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dear friends i am starting a new thread here to voice for the sake of
of efficient public transport system to metro colombo since there no transparency on status of this very important project which is the only
solution for mad traffic we encounter in colombo..so my dear friend line up
for this project and create public awareness on this why iam telling this
anti lobbying for this project had been already begun by malicious elements..come on guys without this we cant achieve world class city
status.so please start debate on this subject..
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French biz delegation on urban infrastructure development in town
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Representatives from a 10-member business-delegation visited Colombo on 4 and 5 March. This business delegation comprised of French companies in the field of urban infrastructure, especially transport.
French companies present in India and Singapore were also represented during this mission. Participating French companies included Alstom Transport, Bouygues Batiment International, Dassault Systemes, DTP Terrassement, Egis International, Signes-Paysages, Systra, Veolia Transport RATP, Vinci Concession and Unibridge.
The main area of interest for the business-delegation was the modernisation of urban mass transport systems. The renovation/electrification of the urban rail network as well as improving road access was also discussed with the local authorities. During most discussions, financing under public-private partnerships was considered the best option and the participating French companies took note of the investment concepts put forward by their counterparts.
France has experienced a surge in urban public transport since the 1970s. First with the creation of metro lines in the largest cities, then with the launch of many modern tram networks in the Paris region and in medium-sized cities, and, more recently, with the creation of rapid transit bus lanes when heavy modes were not justified.
During their visit, the business delegation held meetings with the Mayor and the Municipal Commissioner of Colombo, with the Secretary to the Ministry of Highways, Ports and Shipping, with the Secretary to the Ministry of Transport and with the Secretary to the Ministry of Water Supply and Drainage.
This delegation was led by Jean-Paul Monchau, Ambassador of France in Sri Lanka and the Maldives.
City/Metropolitan & Airport Rapid Transportation for Greater Colombo - MRT | BRT | LRT | Monorail | Automated guideway transit (AGT)

Sri Lanka ‘Megapolis’ transport plan pits BRT against LRT
Jun 02, 2016 18:06 PM GMT+0530 | 0


ECONOMYNEXT – A preference for Light Rail Transit (LRT) over Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) in a plan to modernise public transport within a proposed ‘Megapolis’ covering the Sri Lankan capital Colombo and suburbs is being challenged by experts.

Western Region Megapolis Planning Project officials say light rail was chosen over bus rapid transit as it would be better able to cater to growing demand.

But critics say studies found BRT viable to cater to immediate demand growth and could easily be replaced with light rail in future.

The new government has proposed creating a megapolis in the Western Province, covering the Colombo, Gampaha and Kalutara districts to accommodate about 9.1 million people by 2035, with the Colombo as the core.

Dimantha De Silva, consultant and leader of the Western Region Megapolis Planning Project transport team, said they are taking an integrated approach, with transport and land use planning going together.

Light rail has been given priority over bus rapid transit in some parts of the city as it is more viable in meeting future requirements, he told a seminar on the transport component of the megapolis project held by Verité Research, a think-tank.

Previous transport plans had considered modes like monorail and LRT but gave priority for BRT as population densities in Colombo, and hence passenger loads, were not high enough to justify the costs of building and operating the former.

But De Silva, also a Senior Lecturer at the Department of Civil Engineering at the University of Moratuwa, said projected population densities and distribution had changed under the proposed megapolis plan which divides the city into zones for different economic activity.

Under the new megapolis proposal, BRT would be inadequate to meet future demand for transportation within the city and land acquisition costs to provide right of way also high, he said.

An LRT, selected over monorail, as monorail systems operate only overhead, while costs can be reduced with an LRT network at ground level, would be better able to meet growing traffic demand.

However, experts from the Moratuwa University and Road Development Authority, said bus rapid transit or BRT should not be ruled out especially since a proper feasibility had not yet been done on the light rail proposal.

They said modernising the bus service would be quicker and cheaper than building a more expensive light rail system.

T. Sivakumar, heads of the Department of Transport and Logistics Management in the Moratuwa University Faculty of Engineering, asked how if BRT was ruled out for not having right of way and land acquisition costs, the same difficulty did not arise with LRT.

Lalithasiri Gunaruwan, transport economist and Senior Lecturer in Economics at University of Colombo, said the country’s capital constraints should also be considered when planning transportation systems.

An LRT would be 10 times more costly than BRT and would need 10 times the ridership, he said.

Amal Kumarage, senior professor of the Moratuwa University’s Department of Transport & Logistics Management, said the problem was not merely one of BRT versus LRT but that the entire megapolis transport plan was inadequate and not professional.

There were “150-odd” BRTs operating around the world and the original proposal had shown that not only BRT, but bus priority lanes too were viable.

All transport corridors in and out of the city should have different and parallels modes of transport, built as a multi-modal network.

“By the time we do a feasibility study and start building (an LRT) on the road centre median which will disrupt traffic flow on 75 km of Colombo’s roads, Colombo would be dead and buried,” Kumarage said.

Road Development Authority (RDA) studies had found road widening and land acquisition is possible and even costed them for a BRT, he said.

Transport experts criticising the preference for LRT say they worry that megapolis planners are going for “supplier-driven” projects, without proper feasibility studies.

Hitachi Corporation and Taisei Corporation of Japan, which before China came along did more than any other country to modernise Sri Lanka’s port and airport infrastructure with aid and soft loans, have both expressed interest in a monorail in Colombo.
(COLOMBO, June 02 2016)
Yeah, keep challenging till 2035 when the dynamics have totally changed and it's time to come up with other proposals.:lol:
Sri Lanka ‘Megapolis’ transport plan pits BRT against LRT
Jun 02, 2016 18:06 PM GMT+0530 | 0


ECONOMYNEXT – A preference for Light Rail Transit (LRT) over Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) in a plan to modernise public transport within a proposed ‘Megapolis’ covering the Sri Lankan capital Colombo and suburbs is being challenged by experts.

Western Region Megapolis Planning Project officials say light rail was chosen over bus rapid transit as it would be better able to cater to growing demand.

But critics say studies found BRT viable to cater to immediate demand growth and could easily be replaced with light rail in future.

The new government has proposed creating a megapolis in the Western Province, covering the Colombo, Gampaha and Kalutara districts to accommodate about 9.1 million people by 2035, with the Colombo as the core.

Dimantha De Silva, consultant and leader of the Western Region Megapolis Planning Project transport team, said they are taking an integrated approach, with transport and land use planning going together.

Light rail has been given priority over bus rapid transit in some parts of the city as it is more viable in meeting future requirements, he told a seminar on the transport component of the megapolis project held by Verité Research, a think-tank.

Previous transport plans had considered modes like monorail and LRT but gave priority for BRT as population densities in Colombo, and hence passenger loads, were not high enough to justify the costs of building and operating the former.

But De Silva, also a Senior Lecturer at the Department of Civil Engineering at the University of Moratuwa, said projected population densities and distribution had changed under the proposed megapolis plan which divides the city into zones for different economic activity.

Under the new megapolis proposal, BRT would be inadequate to meet future demand for transportation within the city and land acquisition costs to provide right of way also high, he said.

An LRT, selected over monorail, as monorail systems operate only overhead, while costs can be reduced with an LRT network at ground level, would be better able to meet growing traffic demand.

However, experts from the Moratuwa University and Road Development Authority, said bus rapid transit or BRT should not be ruled out especially since a proper feasibility had not yet been done on the light rail proposal.

They said modernising the bus service would be quicker and cheaper than building a more expensive light rail system.

T. Sivakumar, heads of the Department of Transport and Logistics Management in the Moratuwa University Faculty of Engineering, asked how if BRT was ruled out for not having right of way and land acquisition costs, the same difficulty did not arise with LRT.

Lalithasiri Gunaruwan, transport economist and Senior Lecturer in Economics at University of Colombo, said the country’s capital constraints should also be considered when planning transportation systems.

An LRT would be 10 times more costly than BRT and would need 10 times the ridership, he said.

Amal Kumarage, senior professor of the Moratuwa University’s Department of Transport & Logistics Management, said the problem was not merely one of BRT versus LRT but that the entire megapolis transport plan was inadequate and not professional.

There were “150-odd” BRTs operating around the world and the original proposal had shown that not only BRT, but bus priority lanes too were viable.

All transport corridors in and out of the city should have different and parallels modes of transport, built as a multi-modal network.

“By the time we do a feasibility study and start building (an LRT) on the road centre median which will disrupt traffic flow on 75 km of Colombo’s roads, Colombo would be dead and buried,” Kumarage said.

Road Development Authority (RDA) studies had found road widening and land acquisition is possible and even costed them for a BRT, he said.

Transport experts criticising the preference for LRT say they worry that megapolis planners are going for “supplier-driven” projects, without proper feasibility studies.

Hitachi Corporation and Taisei Corporation of Japan, which before China came along did more than any other country to modernise Sri Lanka’s port and airport infrastructure with aid and soft loans, have both expressed interest in a monorail in Colombo.
(COLOMBO, June 02 2016)
If we want eliminate Indian scraps from Colombo we must go ahead with BRT, only country in the world where public transportation is mainly operating as SME is Sri Lanka, The Lobby is strong enough repell any modernization of Public Transportation.
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An MRT system for colombo city is a must and it has to be underground at least for the first 5KMs radius from within colombo city (FORT). With the growing population in colombo city traffic congestion is increasing day by day. If our government could somehow invest on something like this it would benefit for the future. I dont think elevated monorails or LRT would do much to reduce traffic congestion. just my personal opinion. This thread was started almost 5 years ago yet sad to see our politicians have done nothing regarding these issues.
According to the transport master plan, we won't begin construction of a metro until 2030, it says that it does not need until 2035.
An MRT system for colombo city is a must and it has to be underground at least for the first 5KMs radius from within colombo city (FORT). With the growing population in colombo city traffic congestion is increasing day by day. If our government could somehow invest on something like this it would benefit for the future. I dont think elevated monorails or LRT would do much to reduce traffic congestion. just my personal opinion. This thread was started almost 5 years ago yet sad to see our politicians have done nothing regarding these issues.
If we need an MRT in 2035 shouldn't the government at least allocate money to construct one at that time?
In Singapore they opened their first MRT line in 1987 which was only 6 Km. today in 2017 it has been expanded all over the country and the system length is 170 Km. They have this efficient public transportation system now because they started it 30 years ago.
As per the western region megapolis transportation plan 6 transport corridors linking to Colombo CBD have been identified which is roughly more than 100 km. If we are ever going to build an MRT it would be based on these lines. As Prime minister said regarding the megapolis plan they hope to create Colombo a Mega city by 2030 and one which is similar to other economic hubs such as Dubai, Singapore, Seoul and Tokyo. All those cities have an underground metro system. My personal opinion is that if we need it in 2035 starting to construct it in 2030 would not solve the issue. :(
Population of Colombo isn't enough for us to operate MRT and our citizens don't make enough money to travel on Metro either. We need 6 Million to 7 Million population and that to with at least 2 million passengers riding every day. The amount of money needed to maintain and build Metro is astronomical and we'll go into deeper debts. The cost of riding in Metro will be expensive and most won't be able to afford them. This is the same reason why Metro is a big failure even in much more congested and bigger cities like Bangalore, Chennai and hell even Mumbai. We'll never be able to afford them any time soon.

Elevated LRT will do fine. Trying to build them around Fort area will be a pain and ruin the aesthetic of the city but something must be done about it.
An MRT system for colombo city is a must and it has to be underground at least for the first 5KMs radius from within colombo city (FORT). With the growing population in colombo city traffic congestion is increasing day by day. If our government could somehow invest on something like this it would benefit for the future. I dont think elevated monorails or LRT would do much to reduce traffic congestion. just my personal opinion. This thread was started almost 5 years ago yet sad to see our politicians have done nothing regarding these issues.
Then I think it is better not to build an LRT. Because you're right, building it would be difficult and will create more traffic and elevated rail tracks running over colombo city........looks ugly. Instead we could save that for a future metro system. The population in colombo core area is expected to reach over 9 million plus the predicted passengers/tourists arriving to srilanka is around 30 million/ year by 2030. Also as per the 2013 ComTrans study the daily passenger flow at the CMC boundary for both directions was 1,961,866 (It is higher now) and it is expected to increase to 4,222,283 by 2035 (as per Megapolis study). With these numbers I think It is certain by 2035 we need a metro at least in colombo city. My urge is for our politicians to at least propose on it, to cater to the need for it in 2035. :D
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Just for your information the Chennai and Mumbai suburban systems were developed when the population of the cities were much smaller...Chennai was much smaller than what Colombo is today when services began
Population of Colombo isn't enough for us to operate MRT and our citizens don't make enough money to travel on Metro either. We need 6 Million to 7 Million population and that to with at least 2 million passengers riding every day. The amount of money needed to maintain and build Metro is astronomical and we'll go into deeper debts. The cost of riding in Metro will be expensive and most won't be able to afford them. This is the same reason why Metro is a big failure even in much more congested and bigger cities like Bangalore, Chennai and hell even Mumbai. We'll never be able to afford them any time soon.

Elevated LRT will do fine. Trying to build them around Fort area will be a pain and ruin the aesthetic of the city but something must be done about it.
Population of Colombo isn't enough for us to operate MRT and our citizens don't make enough money to travel on Metro either. We need 6 Million to 7 Million population and that to with at least 2 million passengers riding every day. The amount of money needed to maintain and build Metro is astronomical and we'll go into deeper debts. The cost of riding in Metro will be expensive and most won't be able to afford them. This is the same reason why Metro is a big failure even in much more congested and bigger cities like Bangalore, Chennai and hell even Mumbai. We'll never be able to afford them any time soon.

Elevated LRT will do fine. Trying to build them around Fort area will be a pain and ruin the aesthetic of the city but something must be done about it.
Just for your information the Chennai and Mumbai suburban systems were developed when the population of the cities were much smaller...Chennai was much smaller than what Colombo is today when services began

The Colombo Metropolitan area has a GDP of $48 billion (nominal) or $142 Billion (PPP), making it the most important aspect of the Sri Lankan economy. The per capita income of Colombo Metro area stood at US$8623 and purchasing power per capita of $25,117, making it one of the most prosperous regions in South Asia

Chennai's economy of US$58.6 billion PPP (US$17 billion nominal GDP, 2010)is rated as one of the largest city economies in India.
Per captia Chennai Tamil Nadu $1,870(nominal) $6,469(ppp)

As of 2014, Mumbai's GDP (PPP) was $150,853 million and per-capita (PPP) was $7,005
Last I heard ,the Colombo metro area contributes 25 percent to the sri Lankan economy ...not 60 percent as you have written .i think you are confusing ppp data with nominal data Anyways ,that is beside the point .lets assume the figures you say are true,then all the more reason Colombo needs an mass rapid train/metro Rail based urban transportation system...they've been in existence in Chennai and Mumbai for 50 years plus and they have been running successfully all along..i hope your government doesn't let go of this opportunity of making Colombo a world city in all the ways possible :)
The Colombo Metropolitan area has a GDP of $48 billion (nominal) or $142 Billion (PPP), making it the most important aspect of the Sri Lankan economy. The per capita income of Colombo Metro area stood at US$8623 and purchasing power per capita of $25,117, making it one of the most prosperous regions in South Asia

Chennai's economy of US$58.6 billion PPP (US$17 billion nominal GDP, 2010)is rated as one of the largest city economies in India.
Per captia Chennai Tamil Nadu $1,870(nominal) $6,469(ppp)

As of 2014, Mumbai's GDP (PPP) was $150,853 million and per-capita (PPP) was $7,005
This is the transport master plan for Colombo up to the year 2035

https://megapolis.gov.lk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Transport-MasterplanFinalNew-1.pdf

Page 38 has the information you're after.
Last I heard ,the Colombo metro area contributes 25 percent to the sri Lankan economy ...not 60 percent as you have written .i think you are confusing ppp data with nominal data Anyways ,that is beside the point .lets assume the figures you say are true,then all the more reason Colombo needs an mass rapid train/metro Rail based urban transportation system...they've been in existence in Chennai and Mumbai for 50 years plus and they have been running successfully all along..i hope your government doesn't let go of this opportunity of making Colombo a world city in all the ways possible :)
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We are mainly talking about building a Subway and Colombo's population isn't even 750,000. There is already a plan for suburban rail service and that will be built over ground. Colombo is a very small city compared to Chennai, Bangalore or Mumbai. Things aren't bad for the farmers as it is in India, there is no flock of immigrants coming to the city in large numbers. I heard one of the major Indian city's population went from 5 million to 10 million :lol:. Colombo will never grow to that size and there is no need for a subway service. Elevated LRT is enough as long as it connects to the suburban railway project lines which will be built over the land. This is the most feasible project that we can exercise. I have a feeling there will be several KMS of underground LRT due to lack space to build an elevated LRT line. That will be more expensive but should still preserve the aesthetics. But this also means the the riders will pay for it via higher ticker prices.
Just for your information the Chennai and Mumbai suburban systems were developed when the population of the cities were much smaller...Chennai was much smaller than what Colombo is today when services began
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Metro is not a failure in the above mentioned cities. Please don't make false claims. So far 16 Indian cities are building metros/subways and another dozen cities planning for it. By 2030, more than 30 Indian cities would have operational metro. If Metro is a big failure in Mumbai, Bangalore and Chennai which are some of the primary cities of India.. why would other cities even dare to build it?

You don't need 6-7 million population for Metro. All you require is vision and money to implement that vision into reality. Metro is a Public transport. Public transportation provides personal mobility and freedom for people from every walk of life. Better and Improved public transportation means better and improved lifestyle. Not only that, every $1 invested in public transportation generates approximately $4 in economic returns. Every $1 billion invested in public transportaiton supports and creates tens of thousands of jobs.

Population of Colombo isn't enough for us to operate MRT and our citizens don't make enough money to travel on Metro either. We need 6 Million to 7 Million population and that to with at least 2 million passengers riding every day. The amount of money needed to maintain and build Metro is astronomical and we'll go into deeper debts. The cost of riding in Metro will be expensive and most won't be able to afford them. This is the same reason why Metro is a big failure even in much more congested and bigger cities like Bangalore, Chennai and hell even Mumbai. We'll never be able to afford them any time soon.

Elevated LRT will do fine. Trying to build them around Fort area will be a pain and ruin the aesthetic of the city but something must be done about it.
Chennai's economy of US$58.6 billion PPP (US$17 billion nominal GDP, 2010)is rated as one of the largest city economies in India.
Per captia Chennai Tamil Nadu $1,870(nominal) $6,469(ppp)

As of 2014, Mumbai's GDP (PPP) was $150,853 million and per-capita (PPP) was $7,005
Those figures for Chennai are very outdated and in all probability incorrect. I don't have latest data for Chennai but Mumbai urban agglomeration's PPP GDP as of 2015(?) was appx. $368 billion and per capita income was $16,881. So I reckon Mumbai metro's GDP to be around $280-290 billion and PPP per capita income even higher.

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That's called Urbanisation. Almost every developed country on earth has 60-70-80 percent population living in Urban areas. India is still less than 40% urban. I am happy that more migrants are flocking to cities and urban areas... it's a sign of economic development.
Colombo is a very small city compared to Chennai, Bangalore or Mumbai. Things aren't bad for the farmers as it is in India, there is no flock of immigrants coming to the city in large numbers. I heard one of the major Indian city's population went from 5 million to 10 million .
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