-plus project that is the first to take advantage of new "public benefit" planning rules.



The 39-storey tower will rise next door to a smaller police station that Cbus Property has already developed on Spencer Street, at the western end of Melbourne's CBD.



The emerging policing hub is opposite the state's assessment prison and is said to be inspired by New York's 1 Police Plaza.



The 65,000-square-metre tower will become state's first purpose-built headquarters in more than half a century.



"The way our authorities fight crime is changing, and we're giving them the modern tools and resources they need," Planning Minister Richard Wynne said.



"This project ticks all the boxes. It's in keeping with our planning controls and it's a big benefit to the state of Victoria."



The new project, which was also endorsed by the city council, will exceed strict limits on CBD development brought in last year by the state government."



Read more: http://www.afr.com/real-estate/cbus-gets-green-light-for-600m-police-hea... (link is external)

https://urban.melbourne/forum/docklands-311-spencer-street-171m-39l-commercial#comment-29748

Give the Police are tenants I suppose my comment regarding spending doesn't apply. It would be CBus.

 

[redden]

 

[redden]

We can update the thread to "u.c." already. The site was going gangbusters today, with a piler already at work.

 

[Decatur]

It is a very busy site today. There is a long line of trucks waiting in the median of Lonsdale Street, ready to haul away soil and debris. That's the closest feasible waiting position by the looks of things.

 

[pdoff]

^^ Probuild's the builder for both this and WSP. If they've ordered too many trucks they should start filling them with WSP dirt while they're waiting

 

[Jack Daniel]

I remember there was a bit of hoo haa about the blank boundary wall in the pic above. Always new it would be covered by another sooner or later. Sooner in this case.

 

[redden]

It is a very busy site today. There is a long line of trucks waiting in the median of Lonsdale Street, ready to haul away soil and debris. That's the closest feasible waiting position by the looks of things.

I wondered about the road at the rear, which curves around to Adderley Street, but looks like they're sticking with the main streets.

 

[A-brain]

Nice big sandpit here ..

Will be a good support act to WSP this one ..

 

[db2]

Nice big sandpit here ..

Will be a good support act to WSP this one ..

The quicker this is done the better, Federal Police may move into this (I think) freeing up 383 LaTrobe for Jean Nouvel's tower.

 

[redden]

The quicker this is done the better, Federal Police may move into this (I think) freeing up 383 LaTrobe for Jean Nouvel's tower.

Yes, I keep forgetting that the AFP are moving here. Wouldn't 383 La Trobe be the cherry on the top. Maybe we could organise a working bee to help them finish 311 faster. How are you with a pick and shovel? The 1st photo is a bit deceptive. The excavation is deeper than it looks.

 

[redden]

Why have they created this concrete structure on the Spencer Street frontage? Support a gantry?

 

[Skyrise 85]

Thats a top down slab which will be used for loading initally then be excavated underneath later on once the structure comes up to ground

 

[HenryX]

There have been a few buildings recently that have used that technique. 35 Spring St comes to mind.