another grade A office building in surabaya cbd and its 10 storey height, i cant rememeber the name ..
its own by Dhamala group,

^Wisma Dharmala... Well, Graha Pena is another office bldg but do not know the grade. Surabaya still lacks office buildings. That BRI Tower is built in the early 90s.
Sad that Jkt got almost all office bldgs... but imo Sby has the best skyline after Jkt compare to other big cities. What you think?

Here is Wisma Dharmala Surabaya website:

http://www.wismadharmalasurabaya.com/index.php

I know this building. A lot of office spaces there are empty because potential tenants don't like the weird floor configuration.

IMHO Surabaya deserves at least another real office building like Plaza BRI.

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^Wisma Dharmala...

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hey i dun know anything about this building grade thing...
can anyone tell me??

Weird floor configuration?? Is it because of the market demand for office is weak but floor configuration?? The rent is so cheap! could get US$11/square meter!

I know this building. A lot of office spaces there are empty because potential tenants don't like the weird floor configuration.

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IMHO Surabaya deserves at least another real office building like Plaza BRI.

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Surabaya needs several more... but not sure if there are demand??
I heard that the 'slums' surrounding the BRI Tower actually stand on the land belongs to government.. I'm not sure... but I'd like to see it gone replaced by hi-rise office building. Those 'slums' in the CBD is just an eye sore...

Here's the office building im talking about:

Graha Sa
http://graha-sa.com

True, demand for office in Surabaya is weak, but Wisma BII (at Jl Pemuda) has much better occupancy rate even though it's more expensive. Believe me, when you look for office space you dont' want inefficient floor, because in the end, you're paying for it.

Another reason for its unpopularity: the area around Dharmala is used as "Pasar Malam", so it can get pretty smelly in there.

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Weird floor configuration?? Is it because of the market demand for office is weak but floor configuration?? The rent is so cheap! could get US$11/square meter!

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When I was in Graha SA, I saw a lot of sick and disabled people in the lobby and in the elevator. I think it's because there are sinshe office or places selling herb medicines in there? I've got nothing against sick and disabled, but I felt like I was in a hospital. Or maybe I was there at the wrong time? Besides, location is a little off, since Gubeng is not exactly Basuki Rahmat.

AsIaBoYz said:

Here's the office building im talking about:

Graha Sa
http://graha-sa.com

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AsiaBoyz, that Graha-SA is also own by Dharmala? Hmm...

firmanhadi, where you live? you seems to know about that Pasar Malam. True.. but I think that Pasar has to be moved. It suppose not to be there, in the middle of the city.

The area in Urip Simoharjo and Embong Malang seriously needs fixing. The alleys and slums and dirty wet market should be moved out... and that is the problem...

^^ hehe .. my mistake

one of the reason why the demand of surabaya office building is low because there arent many foreign companies in Surabaya compare to jakarta.

I live in Chicago. I used to make a lot of trips to Surabaya, so I know the "golden triangle" quite well.

You're right, that activity doesn't belong in the middle of CBD. I hope they clean up that area and the "premans" that protect it.

BTW, whatever happen to that empty lot at the corner of Pemuda and Yos Sudarso? I heard someone was going to build an office tower there.

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AsiaBoyz, that Graha-SA is also own by Dharmala? Hmm...

firmanhadi, where you live? you seems to know about that Pasar Malam. True.. but I think that Pasar has to be moved. It suppose not to be there, in the middle of the city.

The area in Urip Simoharjo and Embong Malang seriously needs fixing. The alleys and slums and dirty wet market should be moved out... and that is the problem...

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There is an empty land there, next to a school and post office. It's in Pemuda... Not sure if this what you mean. I met the person that own it. Exactly, it is his uncle that own it, along with the unfinished Holiday Inn Hotel next to Stand Chart building.

Well, I remember he told me that his uncle stop building Holiday Inn since the mayor wants more bribery money and plus the economic crisis so bad. So, not sure when they are going to continue or will build anything there...

There is probably an empty land close to the edge of Pemuda and Yos Sudarso.. not sure about that..

There are several empty lots, old buildings (including ex of Toko Nam) or unfinised projects during late of 1990's and has became an eyesores to the city.

interesting to see that you live in Chicago... I live in Vancouver...

my contribution only 2 pics




is it okay if i post my pics that i put on Surabaya threads into this threads?

as long as it surabaya pics u can put it here
post more if u like

encon said:

is it okay if i post my pics that i put on Surabaya threads into this threads?

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More Surabaya skyline

Darmo Trade Centre


Pakuwon Supermal

Wisma BII


Standard Chartered at night

Pahlawan Monument