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status update?

Dear Ali,

Any news on this?
I was reading another thread about a Monorail in Colombo: did they give up on the metro idea completely?

Thanks!!

(about Monorail in Colombo: /showthread.php?t=1669421)

Rajasinha said:

I think outward expansion of the city is more appropriate solution rather than MRT inside a densely populated area like Singapore.

Singapore does not have the space, sri lanka has plenty of open space.

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outward expansion of the city :- this is one of the main reason we need a MRT. Yes now Colombo city limit is too small but MRT don't have to be limited to city limits. in fact it shout go throw in to suburbs and beyond to get the full potential.

Singapore is the size of western province. They open their first MRT in 1987 when the population was only 2.2 million people which is the same amount of people i believe now living in Colombo district.

Rajasinha said:

I think outward expansion of the city is more appropriate solution rather than MRT inside a densely populated area like Singapore.

Singapore does not have the space, sri lanka has plenty of open space.

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Thats dosent mean we hv to use more available space for human.we should protect environment too.MRT and monorail projects are under design stage .I would prefer MRT between BIA and CMB and suburb area and a monorail bitween Our administral capital and CMB with the combind of gov-privet sector .bt 1st of all they should electrify current railway system,stop corroption,more speed and on time arrival trains.

Sasi350 said:

outward expansion of the city :- this is one of the main reason we need a MRT. Yes now Colombo city limit is too small but MRT don't have to be limited to city limits. in fact it shout go throw in to suburbs and beyond to get the full potential.

Singapore is the size of western province. They open their first MRT in 1987 when the population was only 2.2 million people which is the same amount of people i believe now living in Colombo district.

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MRT is required to move mass number of people through congested and densely populated areas.

MRT is very efficient but it is not a good environment to live in, outward expansion and decentralization of services is more ideal. So people can make their own way using private transportation.

It's like a comparison between apartments and suburban house. Yes apartments are more efficient and housing the population and suburban housing is MUCH more resource intensive; however the reason why people choose to live in a house is because it offers a higher quality of living.

I've heard that the government is keen on putting up a Mono-Rail across Colombo and carrying out feasibility studies. I was thrilled till I get to hear their estimated minimum charge per person. it was freaking 500 bucks. Now I really don't know whether this is true or falls, but 500 per person is too much for a common man I guess if it comes to that...

Chinthaka said:

I've heard that the government is keen on putting up a Mono-Rail across Colombo and carrying out feasibility studies. I was thrilled till I get to hear their estimated minimum charge per person. it was freaking 500 bucks. Now I really don't know whether this is true or falls, but 500 per person is too much for a common man I guess if it comes to that...

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But this charge would be similar to a 3 wheeler charge. :lol:

Nuwan Malala said:

But this charge would be similar to a 3 wheeler charge. :lol:

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Ya...but I don't think a regular person would spend 500 bucks to travel on a daily basis.... if you sum it up and see, for 10 days it'll be 5000 and for 20 days it'll be 10k....and thats also a one way ticket...

you can easily get your self a vehicle with that money :lol:

Chinthaka said:

Ya...but I don't think a regular person would spend 500 bucks to travel on a daily basis.... if you sum it up and see, for 10 days it'll be 5000 and for 20 days it'll be 10k....and thats also a one way ticket...

you can easily get your self a vehicle with that money :lol:

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charge should be placed in between bus /rail fare and taxi fare.
some thing like charging 100 rs for first km 20 rs per each km
as singapore land transport authority formulate the fare.

Chinthaka said:

Ya...but I don't think a regular person would spend 500 bucks to travel on a daily basis.... if you sum it up and see, for 10 days it'll be 5000 and for 20 days it'll be 10k....and thats also a one way ticket...

you can easily get your self a vehicle with that money :lol:

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charge should be placed in between bus /rail fare and taxi fare.
some thing like charging 100 rs for first km 20 rs per each km
as singapore land transport authority formulate the fare.

We have to think about the cost guys, it will be very high to maintain such a big infrastructure and we simply can't afford them. We can't even maintain old buses, and earn profit out of that, how are we going to have a MRT and earn profit ? It will cost us few billion dollars to build them,millions of dollars to maintain the tracks, stations, trains and then you gotta pay employers, security and etc. In an average day we need at least a million passengers paying average of 300 rupees per ride to get to break even.

tig said:

We have to think about the cost guys, it will be very high to maintain such a big infrastructure and we simply can't afford them. We can't even maintain old buses, and earn profit out of that, how are we going to have a MRT and earn profit ? It will cost us few billion dollars to build them,millions of dollars to maintain the tracks, stations, trains and then you gotta pay employers, security and etc. In an average day we need at least a million passengers paying average of 300 rupees per ride to get to break even.

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you have a point there.
a paradand shift is very needed thing for the counrty.Now we are at the right junction and at right time.Basically Sri Lankan Are Wise In general we have been successful nation historically with a great Engineering marvels.
We can make it man.don't dishearten by the prevailing system.This will collapse soon and will be replaced by a vibrant system.as a country we need to build any thing for the future an effecient transit system is pivot point for all other developings.don't underestimate our potentials.

recent Ex- CKE,KME run and govern by a good system.Both are profit making.so MAss transit will be the same.

south asia first monorail become operational

After years of delays and overcoming many a operational hiccups, the country’s first Monorail finally made its debut with Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan inaugurating the service.
The commercial operations of the 8.9-km first phase connecting Wadala-Chembur stations on the northeastern fringe of the megalopolis commence on Sunday with the first train leaving the Wadala station at 7 AM.
The Rs 1,900-crore section is expected to ferry around two lakh passengers a month and will supplement the suburban conventional train network across the metropolis.
The Rs 3,000-crore project is being implemented in two phases. In the second phase the services will be extended to Sant Gadge Maharaj Chowk in south Mumbai.
The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) who owns and operates Monorail has fixed fares between Rs 5 and 11.
To begin with, the services will operate with four coaches having a combined carrying capacity of around 570 passengers at an interval of every 15 minute.
MMRDA has already spent Rs 1,900 crore of Rs 3,000 crore allocated for the project including on the civil work for the second phase.
The authority plans to extend the train to six coaches and scale up services frequency to at every nine minute and further to four minutes going forward with six coaches.
“…In fact the Mumbai Monorail is not just first in the country but across the subcontinent. Monorails are in operation in China, Japan, Singapore, Australia, Dubai, Europe, and the Americas”, the chief minister said.
The Monorail, a light rapid transport system, is set to change the way Mumbaikars travel as access to its air-conditioned coaches will be through smart-card tickets, lifts and escalators at overhead stations.
The service will be thrown open to public for regular commuting from Sunday.
The monorail is being executed by a consortium of engineering major L&T and Malaysian firm Scomi Engineering.
The service will reduce the travel time between Wadala and Chembur by almost half, from 40 minutes to nearly 21 minutes.
To a question on when the pending Metro project will see the light of the day, Chavan said, “we want the metro to start soon but there will be no compromise on security.”
“One of the projects


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If we are going to start monorail let private invester to do it.so there will be well managemant.or let it to be like SLT mobitel,gov+privet. to promote this transport method they cn put a price between bus and railway like 100 ruppess from battaramulla-fort.they cn run method low profit from one person more people.bcoz I dont like to spend 300 rupees from battaramulla to pettah which is 40 rupees by bus.most people like us,means middle class.and if it run by electracity it should be cheap.

monorail dream come true.

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Feb 21, 2014 (LBO) - Sri Lanka is likely to opt for a 1.3 billion US dollar monorail mass transit system with Japanese finance to cut traffic congestion and boost mobility in the capital Colombo, an official said.

A monorail system will cost about 55 to 57 million US dollar for a kilometre to build, Rohan Seneviratne additional secretary of Sri Lanka's urban development ministry told the LBR-LBO Chief Executive Forum in Colombo.
An underground metro is likely to cost 120 million US dollars or more and a standard mass rapid transit system about 80 to 90 million US dollars he said.

Monorail systems are typically narrower and run on an elevated track through the entire length, while light rail systems have two tracks and can easily transit between elevated and street level. Larger MRT systems run underground or at street level.

Seneviratne, who is in an inter-agency committee that is looking at a traffic masterplan for the metro Colombo region said a feasibility of the first stage is being studied.

It involves a line running from Malabe, Talahena, Robert Gunawarden Mawatha, National Hospital, Union Place, World Trade Centre, Colombo Fort and Kotahena.

A link is also planned from Kollupitiya to National Hospital.

A second stage will involve a line running from Kotahena to Kelaniya.

A multimodal hub in Colombo's Pettah area is likely to cost another 175 million US dollars.

Seneviratne said a traffic masterplan done by Oriental Consultants of Japan also included linking other modes of transport to the rail system including bus-rapid-transit (BRT) and existing broad-gauge railways.

The Japan International Co-operation Agency is willing to fund the first phase, he said.

The monorail is likely to take up to eight years to build with about three years of pre-construction work including design and five years for construction, Seneviratne said.

The government (tax payers) will have to bear the capital cost capital of building the line, he said.

It was also likely that passengers may not be able to pay the full operation and maintenance cost requiring a government subsidy, based on the purchasing power of the people, Seneviratne said.

A 'government' subsidy will have to be financed through other tax sources including foods consumed by people in rural regions who do not travel on the monorail.

A mass rapid transit system provides a high quality, air-conditioned and quick service with no traffic jams and can usually draw out people who travel by private car and taxi, reducing road congestion.

A traveller in Colombo usually pays 32 to 40 rupees a kilometer to use a three-wheeler taxi and around 50 to 60 rupees a kilometre for an air-conditioned car.

While tax payer financed capital is usually used for mass transit systems, Thailand's Tanayong property group (now BTS Group Holdings Plc) built an elevated 23.5 kilometre BTS Skytrain system with private financing through its subsidiary Bangkok Mass Transit System Public Company Limited.

Though the company ran into financial difficulties during the Asian financial crisis, it is run profitably. Its income is supplemented by advertising and property.

It has since been tasked with operating and maintaining additional 12 kilometres of line built by the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration as well as a BRT route.

Bangkok's underground Metro had state support for civil works but mechanical and engineering equipment was installed and is operated by a private firm.

Bangkok Metro Public Company Limited promoted by Ch Karnchang, a construction group, is still making operational losses but was cash positive by 2012.

Malaysia's high speed air-rail link KLIA Express, operated by Express Rail Link Sdn Bhd, is also private and self-financed with YTL group as the key shareholder.

Rajasinha said:

This is absolutely useless.

Better to get a metro.

Even better to focus on a road master plan.

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Rajasingha bro smthing is better than nothing.at current situation building a metro between Kotte and Colombo is a mess.it needs a lot of space.costly,and take time.bt monorail needs only a little space,cost is nt much as MRT.and it dont take much time as MRT to build.we cn transform fort-awissawella rail lineto MRT line before make new one

DhanujaKalhara said:

Rajasingha bro smthing is better than nothing.at current situation building a metro between Kotte and Colombo is a mess.it needs a lot of space.costly,and take time.bt monorail needs only a little space,cost is nt much as MRT.and it dont take much time as MRT to build.we cn transform fort-awissawella rail lineto MRT line before make new one

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KV line as MRT sounds good.