WRONG. A lot of people did NOT say the same thing about Millenium Park.^^^A lot of people said the same thing about Millennium Park, yet now everyone loves it
Grant Park and other lakeside parks are meant to be open for the people, not development. That's what sets Chicago apart from other cities.WRONG. A lot of people did NOT say the same thing about Millenium Park.
That is another myth propagated by the Children's museum. Just like all of the lying about wide support, the busing in of "supporters," and the outright lying about cultural institutions and universities that support the museum. That lie-filled ad in the Tribune was the icing on the cake.
But then, once they've told a stack of lies, what's a few more?
I am going to give some more money to the lawsuit effort at savegrantpark.org
I grew up in Indinapolis going to and volunteering at that museum, and it is three miles from downtown. Three miles from Indy's equivalent of State/Madison is a helluva lot different than three miles in Chicago. Mass transit does not exist in Indy, so everyone drives cars. You can make the trip from monument circle to the Children's Museum in 6 minutes. In spread out Indianapolis terms, this is very close to downtown. If you talked to someone living 10 miles from downtown, they might even consider the Museum to be downtown.The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, the most visited in the country, is at 30th and Meridian, far from downtown, yet it still draws huge crowds.
This is an outrage. We'll see what the courts say, but the state of America's judiciary being what it is, it's certainly no slam dunk that the precedents in this matter will be upheld.
I agree. I walked by there the other day and was thinking to myself, where is the outrage for this field house and huge slab of concrete (ice rink) that currently covers the site? It is a complete waste of space. The park is already "lost" at this location, so why not improve it?The saddest part of the entire thing to me is that people are actually willing to waste $$ in court to try to prevent an underutilized ice rink and fieldhouse from becoming a Children's Museum. From all of the outrage, you'd think someone tried to open a brothel in the park.
DT, I have some questions that in all honesty I don't know the answers to from a legal standpoint, but I'm not sure it's entirely straightforward either. Let me start by saying I'm not trying to score points or win an argument here. I figure that if anyone knows the answers to my questions on this board, it is probably you.This is not a question of balance, between Daley Bi and a new museum, between green space and hardscape. It's a question of principle. Grant Park has a particular and utterly unique legal protection as "Public ground forever to remain vacant of buildings."
Perhaps the reason Mayor Daley failed his bar exam was that he didn't understand the difference between a balancing test and a settled matter of law.
thats true. I wish more people would visit there. The renovations they've done are amazing. I recommend it every chance I get.2. Think of the History Musuem of Chicago - not very many people go there (compared to other museums). Perhaps if it were downtown more people would visit.
Of course one has to realize that a local history museum is going to have limited appeal. I'd imagine tourists (which I assume make up a decent percentage of visitors to the other museums) aren't generally going to be interested in Chicago history.thats true. I wish more people would visit there. The renovations they've done are amazing. I recommend it every chance I get.