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1、明說是正常交費用戶可以免費領一個機頂盒,實際從你裝的那天起,每月要你補差價11元收視費。算到年底,機頂盒的費用廣西有線就算是差不多收回來了。但初裝是大聲宣揚的是免費的機頂盒,對每月要收差價隻字不頂,搞得很多人以為是明年才重新按標準收費,裝好後才後悔。典型請君入甕作法。

2、收費奇高,每月收26元,而以前模擬信號收費是15元,足足加了一半,經濟上難以承受,而且服務部還說隻是到今年年底的收費,明年還不知要收多少呢?明年要收30你也還得看。一個字“狠”。

3、強制性,反正我要在你這遍區轉數字電視,你不想裝也不行,我要停你模擬信號,又怕你反映強烈,給你留四個台吧,你就隻能收四個台,誰管你是不是正常交費用戶。反正你不裝,我給你的服務就只有四個台啦。每年還是收你15塊錢,看你換不換,不換的話,明年一個信號也不給你。一個字“惡”。

4、隻能一台電視機用,聽著,家裏人多,在客廳看,在臥室看,在廁所看的,一律給我停,隻準你們用一台電視機。每增加一台機每個月加收5元,還要自己出錢多買一台機頂盒,而且要在廣西有線買。所以,以前看模擬電視買了幾台電視的家庭,看來你們的電視機要雪藏了,一家人以後搶電視機看,呵呵,場面會很熱鬧,但搶多了傷感情啊。一句話“廣西有線很會算錢”。

5、你家的電視機的頻道算是費了,今後你看電視必須轉到AV方式看,以前編好那個頻道是那個台的老方法不管用啦。

6、今後你家電視機的遙控器隻負責開關電視機,其它什麼調台選台什麼的,靠邊站,隻能用機頂盒的遙控器一個一個台選,而且反映奇慢,偏一點你還遙控不了,用著用著有種想摔的感覺。看來損壞率會很高,到時壞了不知有沒有換啊,但有時又不能不用舊的電視機,比如轉換看DVD、調音量什麼的,看來有需要左右開弓,一邊拿一個遙控器才行。

7、機頂盒還不能全關電源,就算按遙控器的關機鍵也隻是在待機狀態,機頂盒的顯示屏還有數字顯示.如果直接關閉了電源,開機頂盒時你得等上好一陣子讓機頂盒的數據初始化。不再象以前電視機,一開就是信號。反正人家廣西有線的工程師說不要關掉電源,難道你不聽嗎?那就不關羅。但問題來了,到時機頂盒電源不關,又接著閉路線,萬一上班的時候,雨打雷什麼的,雷擊怎麼辦啊?如果實在是那樣,那是你倒霉,擊壞機頂盒不要緊,關鍵是機頂盒連著電視機,那就一個字“慘”。

機頂盒的抗幹擾能力非常差,才裝幾個小時,就出現好多次強烈的信號幹擾鋸齒邊。原來使用模擬資訊時怎麼沒有這種幹擾啊。

8、數字電視的節目真是我們的需要嗎?對你有用的內容太少了。你每晚在家關心政務公開嗎?你會用電視機看廣播節目嗎?你認為在家看股市資訊真的有和到證券公司那裏看一樣的及時嗎?你會每天晚上關注機票、車票、公車線路、南寧有多少家酒店、酒店怎麼收費,周邊那裏好玩嗎?這種東西是我們有時候要,但不是必要的。一般家裏上網都能查得到。因此,如果不是我們每個月都要看的內容,有必要作為我們每個月26元錢的服務內容嗎?感覺是在拿垃圾內容來充數。

9、最關心的是那些在外面租房的外來人員,你租的房子,看電視還需要裝個機頂盒,如果是房東裝,那房東還怕被偷呢,如果房東不裝,那你裝得起嗎?由於收視費太高,你想看每個月你的房租那就得漲。不過房東也委屈啊,租房給人家,肯定要給人家看電視,是吧。但一個房間你就必須得加上5元錢,如果你有五間房租出去,那加上你自己家用的電視,就要買五個機頂盒,一台100算,花上500元,每月要交收視費:26+5*5=51元,一年要交612元。費用高得嚇人啊,萬一壞了一台,那還不是算在租房者身上?這一下,那就連帶著租房價的提高,租房者的支出要加大,帶動了整個租房業的全面價格提升。很多人要流浪街頭。

10、透過機頂盒,數字電視的節目菜單可以象網頁一樣編輯,也就是你選節目的任意介面都可以加上廣告位,大家會在選節目時就被迫看這些廣告,給廣西有線帶來的卻是財源滾滾。由於壟斷的原因,廣西有線收廣告價位要多高都可以。

11、有很多人以為裝了機頂盒就可以想看什麼節目就看什麼節目的,那你就錯啦,節目還是那樣按時間播放,你不可能將後面的節目拿到現在看,隻能預約一下後面的節目,到時那個時間可以提醒你而已,這跟我們原來到時間就調台沒有太大的差別。

12、現在除了以前模擬信號的台外,其它什麼也沒有,看來你想看更多的電影,那等幾年後吧。

13、大家不要認為,裝上了數字電視,看電視就會清析很多,那就錯了,其實區別不大。

14、透過機頂盒,是可以實現資訊互動的,因此,有誰知道廣西有線不會透過在機頂盒的智能卡內設定程式,可以監控你在家裏看那個台的節目呢?那你的隱私就完全會被廣西有線所掌握了。因此,如果有成人頻道,建議你還是不要看的好^_^。如果廣西有線突然插播一個收費通知,可以直接換掉你正在看的節目,強制讓你看這個收費通知。

15、裝設時工程師說是增加了10多個台,一共61個台,但我算來算去也只有43 個台啊?怎麼回事?總不能將什麼股市資訊、廣西資訊、政務公開這些也算是一個台吧?如果是這樣的話,我“暈”。
 

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Over 30 million digital TV in China by 2008



A recently released report predicts that there will be over 30 million digital TV users in China in 2008.

The report says the number jumped from 67,000 in 2002 to 168,000 last year, and should hit over 1 million by the end of this year.

China will produce about six and a half million digital televisions this year and have gross sales of some 32 billion yuan, or 3.9 billion US dollars. The predicted numbers for 2008 are 20 million sets and 77 billion yuan.

China is developing digital video broadcast standards that are compatible with the European DVB-C standard, and now has two patented standards developed by Chinese institutions.
 

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2003年5月,国家广播电影电视总局发布了《我国有线电视向数字化过渡时间表》,这标志着我国有线数字电视工作开始正式展开。与国外相比,我国有线数字电视的推广工作相对较迟。目前,全国已有49个城市作为开展有线数字电视整体转换的试点,还有一批城市也在积极尝试有线数字电视新业务的开展。现已初具规模并积累了一定经验的有青岛、佛山、杭州、大连、太原等城市。
纵观全国各试点及其他城市进行有线数字电视整体转换的情况,大致可以粗分为两种模式:一是在地方政府的大力推动下进行数字电视整体转换,以青岛、佛山、杭州为典型。用户可以免费获赠一台基本型机顶盒,基本节目收视内容有50余套本地及国内的卫视频道,10余套数字广播节目和“阳光政务”等城市信息化内容。在价格政策方面,在实施整体转换后,制定了高于原有线模拟电视的收视维护费标准,且以终端为计费单位。另一种情况是不实行整体转换,而是依靠市场方式来推动,即主要通过销售数字付费节目来拓展用户。用户收看数字电视所需的费用由三部分组成,即:机顶盒的购置费用、原有线模拟电视的视听维护费和数字付费节目的收视费。为了降低数字电视进入家庭的门槛,加快扩大规模,一些运营商也采取了机顶盒赠送的方式。如上海,用户只需签订两年的数字电视服务协议,即可获赠一台机顶盒。与此同时,鉴于有线数字电视整体转换重装备、高投入的实际,全国许多城市都在积极进行有线数字电视价格体制、投资体制、管理体制等方面的改革探索与实践。
目前国内数字电视的资费情况大致为:青岛数字电视第一终端视听维护费为22元/月,同址加装第二终端为10元/月;佛山居民用户的第一终端17元/月,第二终端10元/月(同户同址,不超过2台);合肥用户需自购机顶盒,视听维护费为24元/月,同址分机9元/月;深圳用户需自购机顶盒,视听维护费28元/月,可收看40多套本地及国内的卫视频道,另提供25套付费频道,价格2元-50元不等;天津居民用户第一终端收费标准为20元/月,非居民用户每个终端收费标准为每月50元(均提供50套电视节目),免费赠送一个机顶盒,同址第二、第三终端收费标准为6元/月,第四终端及以上按第一终端标准执行。
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If you ask me, you are flogging a dead horse.

Everyone will be using Digital TV in Ten Year's time. Only very silly people are buying cheap TV's now, which won't work in a few year's time.

There will only be a digital signal ...

Take it from Me.
 

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I'm pretty sure the Netherlands have switched off analogue tv signals now - or are soon going to. The UK is phasing out analogue and will be completely gone in 2012.

Curriously I've just finished watching a documentary about a Chinese event in 1989 on my computer, through a digital tv tuner that's HDTV ready plugged in via USB purchased just last week - one monitor is SSC one TV. (Not a documentary that would be able to be shown in China by the way)

I have recently discovered also that a paper I wrote at university about a certain form of wireless technology was quoted by at least one chinese paper. It found it on the wonder of google! a load of chinese charactors - then my name in Roman lettering.
 

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The German government forces us to use digital TV as well. I am not sure when this will happen (maybe 2010), but I read an article about this.

Yeah, someone should call amnesty international! :D
 

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it's interesting to see how such thing can be implemented so quickly by the Chinese govt... i wonder how many poor Chinese holdholds will one day wake up to find that their old TVs don't have signals anymore.

Imagine try tell them about digital TV then....
 

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From what I've heard, plasma, DLP, and LCD HDTVs are so cheap in China that they're about as big of a purchase for an average urban Chinese family as they are for an average middle-class American family... not trivially cheap, but definitely not beyond the means of anyone who's remotely interested in buying one.

Which is good news to everyone already in HDTV-land who likes progressive-scan better than interlaced (yuck) video. All of the Chinese HDTV formats are progressive-scan, which means exactly one thing: in another year or two, 480p, 540p, and 720p camcorders will start to become VERY affordable... while Japanese 1080i camcorders are likely to still be expensive. Once the flood of 480p consumer-grade and 720p professional-grade cameras arrive, American cable channels like CNN and MTV will likely switch to HDTV too. CNN, in particular, is almost guaranteed to go progressive, if only because progressive video can be easily edited on a laptop... which is NOT the case for interlaced video (interlaced video that looks good on a laptop will look awful on a real TV, and interlaced video that looks awful on a laptop looks good on a real TV).

The whole digital switchover in the US is a stupid debacle. The fact is, if over the air NTSC broadcasts ended tomorrow, 95% of Americans wouldn't even notice because they have cable or satellite, whose boxes have been decoding digital video and outputting it on channel 3 as NTSC for at least the past decade (or, for more normal homes, via S-video, composite, YPrPb, or DVI/HDMI). Ironically, the one holdout group, accounting for most of the 5%, isn't even necessarily poor... just old, stubborn, and refuses to pay for cable or satellite. Unfortunately, stubborn old people have lots of political clout, and offering to give them a free ATSC decoder box won't make them happy because "they don't want to have to learn how those box-things work..." :weird:
 

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This is just socialism, hehe. Don't forget Chinese gov't forces millions of poor kids go to school, of course in many cases, free of charge.
 

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For god sake!! another China hater ... Thats happening everywhere anyway, where i live , britain, i'm also being 'forced' to use digital tv by 2007 when they switch analogue tv off. Stop posting such stupid forums that are irrelavant to SKYSCRAPER city!!!!
 

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Forgive my ignorance of communication tech, but what makes digital tv better than analog tv?
One of digital's biggest strengths (and weaknesses) is that, for the most part, it's "all or nothing"... and the level of quality control you need to get "all" is WAY lower than the level you need with analog. You can build a shoddy CD or DVD player with erratic motor, and it'll still play flawlessly, as long as it spins just a tiny bit faster than it needs to and has enough ram to buffer a few seconds. Think it's a coincidence that new CD players have huge RAM buffers? It's not a feature... it's a necessity. CD players made 20 years ago were precision devices, and most of 'em still work fine now. CD players made now are utter crap, and are almost guaranteed to literally break down mechanically or stop working right within 2 or 3 years.

To give a TV example... if you have a weak PAL or NTSC analog signal, you're going to get a fuzzy picture. If you have a weak 8VSB or COFDM/DVB digital signal carrying MPEG-encoded video streams, you'll either get a flawless picture, or nothing at all. In other words, you can beat up the digital signal before it ceases to be flawless, but once it starts to go... it goes badly. It's going to be a VERY big controversy in the US in another year or two, because 8VSB (the digital signal modulation scheme used by American HDTV) was optimized for long-range reception with good-quality antennas (ie, the usual broadcast TV scenario in the central US, where you have one huge city that's surrounded by thousands of square miles of sparsely-populated desert or farmland), at the expense of reception on portable devices without properly-grounded outdoor antennas and within moving vehicles. My prediction is that the FCC is going to end up having to take some of the radio spectrum that's supposed to be freed up by the digital changeover and dedicate it to simulcasting low-res video via a more robust method. Video-over-DAB would be sensible, since it's a perfectly good standard that already works and has cheap consumer gear available internationally... but the FCC has never, ever been known for being sensible and consumer-oriented about anything :(

The big, HUGE improvement with HDTV isn't so much the higher resolution as it is the introduction of progressive scan (progressive scan sends an entire frame of video 50 or 60 times per second; interlaced sends the odd lines during a single field lasting for 1/50th or 1/60th of a second, then sends the even lines during a single field lasting 1/50th or 1/60th of a second, then repeats. A "field" is a set of odd OR even scanlines from a single frame)

You can tell the difference between 480i60 (640x480 resolution, interlaced, 60 fields per second) and 480p60 (640x480 resolution, progressive, 60 frames per second on a 27" TV, across a smoky room, the day after having PRK laser surgery on your eyes (when your corneas are still painful, burned, and swollen). It's that big of a difference. Ditto for its PAL-ish equivalent, 540p50 (640 x 540, 50 progressive frames per second). The difference between 480p60 (US/NTSC-land) or 540p50 (Europe/PAL/SECAM-land) and "true" high-def modes (720p = 1280 x 720 at 50 or 60 progressive frames/sec... 1080i = 1920 x 1080 at 50 or 60 interlaced fields per second) isn't nearly as dramatic. In fact, on a CRT-type TV that's 35" or smaller, it's largely irrelevant, because the phosphor triads are so big that each triad gets shared by 2 or 3 horizontal pixels *anyway*.
 
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