[ToastRack]

New £300m Manchester neighbourhood up for grabs

Plots next to Manchester’s AO Arena have been put up for sale with proposals for 1,100 homes

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Five towers | 1,100 units | up to 40 floors

• Pre-apps with council and very supportive
• plots could be split in two with two developers
• no detailed designs yet
• includes the site which had boring tripod on it

Welcome to Manchester...from the north!
Triangular plot (Dutton Street/Park Street)

From framework

 

[rolybling]

It's a start.

 

[Little Spoon]

Good good. I’m really looking forward to seeing how this whole area evolves and a few towers here gets the thumbs up. Couple that with more mid-rise in the mould of New Cross and the continuation of Central Manchester evolving in to a European city befitting of the size of Greater Manchester keeps going. I don’t know what point we would judge Manchester to be on the marathon regeneration journey it started in the mid-1990s, but this area is a significant marker along the way.

 

[ToastRack]

It will be interesting to see who buys this plot. The architects for the framework were SimpsonHaugh but I'm not sure who has done the pre-apps. And obviously the developer/s will bring in their own.

Whats everyones thoughts and what would people like to see?

 

[VDB]

There are some reasonably decent existing buildings on this site, including this one at the end of Dutton Street. Would be good to see a scheme which layers these into the proposal. Also buildings which define the street edges, not just random towers plonked throughout the site.

 

[welshinmanc]

If we’re seeing up to 40 floors, defo not simpsonhaugh if they decide to use glass. A collection of glass towers from DSQ to trinity islands to greengate and then this is too much. Something different please. Maybe it’s the year for a Tim Groom tower. Or some in the style of the gasworks proposal

 

[Little Spoon]

I think that because there is an established street pattern, buildings will be aligned to the street. I don’t mind there being more in the style of GJS or Trinity, as long as there is mid-rise in the style of New Cross too. I want there to be reason to go there if you don’t live there too, just as there is with Ancoats.

 

[ToastRack]

If we’re seeing up to 40 floors, defo not simpsonhaugh if they decide to use glass. A collection of glass towers from DSQ to trinity islands to greengate and then this is too much. Something different please. Maybe it’s the year for a Tim Groom tower. Or some in the style of the gasworks proposal

I agree. I hope something to tie in with the Victorian brick from Strangeways and the use of brick in the developments for Old Brewery Gardens (might have some news on that soon) and Clarion development. If it is SimpsonHaugh then brick towers are a must with a combination of colours. Something similar to Transition (in terms of colours). We know they can do them. We’ve seen them.

Obviously a Tim Groom cluster would be amazing. We’ll have to see.

 

[AB5493]

I'm hoping that there are some decent podiums with some nice brick detailing, something that prioritises public realm. Maybe even a CYCLOPS chucked in at the junction of Cheetham Hill Rd.

 

[jrb]

Wishful thinking I know, but I hope Tim Groom Architects design the lot.

 

[Little Spoon]

Wishful thinking I know, but I hope Tim Groom Architects design the lot.

I would love to see what a single architect & developer could do with a whole district, if given a large enough area and a blank sheet of paper. My mind wanders to Grainger Town in Newcastle, which is not far off the size of the area covered by this whole framework. I’m not suggesting repeating anything in the style of Grainger Town (as beautiful as it is), but creating a district with a uniformity of style with nice squares.

 

[JBGee]

I would love to see what a single architect & developer could do with a whole district.

Like Great Jackson Street and Middlewood Locks

 

[Little Spoon]

Like Great Jackson Street and Middlewood Locks

Oh those areas are small by comparison. Middlewood Locks and GJS are roughly 0.12 sq km and 0.08 sq km. This area is bigger than those combined, at 0.25 sq km.

 

[JBGee]

Oh those areas are small by comparison. Middlewood Locks and GJS are roughly 0.12 sq km and 0.08 sq km. This area is bigger than those combined, at 0.25 sq km.

Oh right...does that mean they're not 'districts' then

 

[Little Spoon]

Oh right...does that mean they're not 'districts' then

They are, but my original comment was in reference to a district of a significant size, like Grainger Town. GJS and Middlewood Locks are not on the same scale.

 

[ToastRack]

Not sure you could compare Newcastle to Manchester really...in terms of scale

 

[Little Spoon]

Not sure you could compare Newcastle to Manchester really...in terms of scale

I’m not.

 

[mileymc1]

I'm all for redevelopment on this corner but please, no regimental square or rectangular buildings. No rain screen, random clad or checkerboard! I want shapes, brickwork, diversity and character.

 

[tomsskyscrapercity]

Still not been to That’s Thai for cheap authentic Thai food. Best go before they knock it down and enjoy the people watching. Can be very entertaining round them parts.

 

[ToastRack]

Massing study submitted to council as part of app. Jon Matthews Architects
Charlie Schouten twitter.