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Here is the article: http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/11/20/95301_news.html

But all they're going to do now is just make a cruise ship terminal at the exiting berth 10 and its going to cost $90 million, and TCC has to pay $20-30m, which they wouldn't have would they? They must be including some other facilities as part of the development - how could it cost that much to upgrade an existing berth and build a fancy shed? They don't have to do any reclamation or anything. Here is a map just to show where berth 10 is.

 

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This is the same government that just announced a pedestrian bridge over a road... At a cost of $9Million... Not surprised.

This all smells of distraction. Yesterday the metro, today a cruise terminal... Hmmm.... Something's not right.
 

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There were two articles relating to the cruise ship terminal at Berth 10 and related port development in the Bulletin this week:

State pushes for cruise terminal decision - 2nd June 2010

Vision for Townsville port altered - 3rd June 2010

First is about the economic benefits of the half arsed cruise ship terminal, and calling for TCC to commit funds. The second article is interesting cause it claims that the state government wants to convert Breakwater Island into a container terminal (they must mean the Saltwater site - Jupiters isn't going anywhere is it??) and that Ross Creek is going to be diverted in front of Jupiters!!! Which seems like a pretty ludicrous idea - it would have to involve building a new shipping channel pretty much in front of The Strand and have ships making a very tight turn into most of the existing berths, and bring shipping into direct contact with the public. So I must have misinterpreted, but question is, where is this report? On the Port of Townsville website is a Port Development Plan released 1st June 2010 which mentions none of the above. Here is the long term masterplan from that report:

 

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be afraid guys... This is a scan of the paper copy of the bully:



What are the State Government thinking? Why is this cruise ship terminal continually being hitched to other bizarre development schemes? And what happened to the port's masterplaning?
 

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I cant understand why Townsville City Council is refusing to part with $30m in a 3-way split to fund the cruise ship terminal when Cairns and Moreton Shires have worked closely with the state gvt. The argument of it is a state asset is very lame when there are big benefits to reap after a decade or so as the project will more than likely pay for itself. I think Townsville needs to stop playing the "its not our responsbility" card and start meeting the gvt half way cos you cant expect the gvt to pay for everything wholly. If the council feels that the $30m offer is too high then why dont they reduce the size and cope of the project?
 

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^^ I can sorta understand the councils position, cause port infrastructure shouldn't be the kind of thing that is the responsibility of a local council, certainly not to the tune of $30million. TCC should (and would), make a smaller contribution, but $30million is a lot of money for a small town. Maybe they would be able to throw that much money at it if they weren't contributing $21.5million to the cost of putting Townsville's CBD back several decades by tearing up Flinders Mall.

And remember they already did "reduce the size and cope of the project" - this is just to upgrade the existing Berth 10. All the previous proposals involving private sector funding have been scrapped. I'm getting sick of TCC putting up, or being asked to put of massive amounts of money for half-arsed and ill-conceived developments where we should be expecting a much better outcome.

Here are the two recent articles on the issue:
Cruise ships hit a snag - 27th July
New centre threatened - 28th July
 

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OMG Port of Townsville looks massive - must be bigger than Perth and Adelaide ports - from looking at comparative aerial photos. Townsville craps on them ??
 

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The Council is no doubt struggling just to stay out of bankruptcy, let alone fund a bloody large state government owned asset. As a rate payer I believe it's the last thing they should be worrying about.

Also with Oriolus regarding the mall, currently already paying for one dumb project why do we need another?
 

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sorry, ive tried to read through the posts, bit confusing with various renders, can someone in a nutshell tell me where this plan is at
The Ocean Terminal Project was redesigned countless times over the course of about four years but now the whole thing is scrapped...all the reclamation, apartments, canal houses, parklands, marina, and attatched cruise ship terminal - its all totally scrapped, because the developer went into receivership. Nothing is going to happen on the duck pond - the only plan now is for the exisiting Berth 10 (see map in post #245) to be turned into a cruise ship terminal, but even that isn't going to happen in the foreseeable future.
 

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Cruise terminal work to start soon

TONY RAGGATT | October 14th, 2010

THE Townsville port is set to be the focus of almost $200 million worth of development.

Work is progressing on a $110 million Townsville Marine Precinct and work will begin shortly on a $75 million cruise ship terminal.

Premier Anna Bligh inspected work on the marine precinct yesterday.

She foreshadowed a start to work next month on the cruise terminal and was prepared to let bygones be bygones in the government's spat with Mayor Les Tyrell over the level of Townsville City Council's contribution.

"We are going to focus on getting this (cruise terminal) project done. I'm not interested in more arguments with the Townsville City Council over the cruise ship terminal," Ms Bligh said.

The council had rejected a government proposal for a one-third contribution and will provide about $5 million towards roadworks.

The remainder of the cost will be funded by the state and federal governments.

The State Government is investing $110 million to build the first stage of the marine precinct at Townsville port as a site for marine industries displaced from Ross River by construction of the port access road and bridge.

Land freed up in Ross River by the move of businesses such as Rosshaven Marine will be used to construct 12 new public boat ramps.

The marine precinct, funded jointly by the State Government and its entity, Port of Townsville Ltd, is being built by construction giant Laing O'Rourke.

About 100 people are working on the precinct which will provide a marina and commercial land near the mouth of Ross River.

"This is a big vote of confidence in Townsville and its future," Ms Bligh said.

"It is because we believe in the growing economy of Townsville and what it means to the whole state economy that we are investing money like that into this new facility."

Ms Bligh undertook to provide a "fair" rent system for businesses.

There has been concern new facilities will be too expensive.

"We'll have to negotiate rent, but we'll be looking to a fair rent system to make sure these are strong businesses," Ms Bligh said.

The first businesses are expected to move on to the new site by mid-2011.- TONY RAGGATT
 

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Big news:

Lol, thought i'd seen this headline before somewhere......
Out of this world
NATALIE WYNNE | June 25th, 2011


THIS is the first image of how Townsville's $85 million cruise ship terminal will look when completed in two years.

The project involves the reconstruction and extension of the Port of Townsville's existing Berth 10 to accommodate military, cruise, and commercial shipping and a multi-purpose passenger terminal building next to Ross Creek.

Four hundred jobs will be created during the construction phase. The Federal and State governments are funding the project after council refused. Townsville City Council yesterday unveiled its master plan for the inner city, aiming to attract 30,000 people into the CBD to live, work and play by 2035.

``We want investors to see the CBD in Townsville as a viable opportunity in the future,'' said Mayor Les Tyrell.

In an exclusive first look North Queenslanders are finally seeing the highly anticipated $85 million Townsville Cruise Terminal with the release of a series of artist's impressions of the project.

The project involves the reconstruction and extension of the Port of Townsville's existing Berth 10 to accommodate military, cruise, and commercial shipping and the construction of a multi-purpose passenger terminal building adjacent to Ross Creek.

Federal Treasurer Wayne Swan said the cruise terminal was a big win for Townsville.

``Townsville is an ambitious town that's always on the lookout for new opportunities to strengthen the local economy and this Cruise Ship Terminal is a perfect case in point,'' he said.

``Townsville really is a city on the rise and as a proud Queenslander I'm really excited about the economic opportunities that lie ahead for North Queensland.

``Not only will this facility allow Townsville to share a slice of the growing cruise industry but as a garrison city, it will enable the region to accommodate visiting military vessels with ease.''

Ports Minister and Thuringowa MP Craig Wallace said the cruise terminal was a big vote of confidence in the Townsville economy.

``Careful consideration has gone into this project's planning to ensure a striking, yet functional, terminal is produced to cater for the thousands of cruise passengers and naval personnel,'' he said.

``This facility will allow Townsville to accommodate the current and next generation of passenger and military vessels and position the city to take advantage of the growing cruise market now, and into the future.''

The State and Federal Government jointly funded project is due to begin in October and expected to be operational by mid-2013.

Port of Townsville Limited has provided funds for extra works to facilitate commercial ship operations while Townsville City Council has contributed $4.8 million to provide some connecting roads.

Seymour Whyte/Smithdhbridge is also set carry out a $33 million upgrade of the Port of Townsville's Berth 8 under the Port Inner Harbour Expansion contract.

Mr Wallace said up to 400 jobs would be created.

The Australian Government has contributed $30 million as part of the agreement to upgrade Berth 10 to support the introduction into service of the Royal Australian Navy's new Canberra class Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) vessels, the first of which is due for commission in early 2014.
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2011/06/25/242511_news.html
 

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I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to put it in, but hey.

Anyway I havent got any pictures but man there some big cranes out at the port that are apart of the construction of the new cruise ship terminal. Here are a couple renders of the project that'll do wonders for the city.



Townsville Inner Harbour Expansion

Intended to be gateway statement for the Port of Townsville, the proposed multi-use terminal on Ross Creek will be a highly memorable, breathtakingly audacious structure. Inspired by the idiom of industrial architecture, the building’s functions are encased in a large, fluid roof which wraps down to the west and frames the views to Magnetic Island.

The master planning strategy for the site considers the existing axes and industrial geometry present on the site – the land axis on which the bulk sugar sheds are orientated, the sea axis which locates the berths and the creek axis which creates the edge to the site.

Pedestrian and cycle connections from the Townsville CBD will conclude at the terminal therefore the emphasis is on functional, attractive and welcoming public realm with the building almost playing a secondary role to this function.​



Its a pretty breathtaking design by all means... judge for yourself!!





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It's interesting seeing the old design prior to whats being constructed now.






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That looks incredible! Will have to go for a drive down there soon to see all the construction going on! :D
 
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