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As long as the demands are for a new state with all its districts from within TN, there is SOME probability of this happening. Even for this, there is no clamor at the moment.
The moment we start talking abt KA, KL, i see no real possibility. Language will become a major issue and we would be shooting ourselves on the foot if we set our foot that far into other states :).. just my 2 cents
 

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Rather than protest for a state, wait for 8 months and vote NOTA in the 2016 elections....I know NOTA cannot come as majority but if the percentage of nota increases, the the govt. will wake up
NOTA won't make any difference even if a considerable percentage of NOTA is polled. Rail rokos, bandh, agitations, etc will work. Rail rokos, bandh, agitations which happened for the creation of Salem railway division is a classic example.

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It's strange that people don’t want a new district to be created out of the highly populated Coimbatore district, but want a new state for Kongu region discussing in 'Coimbatore District - Bifurcation' thread.
Creation of a new state have complex procedures and it needs a lot of political will by the Central and state governments. Vidharba and Gorkhaland statehood demands are the classic examples.The struggle for Telangana started in 1950s.
 

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Yes, I would support Kongu Nadu if it contains the following:

TN: Krishnagiri Dt, Dharmapuri Dt, Salem Dt, Erode Dt, Coimbatore Dt, Nilgiris Dt, Tiruppur Dt, Namakkal Dt, Karur Dt, Dindigual Dt and annex the eastern ghats to the adjacent Kongu districts i.,e Kolli Hill, Pachai Hills, Kalrayan Hills & Javadi Hills should completely come under Kongu dts.

KL: Idukki Dt, Wayanad Dt, Higher elevation of Pathanamthitta and Palakkad Dts.

KA: Coorg Dt, Forest & Hilly areas of Mysore & Chamrajanagar Dts that border Kongu areas.

So that the new state will have a distinct geographical identity and not just a mere political state. The state will be a large in size with rich wild life on the hills and industries on the plains.
This demand is ok but if it is only TN districts then there will be a chance for this but inclusion of districts from KL and KA is doubtful becoz those people and govts wont allow it i guess
 

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Fulfil Kongu region’s demands: KMDK

Kongunadu Makkal Desiya Katchi (KMDK) has urged the State Government to fulfil the needs of the Kongu region.

Speaking at the Coimbatore District Conference held in the city on Sunday, the party’s General Secretary E.R. Eswaran said that the political parties were not paying attention to the grievances of the farmers.

Likewise, the State Government had failed to address the problems in textile, pump manufacturing, foundries and other industries in Coimbatore. The result was that industrialists were migrating to other States that gave incentives for setting up of factories.

While the party welcomed the State Government’s move to hold a global investors’ meet, it wanted the Government to look at the problems in the industries here faced.

Mr. Eswaran wanted the Government to explore the possibility of bifurcating the district by forming a new district with Pollachi as district head quarters. He also wanted the Government to leave it to the people to fulfil the Avinashi-Athikadavu drinking water supply scheme. His other demand was to improve the law and order situation in the district.

To the partymen, he said that the given the potential to send around 50 MLAs to the Tamil Nadu Assembly, they should work hard to strengthen the party.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Coimbatore/fulfil-kongu-regions-demands-kmdk/article7696364.ece
 

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Heard from the unofficial sources, that the state government is planning to create a new district with Pollachi as head quarters. Pollachi government hospital was made (few months ago) as District head quarter hospital. This could be the first step in creating a new district. Note: Not all the district head quarter hospital in TN is not a district capital.
Also, plan is to create 'Anaimalai' taluk.

This is very good news for Pollachi & Coimbatore region if it materializes.

Benefits:

More fund / importance from government to the Pollachi region. If Pollachi remains in CBE district, the fund allocated by the government to the district will be used by Coimbatore, Mettupalayam, Annur and Pollachi regions. Obviously, lion's share of the fund will be used by the Coimbatore city. If there is new Pollachi district, the fund will be allocated for CBE and POY districts seperately. More money, more development works. Win - win for Coimbatore and Pollachi.
Udumalpet region will also be included in the POY district. So, the above mentioned benefits for CBE is also applicable to Tiruppur


Pollachi will have all the government offices needed for a district head quarters. People from Pollachi, Anaimalai, Kottur, Valparai (104 Kms from Coimbatore), etc. don't need to travel to Coimbatore for government related works like applying passport, etc..

Infrastructure of Pollachi (like bridges, bye pass roads, new government medical / arts / engineering colleges, etc) gets improved which in turn will help the Pollachi region.

More fund / importance from government to the Pollachi region. If Pollachi remains in CBE district, the fund allocated by the government to the district will be used by Coimbatore, Mettupalayam, Annur and Pollachi regions. Obviously, lion's share of the fund will be used by the Coimbatore city. If there is new Pollachi district, the fund will be allocated for CBE and POY districts seperately. More money, more development works. Win - win for Coimbatore and Pollachi.

If POY district is formed, CBE district administration can concentrate more on the Coimbatore city requirements / developments.

There will be lot more benefits to CBE and POY regions due to the new Pollachi district.

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as per 2011 statistics population of CBE district is 3.458 Million. Population of CBE urban agglomeration is 2,151,466.(62.2%) Difference is 1.307 million.(37.7)

http://censusindia.gov.in/2011-prov-results/paper2/data_files/India2/Table_3_PR_UA_Citiees_1Lakh_and_Above.pdf

Population of Pollachi Urban agglomeration is 135,333.(3.9%).

http://www.census2011.co.in/census/metropolitan/460-pollachi.html

What are the areas that you suggest for forming new district with Pollachi as Head Quarters? What could be the possible population of the new district?
 

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as per 2011 statistics population of CBE district is 3.458 Million. Population of CBE urban agglomeration is 2,151,466.(62.2%) Difference is 1.307 million.(37.7)

http://censusindia.gov.in/2011-prov-results/paper2/data_files/India2/Table_3_PR_UA_Citiees_1Lakh_and_Above.pdf

Population of Pollachi Urban agglomeration is 135,333.(3.9%).

http://www.census2011.co.in/census/metropolitan/460-pollachi.html

What are the areas that you suggest for forming new district with Pollachi as Head Quarters? What could be the possible population of the new district?

Pollachi district can be formed with these taluks..

1) Pollachi
2) Kinathukadavu
3) Valparai
4) Anaimalai (New taluk can be created)
5) Udumalaipettai (Present Tiruppur district)
6) Madathukulam (Present Tiruppur district)

The total population could be 11 to 13 Lakhs (As per 2011 census).


For your information, the population of Pollachi Urban agglomeration (UA) is more than the below 13 district capital towns UA population in TN. Total districts in TN is 32.

1) Pudukottai
2) Nagapattinam
3) Ariyalur
4) Dharmapuri
5) Krishnagiri
6) Perambalur
7) Ramanathapuram
8) Sivaganga / Sivagangai
9) Theni
10) Thiruvallur
11) Thiruvarur
12) Viluppuram
13) Virudhunagar

Source : http://www.census11.com/states/population/tamil_nadu
 

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In fact Coimbatore region should become a separate state for betterment.

Many cities which were less prominant than CBE have developed much more .Due to presence of Chennai, TN govt concentrates more there and give less priority to second big city. Pune already gone ahead of CBE. Vizag and Vijayawada are marching ahead.

Kongu state can be formed so that

High court, Metro train will come to CBE.

CBE-Delhi rajdhani will automatically come. Now even for CBE-Bangalore overnight train, there is a lot of struggle.

IIT,IIM and AIIMS will be set up in the Kongu region.

and Many more facilities
Wow, you need a separate state just for the sake of developing a city, seriously? Look at how Andhra Pradesh is struggling to get a capital. Not all states (the present ones) have IITs/IIMs/AIIMS, etc., So stop day-dreaming. Don't be over enthusiastic!

And, why compare CBE with Pune. Pune is a huge city and was never smaller than CBE anytime. FYI, in 1901, CBE was much smaller than Trichy, Madurai, Thanjavur, Kumbakonam, Salem, and Tirunelveli.
 

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Wow, you need a separate state just for the sake of developing a city, seriously? Look at how Andhra Pradesh is struggling to get a capital. Not all states (the present ones) have IITs/IIMs/AIIMS, etc., So stop day-dreaming. Don't be over enthusiastic!



And, why compare CBE with Pune. Pune is a huge city and was never smaller than CBE anytime. FYI, in 1901, CBE was much smaller than Trichy, Madurai, Thanjavur, Kumbakonam, Salem, and Tirunelveli.

We don't want IIT's and IIM's....nor do we want a separate state(which is never ever going to happen so no use speaking)....we just want something which is of high essence to CBE at present.
MRTS is first priority...as of now, only CBE needs it and the SG is least bothered.
 

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Wow, you need a separate state just for the sake of developing a city, seriously? Look at how Andhra Pradesh is struggling to get a capital. Not all states (the present ones) have IITs/IIMs/AIIMS, etc., So stop day-dreaming. Don't be over enthusiastic!

And, why compare CBE with Pune. Pune is a huge city and was never smaller than CBE anytime. FYI, in 1901, CBE was much smaller than Trichy, Madurai, Thanjavur, Kumbakonam, Salem, and Tirunelveli.
In 1901, Cbe never existed. Be happy Brother :lol::lol::lol::lol:

FYI, Coimbatore was placed along with Pune in 90's in terms of growth potential and next set of Metro cities of India. But look at Pune now, as you said its a huge city and Cbe is still the same competing with likes of Vizag & Vijayawada. All because of SG's apathy towards CBE growth. Had Cbe got 20% of what Maharashtra SG showed on Pune, Cbe would have been to next level and we will not crib for what Trichy gets now :nuts::nuts:
 

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CBE got shafted and has become Tier 3 city rather than staying as Tier 2 like Pune. Pune has got huge investments in IT, Auto and Manufacturing thanks to the MH state govt's largesse and interest.
 

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CBE got shafted and has become Tier 3 city rather than staying as Tier 2 like Pune. Pune has got huge investments in IT, Auto and Manufacturing thanks to the MH state govt's largesse and interest.

Who whoa whoa....Coimbatore is among the biggest tier 2's in the country.... And damn right you are we never received any investments from the SG but thankfully, this is a self made city. CBE has some great home based companies like pricol, Elgi, LMW, Shakti gears, etc. Which have become world leaders in some categories. They have gone on to take over foreign companies abroad itself and this I fell is something unique to CBE in India. Bosch has the "worlds" largest faculty outside Germany in CBE. No wonder demands are always for public sectors and not commercial. Pune can be treated almost like a tier 1 and it got pushed a lot to easy pressure on Mumbai. Unfortunately, TN SG is among the dumbest in the country and hence, the case.
 

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In 1901, Cbe never existed. Be happy Brother :lol::lol::lol::lol:

FYI, Coimbatore was placed along with Pune in 90's in terms of growth potential and next set of Metro cities of India. But look at Pune now, as you said its a huge city and Cbe is still the same competing with likes of Vizag & Vijayawada. All because of SG's apathy towards CBE growth. Had Cbe got 20% of what Maharashtra SG showed on Pune, Cbe would have been to next level and we will not crib for what Trichy gets now :nuts::nuts:
Regarding the size of coimbatore he might be concluded that because of town population of 1901, actually cbe is the city in TN have maximum no of suburbs , neighborhoods which are presently inside city limits but that time probably considered as separate small towns/villages which may not included in coimbatore's town population on that time that's why population figures are shows low.

And BC does he means only Trichy ?? i hope nowadays trichy is more disturbing others it seems.
 

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@Mani,

Don't take me wrong. I just mentioned Trichy for the SG's swiftness in carrying out projects. Hypothetically, if Cbe had received the much required push from TN govt., we would not be cribbing now when trichy's time has come for investments.

P.S. Comparison on a lighter vein
 

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Regarding the size of coimbatore he might be concluded that because of town population of 1901, actually cbe is the city in TN have maximum no of suburbs , neighborhoods which are presently inside city limits but that time probably considered as separate small towns/villages which may not included in coimbatore's town population on that time that's why population figures are shows low.

And BC does he means only Trichy ?? i hope nowadays trichy is more disturbing others it seems.
Mani, we are talking only on the present govt. in focussing only on trz. But every quote is taken in the wrong sense. I just read your post in trz thread. We don't take works like median and all as a project. It's totally negligible. We know say jn things like say the market shifting, clearance to project's, road expansions etc . And this is not just in with cbe. Intact Madurai suffers more than cbe and rightly they should speak more. I hope u understand
 

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Mani, we are talking only on the present govt. in focussing only on trz. But every quote is taken in the wrong sense. I just read your post in trz thread. We don't take works like median and all as a project. It's totally negligible. We know say jn things like say the market shifting, clearance to project's, road expansions etc . And this is not just in with cbe. Intact Madurai suffers more than cbe and rightly they should speak more. I hope u understand
i just conveyed since that is also one of the reason were people are thinking that . any way regarding madurai the way back almost the decades ago they got "Integrated Bus stand" ," integrated Market", Ring road .... those are all still dream for Trichy , so as per your view Trichy needs to wait until Madurai gets fulfilled. actually madurai have some other kind of issues some major since one of the oldest inhabited city in the world they should plan for probably "New Madurai" some 15- 20 years before also here from Trichy no one is saying that Govt. should not give anything to madurai or Cbe or salem or any other city.

similarly Trichy also area like woraiyur (Chola's capital) we cant change anything now .. if we want to change the infra then we need to demolish all the buildings .

as you said they are suffers and they should speak acceptable one but actually they suppose to speak and they should make noise when they lost their second position to third.

and pls understand from govt. if they implemented something for development will you say no ??
 

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In 1901, Cbe never existed. Be happy Brother :lol::lol::lol::lol:

FYI, Coimbatore was placed along with Pune in 90's in terms of growth potential and next set of Metro cities of India. But look at Pune now, as you said its a huge city and Cbe is still the same competing with likes of Vizag & Vijayawada. All because of SG's apathy towards CBE growth. Had Cbe got 20% of what Maharashtra SG showed on Pune, Cbe would have been to next level and we will not crib for what Trichy gets now :nuts::nuts:
BC - Every city will have their own golden period of govt focus. Trichy got some focus now and CBE was neglected most of the time.. But CBE is gifted with local talents (industrial culture) and infra (wider roads within city limit) which other cities don't have and not at all possible in near future. Only they can build in outskirts and govt is bringing in focus there..

For me (opinion differs) other than Infra issues we are far ahead of other TN cities and no need to crib.. We need to make politicians understand our pain politically and not intellectually as they don't have brain. Also in future we should elect the law makers sensibly and not emotionally.
 

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i just conveyed since that is also one of the reason were people are thinking that . any way regarding madurai the way back almost the decades ago they got "Integrated Bus stand" ," integrated Market", Ring road .... those are all still dream for Trichy , so as per your view Trichy needs to wait until Madurai gets fulfilled. actually madurai have some other kind of issues some major since one of the oldest inhabited city in the world they should plan for probably "New Madurai" some 15- 20 years before also here from Trichy no one is saying that Govt. should not give anything to madurai or Cbe or salem or any other city.



similarly Trichy also area like woraiyur (Chola's capital) we cant change anything now .. if we want to change the infra then we need to demolish all the buildings .



as you said they are suffers and they should speak acceptable one but actually they suppose to speak and they should make noise when they lost their second position to third.



and pls understand from govt. if they implemented something for development will you say no ??

The above mentioned is still a dream for CBE itself mani. Not just Trichy.

And we never received 1000's of crores from jnnurm. All we got was buses. That's it. Not one thing extra. It's not like we make a hullabaloo on everything but truth is this.
 

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BC - Every city will have their own golden period of govt focus. Trichy got some focus now and CBE was neglected most of the time.. But CBE is gifted with local talents (industrial culture) and infra (wider roads within city limit) which other cities don't have and not at all possible in near future. Only they can build in outskirts and govt is bringing in focus there..

For me (opinion differs) other than Infra issues we are far ahead of other TN cities and no need to crib.. We need to make politicians understand our pain politically and not intellectually as they don't have brain. Also in future we should elect the law makers sensibly and not emotionally.
yeah.. the city has to become "too important to fail" in the golden period that it gets attention.. else it will be forgotten soon.
Pune got that..it is now too important a city and all resources will be mobilized to ensure it runs smoothly.. same case with Bangalore..
Coimbatore is still not there
 
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