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THE real estate advertisement looks tempting: a stunning studio apartment with spectacular harbour views in the luxurious, almost new apartment block Beau Monde, in North Sydney.

Missing, however, is any mention that under a proposal to go before the local council tonight the Berry Street building may end up losing those glorious harbour views when two huge commercial towers are built directly in front of it - on land owned by the same developer, Eastmark Holdings.

While North Sydney Council says it is simply following State Government directions to increase commercial space in its CBD, many residents of the apartment block are outraged that they could be walled in by towering commercial buildings.

Under the council proposal to be considered tonight, the developer of the Beau Monde would potentially enjoy a huge windfall, as towers could be erected on the existing North Sydney Shopping World to take the total height of the complex to between 155 metres and 170 metres from its present 70 metres.

Only the penthouse apartments in Beau Monde would retain their dramatic panoramas.

Other residential buildings nearby would also be affected by the easing of height restrictions.

"The developer of our apartments would then be effectively obliterating all views from the building to the south," said Margaret McGowen, the chairwoman of Beau Monde's executive committee.

"We'd end up with a huge wall of skyscrapers all around us. It's quite amazing North Sydney Council is even considering this, especially when the area's already overbuilt and there's just been the report about the need for more open space for pedestrians in Sydney. Instead, we're getting higher buildings, more of them, and much more overshadowing."

Eastmark Holdings did not return the Herald's calls on Friday. The council's general manager, Penny Holloway, said the council would consider the amendment to the Local Environment Plan because of the State Government target of increasing commercial floor space in its CBD and the need for a larger, sustainable commercial core to provide jobs for locals.

"It's a question of development potential in that area, rather than being driven by individual property owners," she said. "There was never any intention for there not to be any more development on this site."

Meanwhile, Beau Monde residents have hired a planning specialist to help them argue their case that the proposed new building heights would create a congested, tall cluster of buildings in a very small area.
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"We are concerned that North Sydney Council has not adequately addressed the potential implications of development on such a large scale," Ms McGowen said.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/views-to-cry-for/2007/12/09/1197135289400.html

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It mentions 'towers'. So more than one!

It is located right in front of Bleu Monde....haha. OWNED!

 

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What kind of idiot buys an apartment surrounded by office towers and expects to never be built out?

Are the council actually considering DAs for new towers, or just an increase in the height limits?
 

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It says that the new proposal will be considered in Council tonight...so it must be the DA.
 

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"Many recent sales and lease deals have also reflected A-grade prices in non-core CBD locations. This trend is likely to continue in 2008 and will see a continued strengthening of other commercial markets such as North Sydney," Mr Hodge said.
Good news. A grade office blocks are in high demand!
 

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yeah, too bad, that's what happens when you buy apartments in the centre of a commercial cbd, especially now that there is so much pressure for office space with so little room that the only way is up!
 

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such hiprocrites in so called-Beau Monde's executive committee. what idiots, did they realise whn they bought there city pad, maybe oneday a new bldg may block there views?? be good to see 2x 500footers go up. add 60m to there heiughts and that would be there sea level heights.both well over 200m.

 

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I can see where they are comming from, imagine paying 1 million for an apartment just for the views of the city, then imagine it getting built out. But you would be stupid as hell to think that view is secured forever.

But i'm all for more highrises in North Sydney.
 

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How bright do you have to be to figure this one out? It's in the heart of a major CBD, ferchrissakes... Amazing how these people can make so much money and be able to afford such apartments but not smart enough to pick up on this sort of thing. Making money is a talent not necessarily associated with intelligence of other sorts, f'rinstance, the wallies in The Tower (Not Cheap!) objecting to Mid-City and Westfield, and even that small group high up in ESP (apts cost +/-$1m!)at Victoria Park objecting to a tower 100m+ away. Now we've got this lot...honestly!

On the other hand, I'm so smart I can't make a million or two?...
 

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I can see where they are comming from, imagine paying 1 million for an apartment just for the views of the city, then imagine it getting built out.

But i'm all for more highrises in North Sydney.
Of course... but when are people in Sydney going to realise that THERE IS NO GUARANTEE OF A VIEW. The law is not on their side. When you buy into a building you have to make very sure that the view you can see will never be changed in any way otherwise there's every possibility that it will be built out and there's nothing you can do about it. This one reason having an apartment on Hyde Park would be completely awesome.
 

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As I currently work in North Sydney, I often walk to Berry Square and when you look at it surrounded on all sides by towers, one can't help but think that sooner or later another tower will go in there.

North Sydney is a predominately Commercial area and an obvious location for more office blocks, I don't think these residents have a leg to stand on. However the roads around there are pretty small as they are, let alone with more office workers in the vacinity.
 

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Too bad for the apartment owners. North Sydney desparately needs these two towers. will revive that section of the CBd. It's so lifeless.
 

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150/170m, how tall is that compared to the optus tower?
 

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Northpoint is the tallest in North Sydney at 131m followed by Optus at 120m based on the height data provided by Emporis.

The proposed towers would be the tallest in North Sydney without a doubt!!!

in that case it probably needs more resi towers to bring on some life!
It's also street level as well. North Sydney is lacking with restaurants and cafes and lacks the retail diversity of the Sydney CBD. Shopping hours are also restricted with shops closing at 3pm on Saturdays with few shops open on Sundays.

North Sydney Shoppingworld is a disappointment.
 

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N Syd is just waiting for a revamp. More residential would be good and would maybe promt some street level activity and rejuvination. Its an obvious area for expansion, given proximity to CBD, views (ever changing lol), existing train station and another proposed one (if I remember rightly?).

Council is very conservative, but N Syd could be great in 10 -15 years. Glad I just bought a place down the road!
 

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Brendan, you must be 15. Also the towers proposed are office towers not apartments so I don't know why your heart sank?

I agree that the retail centre is only really geared towards office workers. The VC pub in the Victoria Cross is closing down as it doesn't make enough money as people only go there on a Friday night after work.
 

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There's a lot more at stake for a city than looks. More resi in ns would easily fill because its so close to the sydney cbd and hence there would be the market for more services on ground level beyond business hours which would snowball into even more growth satisfying fabians concerns.
 
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