Chicago gets better in quality of life.

How many large, industrial cities are there in Canada; how much of Canada is made up of small cities, towns and rural areas? In terms of population numbers and density as well as major industries, does Canada exceed Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and Illinois combined? What are its ethnic demographics? Frinally, can these rankings ever accommodate the great differences among even the few variables they rely upon? Isn't there's something invidious about such comparisons? My ruminations only.

NWside said:

Get better from here? Gentrification is only pushing the problem away and probably "bettering" the life superficially for a small segment of the population. Schools, crime, (lack of) availability of consumer goods is still a big problem for many Chicagoans. Though it does seem to be getting better.

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Not for many Chicagoans. Since many of the neighborhoods do have good schools and do have safe streets. There are some exceptionally horrible neighborhoods where no one including the familes churches, buisnesses or alderman care....and I say to heck with them. Nice thing is that some of the people who have been using the "system" have lost alot of the perks here in Chicago so they are moving out to the burbs...where all the white flight people went! So Ironic!

We do need to tweak gentrification a little and make sure we preserve some local flavor. Tweak our codes to reinforce in "all" neighborhoods more diverse housing, business, economic levels.

Frumie said:

How many large, industrial cities are there in Canada; how much of Canada is made up of small cities, towns and rural areas? In terms of population numbers and density as well as major industries, does Canada exceed Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and Illinois combined? What are its ethnic demographics? Frinally, can these rankings ever accommodate the great differences among even the few variables they rely upon? Isn't there's something invidious about such comparisons? My ruminations only.

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I am not sure what you are trying to ask here. Canada is an industrialized nation, certainly. I think that Canada has about the same percent of it's population living in urban areas as the USA, though because of its lower population those cities will generally be smaller. Some Canadian cities like Toronto, for example, are quite diverse demographically. No these rankings cannot ever hope to accomodate all the variable necessary to give an objective ranking of quality of life, which is itself a very vague concept. Generally, there are no significant reasons that I can see that would explain why Canada has a much higher quality of life.

"Not for many Chicagoans. Since many of the neighborhoods do have good schools and do have safe streets. There are some exceptionally horrible neighborhoods where no one including the familes churches, buisnesses or alderman care....and I say to heck with them. Nice thing is that some of the people who have been using the "system" have lost alot of the perks here in Chicago so they are moving out to the burbs...where all the white flight people went! So Ironic!"

Wow, that managed not to make any sense at all.

ORDgasm said:

I am not sure what you are trying to ask here. Canada is an industrialized nation, certainly. I think that Canada has about the same percent of it's population living in urban areas as the USA, though because of its lower population those cities will generally be smaller. Some Canadian cities like Toronto, for example, are quite diverse demographically. No these rankings cannot ever hope to accomodate all the variable necessary to give an objective ranking of quality of life, which is itself a very vague concept. Generally, there are no significant reasons that I can see that would explain why Canada has a much higher quality of life.

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Thanks.

oshkeoto said:

"Not for many Chicagoans. Since many of the neighborhoods do have good schools and do have safe streets. There are some exceptionally horrible neighborhoods where no one including the familes churches, buisnesses or alderman care....and I say to heck with them. Nice thing is that some of the people who have been using the "system" have lost alot of the perks here in Chicago so they are moving out to the burbs...where all the white flight people went! So Ironic!"

Wow, that managed not to make any sense at all.

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Really.

1) Was countering NWSide saying "many".
2) There are some horrible neighborhoods in Chicago...not many horrible neighborhoods.
3) A huge reason for the existing horrible neighborhoods is not because of gentrification, rahter because of communities that have weak family structure, churches, businesses and aldermen.
4) And if you didn't read the 2000 Census or read any news articles about the effect of those on Social Services moving out of Chicago into the collar cities in Cook County...then I cannot help you out with my last point.