City Buildings, Corporation Street.

b4mmy said:

There's a fair bit of this skybox stuff knocking around in proposals at the minute. I like em personally but I'm not a huge fan of this scheme, those renders make it look poorly considered, and insensitive. Has it got through planning like this?

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Don't know B4mmy. Might be worth looking at the MCC planning site.

I Like it.

b4mmy said:

There's a fair bit of this skybox stuff knocking around in proposals at the minute. I like em personally but I'm not a huge fan of this scheme, those renders make it look poorly considered, and insensitive. Has it got through planning like this?

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I'm not sure that I follow your insensitive line, P4mmy. I think the preservation of the nice sandstone building ensures that it's in keeping with the Co-op buildings and Vic Station, The lower glass bit ties in nicely with the Urbis and looks suitably modern and the top bit is quite radical and unique for Manchester and this area from what i've seen- so much so that I don't feel that it clashes with existing buildings and looks good enough not to degrade it's surroundings......imHo of course

GShutty said:

I'm not sure that I follow your insensitive line, P4mmy. I think the preservation of the nice sandstone building ensures that it's in keeping with the Co-op buildings and Vic Station, The lower glass bit ties in nicely with the Urbis and looks suitably modern and the top bit is quite radical and unique for Manchester and this area from what i've seen- so much so that I don't feel that it clashes with existing buildings and looks good enough not to degrade it's surroundings......imHo of course

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Got to agree with you GShutty. It certainly ties in with the surrounding buildings. Hopefully the redevelopment of Victoria Station will be just as daring?

GShutty said:

I'm not sure that I follow your insensitive line, P4mmy. I think the preservation of the nice sandstone building ensures that it's in keeping with the Co-op buildings and Vic Station, The lower glass bit ties in nicely with the Urbis and looks suitably modern and the top bit is quite radical and unique for Manchester and this area from what i've seen- so much so that I don't feel that it clashes with existing buildings and looks good enough not to degrade it's surroundings......imHo of course

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Well I'm prepared to put my reputation on the line, so I've just written to Maghull to see if I can talk em into something a bit better. Chances are these images were done in a hurry to get the application extended beyond April 2006 anyway.

b4mmy said:

Well I'm prepared to put my reputation on the line, so I've just written to Maghull to see if I can talk em into something a bit better. Chances are these images were done in a hurry to get the application extended beyond April 2006 anyway.

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Never one to miss a chance b4mmy.

The hard nosed business man.

jrb said:

Got to agree with you GShutty. It certainly ties in with the surrounding buildings. Hopefully the redevelopment of Victoria Station will be just as daring?

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B4mmy said:

Well I'm prepared to put my reputation on the line, so I've just written to Maghull to see if I can talk em into something a bit better. Chances are these images were done in a hurry to get the application extended beyond April 2006 anyway.

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JRB I reckon with the NQ, GQ and now Red Bank on one side and the ASK/Greengate proposal on the other that Vic Station's redevelopment is inevitable and if they're going to do it, I think there's a desire at MCC to see it done properly.

B4mmy, what are your particular objections and what would you propose? Be good to hear an inside opinion. I accept that the current proposal has essentially 3 elements to it- but personally feel that they work well together and with the existing surroundings.

I like the boxy top bit.

I like the curvey glassy bottom bit.

I like the old building.

But I don't think they work at all well together. It makes me think of Frankenstein's Monster, all badly stitched together from different bits. So it gets the UUUURGHHHH buzzer from me. No. I don't like it.
So I don't like it.

GShutty said:

B4mmy, what are your particular objections and what would you propose?

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Its this particular image that offends me the most: the one on the left



Nothing matches, and whats going on with this boxes. I would be staggered if this got built like this, there is no sympathy, no homogeny, no consideration, nearly no design, and its damned ugly. I know you're thinking that I might have accidentally absorbed some of Longshanks dna during a site-to-site transport but I haven't. I love shiny and new... but this is just plain bloody offensive. It just smacks of 'indicative proposal' and is a failed and desperate attempt at contemporary styling.

Has anyone seen my tricorder.

b4mmy said:

.... got mouths to feed jerb!

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B4mmy you could do me a favor, if and when you've got time?

I'm sure we'd all be very grateful. :wink2:

And I'm sure you won't mind?

Don't worry I'm not after a job or anything like that.

I'll PM you soon.