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One of the big developments on the Pyrmont Peninsula in Sydney over the past 3-4 years has been the redevelopment of the 4.9 ha Darling Island precient.

The area was originally an island and was levelled during the 19th century begining in the 1830's. Originally it was linked to the mainland by mudflats. Wharves were built and was a location for trade, shipmaking and cruise ships.

Like the rest of the docks in Darling Harbour and East Darling Harbour (Barangaroo), containerisation led to the demise of the wharves in the 1970's and 1980's.

It's undergone renewal with office blocks and apartment blocks occupying the site along with parkland with great views of the harbour. It is also the home of Fairfax Media.









Old Naval Stores Building





























New office tower due for completion early next year





Located opposite Star City





 

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For all the offices, apartments and density it always seems to be a very quiet, even dead part of town.
 

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For all the offices, apartments and density it always seems to be a very quiet, even dead part of town.
Isn't it nice then to have such a quiet spot so close to the cbd? :) Those photos do seem to have a few people mulling around though but it's not Hong Kong. I agree, considering Pyrmonts residential density, being in the top few places density wise in the country and could soon become the most dense area in the county, and it's growing commercial base, it still has some very quiet spots. I don't think this will remain the case within a few years, unfortunately.

Darling Island still has a long way to go with it's densification, it's not even close to half way there yet. The Fairfax building, at about 25,000sqm, is still only partly occupied. Saunders Wharf residential is also still only partly occupied and all its ground floor retail/commercial are still empty. Sydney Wharf (wharf 8 and 9) is still UC but almost complete.

Then there's the 18,000sqm 6 star campus block UC in Fabians photos called Workplace6 that will house Accenture (lower 3 floors) and Google (top 3 floors). There's also another campus block that will go between Channel 7 and RevyC.

RevyC has pretty much been vacated by the defence department and will add to the area again when redeveloped into offices - (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=560672)

Only the "Darling Island" resi units are fully occupied but if you go onto the property websites there's quite a few up for rent, being between $1200 - $3000 per week so I guess they sit idle for longer periods than most rentals (there's actually pages and pages of Pyrmont resi up for rent but most of it is the upper end which musn't be in shortage - it's another world).

And the only office block fully occupied is the channel 7 offices in the other ex-defence building. There's all the small mix-use offices on Jones Bay Wharf nearby and the 4,500sqm Wharf 10 offices on the other side near Sydney Wharf, but I'm not sure how many of those people would wander out to Darling Island. Then there's the "other" maritime museum building, the wharf 7 "heritage centre" which is always quiet. And I'm not sure how many people from the casino bother to wander over to Darling Island either.

And, of course, I'm the most biased person to comment on Pyrmont but like I've said before, it's the fact that there's always something new going on, and that it's still becoming what it is, that I love it.
 

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Thanks for that summary Lance, clears up a few misconceptions and doubts I had about the area.

I'm generally a Pyrmont fan :)

Although my one gripe is it could become just a little bit too exclusively yuppie
 

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What I have noticed with some of the newly established harbourside parks is that there are few facilities. No playgrounds for kids or picnic areas with BBQ's. If you added those it would certainly bring in some people.
 

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kids, who is having those these days :p

nah agreed, well for maybe some playgrounds. Apart from that the developments look good.
 

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On the potential to become a real yuppie area - there is no dubt, especially Darling Island which is only for the ultra-rich. Same goes for the newer parts of jacksons landing, especially the higher up in the towers you go. But some of jacksons is still very much in reach rental wise for young professionals just starting out - if they share together, which lots do.

There's also lots and lots of long term backpackers who share together, they are surprisingly everywhere.

But out of the harbourside view areas, like where I am, its much more affordable but again, you wouldn't be living on your own unless ...

If you are on an average wage or lower and have a connection to the area either by employment or family, you qualify for a place in all the new citywest apartments that keep popping up. I've mentioned the system a few times before - it is a 3 tier public housing scheme that accommodates the poor in the first tier then accepts household incomes up to about 80k in the top tier. IMHO the system works very well, much better than housing commission because the spread of incomes keeps a balance.

Pyrmont has loads of public housing, both houso and citywest and some have the best views in the area! I never ever notice it. I do notice a real spread of people though and they don't feel yuppie to me but this may change if most new devs are high end out balancing the likes of citywest.

On the parks thing. Yes, darling island is void of play equipment and bbqs for some silly reason but the superb waterside park in jacksons landing gets loads of picnickers because of its bbqs and play gear. The new water police park will have a big set and lots of bbqs!
 

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the old naval stores (pyrmonts first skyscraper-1912) is about to reburbed into million dollar apartments.
the first floors is sydneys only use of BLUESTONE!!
you can see in this pic hidden by fence>
 
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