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which Crown should be chosen?

  • Adrian Smith Gordon gill

    Votes: 59 81.9%
  • Wilkinson Eyre

    Votes: 10 13.9%
  • Kohn Pederesn Fox

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • Total voters
    72
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Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
hope i didnt you guys excited. :lol:
just thought we need a thread on the inevitable hotel that will be erected at Barangaoo within next couple of years.
what we do know is that its location will be reviewed first quarter 2012.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6053/6347935427_b85d28cb61_b.jpg
atm the 85m pier idea doesnt look like it will happen.
some stuff mooted over past 2 years.

original height was to be 230m!!
nicknamed BIG RED



then reduced to 213m


the big red idea was given the flick and hotel reduced to 170m
june16,2010
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/sydneys-barangaroo-hotel-downsized-20100616-yg58.html

june2010
new height 170m/188m spires
40storeys
rooftop obersbvation deck










site plan/ where can it go??
 

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Big red is just... too red. But I love this design.

Then they dumbed it down and reduced the curves. :(

But considering that the tourist council has recently said that the Hotel will go no where near meeting demand for new hotels this decade, I think the height should certainly be lifted.
 

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recent premiers note
“Negotiations with Lend Lease are continuing on the location for the hotel. When a new location is identified there will be consultation with key stakeholders and the community.”
 

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Typical. Sydney just can't do anything half exciting these days. Something like the SOH will not be repeated for a long while.
 

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Im disapointed the Fatty O'Barrel hasn't turned out to be NSW's answer to Kennett, Fatty is all wind and no action..
Caving in to the minority nimbys is his 1st fail..
 

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Typical. Sydney just can't do anything half exciting these days. Something like the SOH will not be repeated for a long while.
This is not something new, Sydney's always been like this... Great projects have only come from perseverance, it took decades before Bradfield was able to convince the government to build the SHB. And the SOH was only done because the Sydney Symphony Orchestra insisted on it and demanded it's location be bennelong point, they said they would refuse to use a concert hall built any where else. And it was good fortune that the design competition picked the right design!
I hope Lend Lease doesn't give in, it takes balls and determination to build something great in this city.
 

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Typical. Sydney just can't do anything half exciting these days. Something like the SOH will not be repeated for a long while.
if ever at all.

The premier is recommending the relocation of the hotel. Lend Lease does have permission to build the pier and erect the hotel.
 

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If they had released this image from the very beginning everyone would have been excited ...

It's stunning, and original.

The original renderings were so suspect that noone really knew what it looked like. This would easily have been our most exciting and interesting building since the SOH. the new hotel they are trying to get up is revolting and looks like something that would be built in Dalian.
 

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This is not something new, Sydney's always been like this... Great projects have only come from perseverance, it took decades before Bradfield was able to convince the government to build the SHB. And the SOH was only done because the Sydney Symphony Orchestra insisted on it and demanded it's location be bennelong point, they said they would refuse to use a concert hall built any where else. And it was good fortune that the design competition picked the right design!
I hope Lend Lease doesn't give in, it takes balls and determination to build something great in this city.
The biggest problem this time is that not only have the chosen the wrong design over hundreds of better concepts but they have watered down the original vision they did choose. Whatever we get will be a sad reflection of how things happen in Sydney and we will be stuck with it for decades to come.
 

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If they had released this image from the very beginning everyone would have been excited ...

It's stunning, and original.

The original renderings were so suspect that noone really knew what it looked like. This would easily have been our most exciting and interesting building since the SOH. the new hotel they are trying to get up is revolting and looks like something that would be built in Dalian.
I am assuming they bought that render out back in 2009 when the whole thing was made public.

Avatar, what did the people at the community information session think of the design itself back in 2010? Millux can answer this too. I remember my group didn't have any real worries about the design, but rather the facilities inside that were the problem.
 

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The detailed image had not been released until 2010 from what i recall. It was not until the design was pretty much changed to the new design that I actually saw it. If it came out sooner it was never marketed.

People were mostly concerned with community facilities, water and street access, and activation at street level. Activation was a massive issue for the group. It came up again and again. People were worried about the parkland becoming a ghost-town, with little or no clarity of access from the other areas of the site. The building heights and bulk were not a massive issue, and of the few that commented most were happy enough with the need for a commercial aspect.

While I voiced my concerned on the look of the building, this was before the rendering above was made public. It's hard to say if it was a final design or a early concept. It is certainly the most detailed and most delightful of all hotels put forward to date.
 

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That render was not released at all. That image is a photo I took from an exhibition book that I bought after seeing the model in person in the architecture section of the London Royal Academy of Arts 2010 Summer Show. Ironically the display was talking about how architects often need to constantly evolve and change their designs for their clients due to other external factors.

Lord Rogers of Riverside CH RA
(Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners)

Sydney Hotel, Australia
Model
H 25 cm
 
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