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GREEN SQUARE TOWN CENTRE
GREEN SQUARE CONSORTIUM
960 BOURKE STREET/2 & 4 EBSWORTH STREET

Architect: FJMT

DA 2014/642

Location:


Tower: 28 levels & 97m (tbc)

View NE on Bourke Street from near intersection with Botany Road.

Midrise: 10 levels

View WNW on Ebsworth Street toward Bourke Street.

310 apartments
789m² retail
180 carpark
370 bike spaces
Cost: $142.7m

Status: Stage 2 DA being processed (?).
 

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Good info. All new projects appear to have these increasingly tiny apartments. Looking at the plans, the living rooms are minute, barely more than fat hallways.

The 3 bdrm apartments are averaging about half the area they had ten years ago but the asking price is well over $1m for the new ones in Green Square: Victoria Park & Divercity.

Value for money?

It will be interesting to see the price to area ratio in the other new projects at Infinity by Crown (GSTC) & Crown @ 18 O'Dea & 40AB O'Dea which should be coming on exhibition some time in the next few months. I suspect small areas and big bucks in all of them.
 

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The model & pix courtesy of CULWULLA


View SE from above George Street, Waterloo.
The dark grey complex is the Stage 1 design for Infinity by Crown, now replaced by Koichi Takada's sensational design.
The pale grey building on the left of the tower is 6 Ebsworth Street.


View SW from above Zetland.
Notice how many more towers are potentially to follow.


View SE along George Street, Waterloo.
On left, grey buildings are Tribeca at 40 McEvoy Street [now under construction]; on the right, coloured red, is George&Allen, corner of George and Allen streets.


View north.
The red complex in the upper right corner is Emerald Park on O'Dea & Joynton avenues; the two buildings shown are now completed and occupied.
 

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DA lodged for display unit for 960 Bourke & 6 Ebsworth Street on corner of Bourke & Portman streets.
Sounds like they mean to make a move reasonably soon.
 

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...and here it is:

Application Number D/2014/795

Location:
956-960 Bourke Street ZETLAND NSW 2017


Description:

The proposed development relates to a portion of 956-960 Bourke Street at the corner of Bourke Street, Portman Street and Navins Lane. The proposal is for the construction of a temporary sales and display centre for marketing of new apartments in the Green Square Town Centre.
The temporary sales and display use is proposed for a period of between 4 weeks and 12 weeks. After that time, the structures will be dismantled. The proposed structures are two inflatable sales office buildings, timber decking for pedestrian circulation and new landscaping.
The proposed hours of operation are 7.00am to 6.00pm Monday to Sunday.
Car parking for 11 vehicles is proposed off Bourke Street.

Estimated Cost of Work:
$483,934.00

Another step forward BUT still no action on the infrastructure that I can see.
Applicant:
GREEN SQUARE CONSORTIUM PTY LTD
 

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Good info. All new projects appear to have these increasingly tiny apartments. Looking at the plans, the living rooms are minute, barely more than fat hallways.

The 3 bdrm apartments are averaging about half the area they had ten years ago but the asking price is well over $1m for the new ones in Green Square: Victoria Park & Divercity.

Value for money?

It will be interesting to see the price to area ratio in the other new projects at Infinity by Crown (GSTC) & Crown @ 18 O'Dea & 40AB O'Dea which should be coming on exhibition some time in the next few months. I suspect small areas and big bucks in all of them.
It is limited market. Short supply, reasonably high demand.
 

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A key point is also the purchase price of a site; to cover costs & make a profit the developer must try to extract the greatest number of units for the highest price the market will bear. See Meriton's estimates of prices for its future units on its site at 84-92 Epsom Road, Zetland, after it paid a record price for it.

I haven't been able to find out whether some of the sites recently on the market have sold or not: 44-48 O'Dea Avenue, Waterloo*, 52 O'Dea Avenue, Waterloo, 892 Bourke Street, 'Waterloo' (Zetland!) & 106-116 Epsom Road, Zetland. If they have not sold, buyers may be resisting phenomenal price demands; if they have sold, at what price?

* SOLD to Mirvac
 

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really? it aint yet approved. must be confident. i thought Crown would go up before this since they had da approval for a while.they need to site prep and get some roads going
 

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One way or another the buildings in their current or modified form, will gain approval.
The buildings sit between Bourke Street and the site of 6 Ebsworth Street which is approved, so sometime this year the 2 projects plus the display centre which all adjoin, will have to have hoarding up. Ebsworth Street will need to be constructed from Bourke Street.
 

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GREEN SQUARE TOWN CENTRE
GREEN SQUARE CONSORTIUM
960 BOURKE STREET/2 & 4 EBSWORTH STREET

Architect: FJMT

DA 2014/642

Location:

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In my understanding that Site 6 on your first picture is infinity by CROWN site right?

if it is, then the 28 levels building is really close to Crown.




and anyone knows what size of retails will be in green square town centre?

is it like retails building with cinema, kmart, coles etc.. just like westfield

or just retails for maybe some residential's ground floor ?
 

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DA for 960 BOURKE STREET is expected to be on the agenda for council and CSPC meetings in October according to council documents.

956-960 Bourke Street, the site also having frontage to Bourke Street & Portman Street/Lane & Navins Lane. However, the proposed development relates to the aprt of the site facing Bourke Street, Portman Lane and the future Ebsworth Street and Tweed Place.
The proposal is for a mixed use development containing 789m² of retail spaces at ground floor and 310 apartments in one 10 storey building and one 28 storey building.
It includes excavation of 3 basement levels designed to provide 180 car parking spaces and 370 (sic) bike parking spaces. Vehicle access is proposed from the future Tweed Place.
Two pedestrian links from Portman Lane are proposed - one to Ebsworth Street and one to Bourke Street.
Tree removal, new landscaping and public domain works are also proposed.
Approval is expected with the usual suite of provisions and conditions.


As revealed elsewhere, CofS is very slow processing DAs and this demonstrates this unhelpful situation.
 

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The DA for 960 Bourke Street was supposed to be on Council and CSPC agenda for October, but, clearly, it was not. This is disappointing but, sadly, not all that surprising.

There is no Council nor CSPC meetings in November but they are scheduled for the first week of December so maybe it will be dealt with and - fingers crossed - approved then.
No meetings in January probably.
 

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No, b/c Crown GS hasn't been lodged yet, though it will be soon. It must then go through the process that has taken most of this year for 960 Bourke to make its way through. Crown GS has no hope of being approved for many months yet.

The next one to watch, I suspect, is 511-515 Botany Road aka Hatbands Site on the future Sonny Leonard Street in the south end of the Town Centre adjoining Tosh Lane & Botany Road.
 
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