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Wow... Doesn't look like a convenient alignment at all. Two or three of the terminals will still be difficult to get to.

Besides that (and this is probly asking alot), but they couldn't build another extension to the 100% grade-separate green line? It's just odd that an aviation/aerospace developing corridor couldn't connect to a nearby major airport.
 

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Wow... Doesn't look like a convenient alignment at all. Two or three of the terminals will still be difficult to get to.

Besides that (and this is probly asking alot), but they couldn't build another extension to the 100% grade-separate green line? It's just odd that an aviation/aerospace developing corridor couldn't connect to a nearby major airport.
This alignment and the number of stops makes a whole lot more sense (at least it did to me) after looking at the long range plans for LAX. Granted, we're probably looking 20 years or more for all the changes in the plan but after the new Concourse to be built west of the new TBIT is completed, the goal is to move the ticketing and baggage claim for 1-3 and 4-7 into 4 new terminals constructed where the current parking garages are located. This puts two of the the stops directly in the terminals with the 3rd just outside of of TBIT. It starts to actual make sense this way. At that point the current 1 - 3 are planned for demolition . This keeps the overall number of gates fairly constant, which is a requirement of the deal the airport agreed to a few years back.
 

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MTA said:
Airport officials approve plan for people mover at LAX

Los Angeles – The Los Angeles Board of Airport Commissioners today unanimously approved moving forward with a $4 billion plan to transform LAX’s ground transportation and arrival and departure experience. The future Landside Access Modernization Program includes a new automated LAX Train that will connect passengers to the airline terminals from new facilities at the airport including a Rental Car Center, multiple locations for passenger pick-up and drop-off, and Metro’s planned Crenshaw Line station at 96th Street/Aviation Boulevard. The plan is designed to relieve congestion in the Central Terminal Area (CTA) as well as on local streets surrounding the airport.

“Today we are moving one step closer to bringing rail to LAX and building the world-class airport our residents and visitors deserve,” said Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who chairs the Metro Board of Directors. “The automated train to LAX, consolidated Rental Car Center and new passenger check-in facility will not only save time for travelers, but it will also ease traffic at the airport, on our freeways and in the surrounding neighborhoods. The LAX train will also improve our local economy as part of our airport modernization program that will create 40,000 jobs, remodel terminals and dramatically upgrade the passenger experience at LAX.”

The LAX Landside Modernization Program includes the following elements:

A new automated LAX Train to connect the passenger terminals to the Rent-A-Car Center, multiple pick-up and drop-off facilities and Metro’s planned Crenshaw Line station at 96th Street/Aviation Boulevard.

- Provides free, fast, reliable and convenient access to terminals for passengers, employees and other users of LAX 24/7, 365 days a year.

- Includes three stations in the Central Terminal Area connecting to the airline terminals with a convenient pedestrian walkway system.

- Encourages passenger pick-up and drop-off outside the Central Terminal Area.

- Designed specifically for travelers with luggage.

A single Rent-A-Car Center that will consolidate all rental car companies into one convenient location connected to the airport by the LAX Train.

- Improves the customer experience for visitors renting cars at LAX.

- Eliminates the need for rental car shuttles.

- Provides rental car customers direct access to major freeways.

New locations for arrival, departure, pick-up and drop-off outside the Central Terminal Area connected to the airport by the LAX Train.

- Offers new convenient parking with direct access to the LAX Train.

- Provides easily accessible and comfortable areas to meet and greet passengers.

- Creates new pick-up and drop-off locations with access to other hotel and airport shuttles.

- Includes retail, dining options and other amenities.

A quick connection to Metro’s planned Crenshaw Line station at 96th Street/Aviation Boulevard.

- The LAX Train will link the airport to Metro’s transit station and provide a connection to the region.
http://thesource.metro.net/2014/12/18/airport-officials-approve-plan-for-people-mover-at-lax/
 

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LAMP​
LAND ACCESS MODERNIZATION PROGRAM​
TED RALL/LATIMES​

It's not much consolation for anyone traveling over the next week, but LAX is​
moving on a massive overhaul of its ground transportation/arrival/departure​
situation that'll bring the airport, if not into the Twenty-First Century, at least​
into the late Twentieth. Yesterday, the Board of Airport Commissioners voted​
to move ahead on the $4-billion Landside Access Modernization Program,​
which includes a new consolidated rental car center, new pick-off/drop-​
off/parking areas, and—most gamechangingly of all—an automated people​
mover to connect those spots with a stop on the forthcoming Crenshaw Line​
light rail and, of course, with LAX's central terminal area. The idea is to keep​
anyone from ever being trapped in that terrible horseshoe road again.​





ARIAN GLICK KUDLER​
LACURBED​
 

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Conceptually I think this is about as good as we are likely to get. As I understand it:

First you go through customs and luggage pick-up. With parking and car rental shuttles out of the horseshoe it may actually be possible to pick up and drop off people with some efficiency. Hopefully Uber has rights in there and "break the bank" cabs don't, but it will probably be just the opposite when the politics are through.

For everyone else, you then look for one of the three people-mover stops in the terminal, which is not too bad once you figure out how to get there and assuming you have a clear, level path.

You then wait for the people-mover and get on with the luggage and kids. You then go to a cavernous new hall and either wait in line for car rentals and then to an endless multilevel garage jammed with cars in tight surroundings; or; or you go wait for light rail, figure out how to buy tickets (which is by no means obvious for newcomers) drag everything on-board, make connections, etc.. until you get to the hotel or home.

Oh, and you pay 4 billion dollars.
 

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The offsite intermodal transportation center is good because it serves some of the large employment base located near LAX, as well as serving airport passengers and employees.

The renderings look good enough but there is a considerable amount of open space surrounding the consolidated rental car facility and to a lesser extent, the intermodal transit center. This should be developed, with the revenue from increased land values and rents used to finance some of the several billion dollar people-mover and transportation center.
 

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Conceptually I think this is about as good as we are likely to get. As I understand it:

First you go through customs and luggage pick-up. With parking and car rental shuttles out of the horseshoe it may actually be possible to pick up and drop off people with some efficiency. Hopefully Uber has rights in there and "break the bank" cabs don't, but it will probably be just the opposite when the politics are through.

For everyone else, you then look for one of the three people-mover stops in the terminal, which is not too bad once you figure out how to get there and assuming you have a clear, level path.

You then wait for the people-mover and get on with the luggage and kids. You then go to a cavernous new hall and either wait in line for car rentals and then to an endless multilevel garage jammed with cars in tight surroundings; or; or you go wait for light rail, figure out how to buy tickets (which is by no means obvious for newcomers) drag everything on-board, make connections, etc.. until you get to the hotel or home.

Oh, and you pay 4 billion dollars.
sounds like anything short of tele-portation is a let down for you.
 

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I was trying to be fair. It does clean up some traffic for those being picked-up by car but makes the ride via transit interminable and undesirable.

It's like the (soon to be abandoned) Berlin Tegel airport, where rail transit requires connections and is difficult to use, so buses predominate. The contrast is, say, London (non-stop express trains from the terminal to middle of town).

Btw, 202-cylist's idea to stick more development in the middle seems counter-productive. The idea is to spread out to AVOID the existing excessive density, not try to get people to live and shop next to the busiest airport in the world.
 

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Btw, 202-cylist's idea to stick more development in the middle seems counter-productive. The idea is to spread out to AVOID the existing excessive density, not try to get people to live and shop next to the busiest airport in the world.
Yep-- it beats me why you would want to encourage more office development next to what will be one of Southern California's largest intermodal transit centers. Also, you're right-- it sounds much better to have this sit as vacant land right next to this several billion dollar investment rather than capture this value and use it to pay for further transit expansions.
 

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.. uh oh, ... I liked Pesto's post.
Is there still time to unlike it?

Just kidding.
I took a shuttle bus from the airport Hilton
once and walked on with my baggage and
it dropped me off at my airline.
This way, you park, you walk? to the mover
station, you get on and you get dropped at
either of the three? drop positions in the middle
of the horseshoe (spine alignment), where you
then get out and walk to what, your terminal?
I would have voted for the scissor alignment.
 

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Last Friday, Los Angeles World Airports—the departments that runs Los Angeles International Airport—held a forum to present and discuss information on the transportation plan that will totally transform the way Angelenos get to and move through LAX. Known as the Landside Access Modernization Program, the plan includes a new automated people mover to carry passengers from the Metro system to the terminals, a consolidated rental car facility, new transportation hubs, and more public parking and pedestrian walkways. LAWA has provided Curbed with some of the new glimpses into LAX's more awesome transportation future
http://la.curbed.com/2016/2/8/10940632/take-a-look-at-the-future-of-transportation-at-lax
 

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Five teams vie to build, operate people-mover at LAX

Five teams officially expressed interest in constructing and operating a people-mover at Los Angeles International Airport, officials said Friday.

The teams will next submit proposals detailing how they plan to make the $2.7 billion project happen, and how they would go about operating the people-mover once it has been built, according to Los Angeles World Airports, the city agency that operates LAX.
http://www.dailybreeze.com/business...perate-people-mover-at-lax?source=most_viewed
 
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