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Note: Tiny city states like Hongkong or Tianjin are not allowed.

China: Jiangsu Province:



Size: 102,600 km2 (39,600 sq mi)
Population (2010): 78,659,903
Density: 736 /km2 (1,910 /sq mi)

We have 7 cities (Xuzhou, Suqian, Yangzhou, Nanjing, Changzhou, Wuxi and Suzhou) with more than 1 million people in city proper, all prefecture-level cities have a metro population over 1 million.


Wikipedia:



Rural Density:




Jiangsu on the map:

 

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If city states are not allowed, then it is Nordrhein-Westfalen for Germany. In 2010 it had a density of 532/km² with a population of 17.9 million people.

Since the land use is not so good visible on Google Earth, I post a map for it:



Red is residential areas, dark red commercial areas, dark green is forests, light green is grasslands, the light yellow area is farming land and the black areas are open pit mines. Between a half and two thirds of the State's population is concentrated in the Rhein-Ruhr-area, stretching from Dortmund to Bonn.
 

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Well it's on par with most Dutch provinces, so I thought it would count.

Either way in second place is Victoria with a population of 5,574,500 and an area of 237,629 km2, resulting in a population density of 24.51/km2
 

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In Poland its Silesian voivodeship.

Data for Silesian (and whole country)
Population: 4 638 000 (38 501 000)
Area: 12 333 km2 (312 679 km2)
Density: 376/km2 (123/km2)




 

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Netherlands as per 1/1/2012: 41526 km2 and 16.736.736 inhabitants = 403 per km2.

Provinces per km2
#1 South Holland 1.260
#2 North Holland 1.013
#3 Utrecht 891
#4 Limburg 522
#5 North Brabant 501
#6 Gelderland 404
#7 Overijssel 342
#8 Flevoland 278
#9 Groningen 249
#10 Zeeland 214
#11 Friesland 194
#12 Drenthe 186

I think there are very few provinces/states (not city states) in the world that top South Holland.
 

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Canada
3.7 people/square kilometre (34,670,352 people)


01. Prince Edward Island 24.7 (145,883)
02. Nova Scotia 17.4 (945,532)
03. Ontario 14.1 (13,445,408)
04. New Brunswick 10.5 (756,030)
05. Quebec 5.8 (8,013,073)
06. Alberta 5.7 (3,817,980)
07. British Columbia 4.8 (4,597,919)
08. Manitoba 2.2 (1,258,260)
09. Saskatchewan 1.8 (1,067,612)
10. Newfoundland and Labrador 1.4 (511,036)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_population

All provinces except Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island contain huge swaths of uninhabited land. For example, about 95% of Ontario's population is concentrated in the south. If southern Ontario were a province, it's population density would be 96 people/square kilometre. That's still low compared to many parts of the world, but it would rank as the densest part of Canada.
 

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^^
Complementing xrtn's post:

Brasil




Wikipedia


http://confins.revues.org/2083

Regions

1. SUDESTE --- 86.92 --- 80,353,724
2. SUL --- 47.59 --- 27,384,815
3. NORDESTE --- 34.11 --- 53,078,137
4. CENTRO-OESTE --- 8.75 --- 14,050,340
5. NORTE --- 4.10 --- 15,865,678

States

1. Distrito Federal --- 441.74 --- 2,562,963
2. Rio de Janeiro --- 366,01 --- 15,993,583
3. São Paulo --- 166.19 --- 41,252,160
4. Alagoas --- 112.39 --- 3,120,922
5. Sergipe --- 94.38 --- 2,068,031
6. Pernambuco --- 89.47 --- 8,796,032
7. Espírito Santo --- 76.23 --- 3,512,672
8. Paraíba --- 66.74 --- 3,766,834
9. Santa Catarina --- 65.54 --- 6,249,682
10. Rio Grande do Norte --- 60.00 --- 3,168,133
11. Ceará --- 56.76 --- 8,448,055
12. Paraná --- 52.37 --- 10,439,601
13. Rio Grande do Sul --- 37.96 --- 10,695,532
14. Minas Gerais --- 33.40 --- 19,595,309
15. Bahia --- 24.83 --- 14,021,432
16. Maranhão --- 19.78 --- 6,569,683
17. Goiás --- 17.65 --- 6,004,045
18. Piauí --- 12.40 --- 3,119,015
19. Mato Grosso do Sul --- 6.85 --- 2,449,341
20. Rondônia --- 6.56 --- 1,560,501
21. Pará --- 6.08 --- 7,588,078
22. Tocantins --- 4.98 --- 1,383,453
23. Acre --- 4.80 --- 732,793
24. Amapá --- 4.68 --- 668,689
25. Mato Grosso --- 3.36 --- 3,033,991
26. Amazonas --- 2.21 --- 3,480,937
27. Roraima --- 2.01 --- 451,227

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Up to the late 1990's, Rio de Janeiro was the densest.
 

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South Africa - Gauteng

It is by far the smallest of the 9 provinces (only 1.4% of total land area) but has more than 20% of South Africa's population.

Population: 11.3 million
Area: 18 178 sqkm
Density: 623/sqkm

Largest Cities: Johannesburg, Pretoria



 

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^^ Isn't the Mexico example just Mexico city? (thus a city state?)

That aerial picture of China is crazy by the way:nuts:. Has someone data about other Asian countries like India or Indonesia?


Belgium
If we leave out Brussels (as a city state) the Antwerp province has the highest density (1.800.000 people on 2.876 km² => 615 inh/km²). The Belgian provinces are comparable to the Dutch provinces.

Besides, we also have a few regions (that are more like the German states). Again, if we omit Brussels (which is technically neither a province nor a real state), Flanders is the region with the highest density (6.250.000 people on 13.500 km² => 462 inh/km²).


Population density Belgium by Wappertien, on Flickr

The Antwerp province is in the blue circle and the Flemish region in the large green circle (sorry for the amateuristic look:sad2:).
The map was made by the Belgian statistical agency.

As you see, it is not a very good idea to leave out city states in a very small country, because it distorts the data. The city of Brussels is actually larger than its administrative region, so that the Brussels metropolitan area is divided over two regions. If you don't cut out its middle part (the Brussels region), the province of Flemish Brabant (in the very centre of Belgium) has clearly a higher density than the Antwerp province.
 

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^^ Isn't the Mexico example just Mexico city? (thus a city state?)
Well I only considered the Federal District population which is 8.5 million, in the State of Mexico lives more than half of the population of the actual city with 12 million. I wouldn't consider Mexico City a city-state, there are still a lot of lost towns in the Federal District which are pretty far away from the urban area, and for us if you live in the Federal District or the State of Mexico it is still Mexico City for us.
 

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Of course the Mexican DF is a city-state. IFor instance, it's smaller than São Paulo's municipality. Following the thread's rules, Mexico State is the densest state in Mexico.

An interesting fact though: put together, Mexico City, Mexico State and Morelos have 25,804,169 people living in 27,784 km², giving a density of 929 inh/km², higher than Jiangsu's.
 

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The Indonesian Provinces of West Java and Banten are among the world's densest non-city-state sub-national entities by population.

West Java contains the urban sprawl of Jakarta to its south and east, as well as the Bandung metropolitan area. However, 9 of its 17 regencies are primarily rural. Its overall population density is 1236 / sq km.

Banten contains the urban sprawl of Jakarta to its west, as well as many rural areas. Its overall population density is 1162 / sq km.

reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_subdivisions_by_population

When we compare that to the State of New Jersey in the US, which contains much of the urban sprawl of both New York City and Philadelphia, has an overall population density of only 459 / sq km.

However, Jiangsu Province in China would quite likely contain the world's highest rural built-up density.
 

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Perhaps the world's densest non-city-state sub-national entity is Japan's Kanagawa Prefecture.

Kanagawa Prefecture has an overall population density of 3740 / sq km, and contains the world's most populous suburb, Yokohama, containing 3.7 million people.
 
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