Downtown FW is very compact, but still urban. Around DT, however, minus a couple of nice new developments immediately west and south of DT, it's not very urban at all. And, as I said elsewhere, that's okay. I think FW works fine like it is. The only thing that really bothers me about FW is that it has a litter problem. Other than that, it's a cool little city. Clearly identifiable and independent from big brother Dallas but still part of the Metroplex as a whole.