and also the intense competition to get into university.
chinese leaving china because of horrible education system
Chinese are leaving China and many of them give the reason that they don't want their children to suffer the horrible education system of China. This is trend is observed among many young professionals who are recently married who have struggled their way through the gaokao and the burning midnight oil finishing homeworks during their primary tilll middle schools . Most don't see any real solution to this evolving trend and claim they can't watch their children going through this painful process which usurps their entire exsistence and would prefer to see them live happily.
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It is a serious evolving social problem in my view .Most expats who live in China face this really hard choice when it comes to childrens education .
The central government has ofcourse banned homeworks for children but still they join so called olympiad math classes .Which put immense pressure on teh students and force them to work like there is no end.
The central government has ofcourse banned homeworks for children but still they join so called olympiad math classes .Which put immense pressure on teh students and force them to work like there is no end.
Banned homework? I wish...
Anyway, the problem will resolve itself in a few decades as new universities open, probably within 20 years there will be enough universities to satisfy the demand; unfortunately for now, they can't build new ones fast enough.
Anyway, the problem will resolve itself in a few decades as new universities open, probably within 20 years there will be enough universities to satisfy the demand; unfortunately for now, they can't build new ones fast enough.
idk, but the kids in my school that lived their first 15 years of their lives in China are supersmart!! Im not sure if the eductation system is so bad there.
Whatever education system they have, if their kids can get into a topnotch college, good for them.
And China is also a terribly overpopulated country, some population exodus is not a bad thing.
And China is also a terribly overpopulated country, some population exodus is not a bad thing.
"Bad" is not the best description. It's more like "extremely painful for the students". Turning up at school at 8am, and finish at 11pm, just studying, memorizing, doing practice Qs 7 days a week is a horrible thing to happen to a child.idk, but the kids in my school that lived their first 15 years of their lives in China are supersmart!! Im not sure if the eductation system is so bad there.
They turn out extra extra extra smart thanks to the system. But I think fun and games are equally important to a person's childhood and adolescence.
^ agreed scion. i teach students in China, they are deeply dissatisfied with the education system and what it means for them and the effect it has on their lives. it makes me sad to see them lose out on so many of the parts of youth that are supposed to be fun. the system here stifles their creativity and doesn't give them much in the way of critical thinking skills. nevermind that many of the Chinese English teachers make mistakes on the tests that they pass on to the kids...
中国大学教育很失败。企业普遍反映毕业生根本没办法用,水平太差.
that's not the only reason.Chinese are leaving China and many of them give the reason that they don't want their children to suffer the horrible education system of China. This is trend is observed among many young professionals who are recently married who have struggled their way through the gaokao and the burning midnight oil finishing homeworks during their primary tilll middle schools . Most don't see any real solution to this evolving trend and claim they can't watch their children going through this painful process which usurps their entire exsistence and would prefer to see them live happily.
besides, they can have much high living standard in some other countries.
8am to 11pm school? I wish we had this system in Russia."Bad" is not the best description. It's more like "extremely painful for the students". Turning up at school at 8am, and finish at 11pm, just studying, memorizing, doing practice Qs 7 days a week is a horrible thing to happen to a child.
They turn out extra extra extra smart thanks to the system. But I think fun and games are equally important to a person's childhood and adolescence.
This better standard of living is overblown .New york is very crowded place the metros look ugly and feel far worse than anything in entire east asia probably .The traffic is extremely slow . Many places just have two lanes roads . Houses you live in are extremely small .God forbid if you decide to live in cheaper neighbourhoods. There is mugging everywhere during nights. To be honest i don't see any better standard of living. Though Chinese complain about their medical system wow get a blood test in U.S for 2100 USD then you will realise how bad there medical system is .I mean people save all lives reach 60 fall sick and one medical bill is enough to suck up your entire life saving of your entire family and maybe even push you into bankruptcy after working all life and ofcourse incase you get down in JFK OMG you will be in for a shock as you will wonder if you landed in a 3rd world country.that's not the only reason.
besides, they can have much high living standard in some other countries.
Anyway I honestly don't think there is a better standard of living as such . The main difference is ofcourse INCOME .YOU earn hell lot more in U,S and China still works a lot of low wages and soemtimes ridiculously low wages but that is ofcourse now changign with lot of people making lot of bucks.
OFcourse the standard of living thing is true if you are talking about cities in california say san jose san diego or say melbourne in Australia .It has more to do with space for themselves and comfort of an open environment .Which they clearly lack in an over populated nation like China but if you go across europe where you have many beautiful spacious towns like say heidelberg every young german will tell you he wants to move to New york. Nobody will tell you he wants to move to melbourne or move to san jose or cupertino california.
So i think it has more to do with money.
They really have to do something about their educaiton system .Students who are 11 years old going for special classes in math olympiads till 10 in the night is just ridiculous. Most of them won't even study math after school .So there is no point whatsoever to push down all this garbage down the students throats at this young age.
I now think that I enjoyed my experience during the pre-gaokao period. Of course, I didn't think in this way when I was young. Without those "painful" time, I'd have lived like a lazy pig that I would think it wasted my time.
I've heard that in Asia, life before university is hell, but after you get in, it's mostly just coasting along until you graduate. If this is true, I think it's kind of switched up because you are supposed to learn your real marketable skills in post-secondary so you shouldn't be taking it easy.
You're right, but middle and senior school knowledge is also very important. You can learn tons of things during six years. I learnt there all my knowledge about Biology, Chemistry and Physics etc that I'd have never got a chance to know it as well as in China.I've heard that in Asia, life before university is hell, but after you get in, it's mostly just coasting along until you graduate. If this is true, I think it's kind of switched up because you are supposed to learn your real marketable skills in post-secondary so you shouldn't be taking it easy.
I can say that In Korean and Japanese Universities, yes, the students work very little in undergrad. At the graduate level, then they become essentially "slaves" of a professor. Not sure about the situation in the other asian countries thus.I've heard that in Asia, life before university is hell, but after you get in, it's mostly just coasting along until you graduate. If this is true, I think it's kind of switched up because you are supposed to learn your real marketable skills in post-secondary so you shouldn't be taking it easy.
the same goes for China, I've ever heard that one of my seniors wrote a book for his tutor, deplorableI can say that In Korean and Japanese Universities, yes, the students work very little in undergrad. At the graduate level, then they become essentially "slaves" of a professor. Not sure about the situation in the other asian countries thus.
Well in my college a undergraduate sophomore friend of mine wrote an entire chapter for a lecturer and it was published by McGrawhill publication Which is quite big a publication house . Anyway even in U.S many profs kind of suck you up . Usually the asian professors in U.S screw your ass pretty well.
Yeah I heard that doing a PhD in some universities can be a risk due to the prof not letting you graduate (ie. he/she can't find a replacement to due all of his/her mule work).
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