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CULWULLA

Discussion Starter · Jul 13, 2012 (Edited)

the 3 resi tower just north of C3 and not to forget the 20storey south of C5.
sales for these units will proceed in next 12 months

R3=50STOREYS/175M (23,500sqm)
https://majorprojects.affinitylive....5853/Preliminary Environmental Assessment.pdf
R4=45STOREYS/160M
https://majorprojects.affinitylive....37d2/Preliminary Environmental Assessment.pdf
R5=35STOREYS/130M
R7=20STOREYS/75M
https://majorprojects.affinitylive....87969184d69cc6b0f1/Architectural Drawings.pdf

the 3 resi towers (R3,R4,R5)

R7 Tower

some latest renders

http://www.smh.com.au/business/bara...-next-step-for-lend-lease-20120709-21rnw.html

Barangaroo apartment sales next step for Lend Lease

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/bara...-lend-lease-20120709-21rnw.html#ixzz20SbziK6t

LEND Lease is looking to start sales of the residential tower at Sydney's $6 billion Barangaroo South project within the next two years, after securing funding for the project.

Aside from the three office towers, casino and hotel, about 775 to 800 apartments are planned for the site. The apartments could have an asking price of $1 million-plus.

After lengthy talks, the group said that New South Wales government superannuants in First State Super and the Telstra Super fund would be direct financiers of the $2 billion Barangaroo South project.

The two funds are included in the syndicate with the Lend Lease-managed Australian Prime Property Fund Commercial that will take a combined $500 million stake in the construction of the development.

Advertisement The Canada Pension Plan Investment Board will invest $1 billion and Lend Lease will make up the remaining $500 million, funded by internal cash flow, not by shareholders.

Westpac, KPMG and Lend Lease are the confirmed anchor tenants for the first two office towers, at an average rental of $1000 a square metre, with about 20 per cent of the rent as incentives. It is speculated that accounting firm PwC could take out the anchor space for the 3rd tower.

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· #321 · Sep 28, 2013

lordpine said:
soooo happy we didnt end up with that big red monstrosity... just ugghhh

I was of the same opinion until I saw the real design and a high quality render, one that was never promoted and released I think until after the design was axed. The design was phenomenal I think it was a chance missed for Sydney. The real big red was far more sophisticated than what we will get IMO. I know many of you don't agree but the original renderings and design matched much more effectively with the three commercial towers and had a much better balance than placing the tallest building to the north.

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CULWULLA

Discussion Starter · #322 · Sep 28, 2013

tall bld to the north makes sence. its a crown move. check mate

Fabian

· #323 · Sep 28, 2013

We could have had both if we had some initative. Even Packer didn't care provided he got his built.

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· #324 · Sep 29, 2013

Cul but it was never the place for a tall building it will now forever unbalance the skyline. The taller towers should have been to the south of the site IMO and almost all entries into the original competition agreed.

If they wanted to make crown distinctive and sit it to the north like it is, it really should be 400m+ and totally make a statement. If they are going to **** with the skyline than go hard or go home.

CULWULLA

Discussion Starter · #325 · Sep 29, 2013

400m i think is too tall for banga. ive always thought 300m would be good.but reality check and 250m will be good enough.

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· #326 · Sep 29, 2013

I get what you're saying but your dismissing my point. 250m at this end of the site just makes a mess of everything. If they wanted to do this they should have seriously unbalanced the skyline with something more dramatic.

CULWULLA

Discussion Starter · #327 · Sep 29, 2013

but crown will be equal in height with GPT over other side of cbd, along with the others which balances the skyline

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· #328 · Sep 29, 2013

True, but from most angles it will create incredible imbalance, I say they should have gone all out. Who builds a city with the tall buildings at the fringes? It's somewhat strange and worse for Sydney due to our very controlled skyline shape.

finn

· #329 · Sep 29, 2013

Avatar said:
True, but from most angles it will create incredible imbalance, I say they should have gone all out. Who builds a city with the tall buildings at the fringes? It's somewhat strange and worse for Sydney due to our very controlled skyline shape.

Brisbane does, strangely enough. All the tallest buildings are along the very edge of the CBD.

200m+ towers. Red = Built, Green = U/C, Purple = Proposed

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· #330 · Sep 29, 2013 (Edited)

Yes but it's not typical in a city that has a very clearly defined skyline shape. CoS have shot themselves in the foot by presiding too heavily over the shape of the skyline here IMO, I'd have preferred the shape to have remained now we have it, with most of the development closer to the central spine. Too late now

Fabian

· #331 · Sep 29, 2013

Finn has made a good point because the tallies in Brisbane act like markers which "tell" the skyscrapers to stay in their spaces. Because they are on the boundaries they get attention from everyone.

Avatar, Crown will be about twice as tall as the towers that line that stretch of Kent Street. It will stick out like the rest of the Barangaroo towers.

CULWULLA

Discussion Starter · #332 · Sep 29, 2013

that would make a interesting map for sydney too

pat_

· #333 · Sep 30, 2013

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True, but from most angles it will create incredible imbalance, I say they should have gone all out. Who builds a city with the tall buildings at the fringes? It's somewhat strange and worse for Sydney due to our very controlled skyline shape.

um, where do you think chifley tower, GPT et. al. are?

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· #334 · Sep 30, 2013

Ahhh none of you seem to understand what I am intimating.

Yes they are on the fringe but their height works within the context of what we have and more importantly they also taper up to the highest point, not way from it. Tapering up form the harbour would certainly look better even if only in the North to South arrangement. I do acknowledge this may now give scope for taller towers east to west bewteen the eastern CBD and Barangaroo/Darling Harbour

I'd have preferred crown be at the very south of the site and quite a bit taller to mimic the shape of the skyline slightly more. I am all for statement pieces but I think more of a statement could have been made if that was the intention.

CULWULLA

Discussion Starter · #335 · Sep 30, 2013

ok av, time for a lie down

Fabian

· #336 · Sep 30, 2013

Avatar said:
Ahhh none of you seem to understand what I am intimating.

Yes they are on the fringe but their height works within the context of what we have and more importantly they also taper up to the highest point, not way from it. Tapering up form the harbour would certainly look better even if only in the North to South arrangement. I do acknowledge this may now give scope for taller towers east to west bewteen the eastern CBD and Barangaroo/Darling Harbour

I'd have preferred crown be at the very south of the site and quite a bit taller to mimic the shape of the skyline slightly more. I am all for statement pieces but I think more of a statement could have been made if that was the intention.

Hold on, you want to propose that the towers step up from north to south like the city skyline is now. It wouldn't work because Crown in no way would stand out.

BuildBigger

· #337 · Sep 30, 2013 (Edited)

It just means we need a 300 metre scraper in the centre of the city to bring all the 200m towers together on either side.

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· #338 · Sep 30, 2013

BuildBigger said:
It just means we need a 300 metre scraper in the centre of the city to bring all the 200m towers together on either side together.

Not tall enough to work ... more like a 600m tower.

Sky_Is_The_Limit

· #339 · Oct 8, 2013

Screenshots from this AFR video;
http://www.afr.com/p/business/property/barangaroo_financial_hub_in_the_zx2pQTXEwKgvhuF1Yeev7M

Hopefully we get HQ renders tomorrow.

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Fabian

· #340 · Oct 8, 2013

As much as I wanted the canals to run through, the situtation has changed and I will accept the new public square that looks to have replaced the cove.

I can see too a direct walkway from Hickson Road to the Crown Resort.

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