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Coorect it's Ash Palmers Dual on vivian site.

It sold out early last year then increased prices halted construction, the contracts had to be dumped and re sold.

Content became in issue because of the bulking rule and new drawings had to be commissioned also.

I hope it ends up looking nice.
MSD Building

It is odd that council has allowed this on limited notification given its scale. This is a huge slab of a building adjacent to a residential precinct. The design from what we have seen to date is hardly something to be excited about and it is out of scale with what is there currently.

This building is by no small margin the biggest office building in the country.

Has the cassells lead lobby group "vibrant wellington" attacked it yet as they did the harbour quays development for dragging tenants from the CBD? I haven't seen anything from them.
I don't think I've seen any renders of this MSD building or pic's of it's surrounds. Are you able to share?

And welcome aboard Marcus50.
It is odd that council has allowed this on limited notification given its scale. This is a huge slab of a building adjacent to a residential precinct. The design from what we have seen to date is hardly something to be excited about and it is out of scale with what is there currently.

This building is by no small margin the biggest office building in the country.

Has the cassells lead lobby group "vibrant wellington" attacked it yet as they did the harbour quays development for dragging tenants from the CBD? I haven't seen anything from them.
Here's the original article:
Parliament to fight giant office block - DomPost

It's officially to be known as Bowen Integrated Campus, and the developer is Capital Properties (a division of AMP Property). No word yet from Vibrant Wellington as their main focus was on CentrePort, but the Parliamentary Commission is stiffly opposed to the BIC.
Bowen Integrated Campus

This is a huge slab of a building adjacent to a residential precinct. The design from what we have seen to date is hardly something to be excited about and it is out of scale with what is there currently.

This building is by no small margin the biggest office building in the country.
It's difficult to discuss this in too much detail, given that we've only seen one rendering from one perspective. But to call it a "huge slab of a building" isn't quite accurate: it's a collection of new buildings and additions to existing buildings. While the resulting buildings will be joined together in some way, calling it "the biggest office building in the country" might not be a meaningful comparison, any more than it would be to take a whole block of Lambton Quay and say that it's the biggest office building.

I do agree that it's hardly an exciting design, and that even the most conventional of the entries into the Kumutoto competition would have been miles better aesthetically. But given the existing Modernist buildings on the site (which are much more like "monoliths" than the planned campus), I don't think it's particularly out of scale.

Has the cassells lead lobby group "vibrant wellington" attacked it yet as they did the harbour quays development for dragging tenants from the CBD? I haven't seen anything from them.
Vibrant Wellington hasn't said anything, and I think that they've been wound up. However, Cassells' own company has put out at least one media release condemning the Thorndon developments as "a mini Canberra" on the city's fringe.
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Wellington: Population of 520,500 in 2026
SCOOP - Monday, 3 December 2007, 4:57 pm

Upward revisions in population projections for Wellington strengthen the case for infrastructure development in the region according to the Wellington Regional Chamber of Commerce. The population of the Wellington region in the year 2026 is now expected to be 520,500 compared with only 488,300 when projections were last released in February 2005. The projected population as a proportion of New Zealand's total population is also up. "This is a significant upward revision. The various agencies responsible for infrastructure development in the region will need to take account of these latest numbers in their planning," said Chamber Chief Executive, Charles Finny.

"The population projections used for the original work on Transmission Gully, for example, have been well and truly surpassed. "A population projection of 470,000 by 2026 was quoted in reports as recently as 2005. We are not far off that now. "The upward revision is predominantly due to faster population growth expected in Wellington city, particularly from net migration (to and from Wellington city). "It is also encouraging that Wellington city's population is expected to be relatively youthful looking ahead. By the end of the projection period Wellington city will have a greater proportion of its population in the working ages than any other territorial authority area," Mr Finny concluded.
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I thought the Wellington metro area did have a population which was around 450,000.
Bowen Integrated Campus

From the Dom:

Space-age atrium for office block
DAVE BURGESS - The Dominion Post | Tuesday, 04 December 2007

A huge self-inflating, space-age atrium would provide a social and retail hub for a controversial office block proposed for Bowen St, its architects say.

Under the proposal – which Parliament has objected to, fearing it would dominate the parliamentary precinct – new seven- or eight-storey facades would be attached to the Bowen State Building and Charles Fergusson Tower.

A new seven- or eight-storey building would also be built. It would enclose the space planned for the 3600-square-metre atrium. The six-storey Charles Fergusson annexe building would be demolished.

The development would run from the edge of Bowen St to the border of "sculpture park" created by the demolition of Broadcasting House.

Three resource consent commissioners heard evidence yesterday in support of the Capital Properties New Zealand proposal, to be known as Bowen Integrated Campus.

Architect Jon Craig, a director of Craig Craig Moller Architects, said the atrium would be covered by a plastic originally developed for the space industry.

"The material is practically clear, self-cleaning, lightweight, and insulated as it is made into a pillow continually inflated by small air pumps.

"Most importantly, it allows UV light to penetrate, allowing the atrium to grow trees and shrubs," he said.

A cafe in Bowen St would back on to the atrium, which would provide access to up to 15 shops.

"Retail facilities envisaged are cafe, hairdresser, dry cleaner, books, magazines, music, ATM, medical, dentist, pharmacy, photos, and coffee and muffin carts," Mr Craig said.

The wind-free atrium, which would have seating areas that incorporated heated and insulated concrete slabs, would have natural ventilation through mechanically controlled glass louvres.

A 50-child creche, accessible from the atrium, is also on the drawing board.

The proposed 83,700-square- metre redevelopment would more than double the existing office space to nearly 59,000 sq m.

The Social Development Ministry occupies 84 per cent of the office space at present. The rest is leased by the Justice Ministry.

The Parliamentary Service Commission opposed the proposal on the grounds that it would have a negative impact on the parliamentary heritage area, that it does not respect Parliament buildings, and that the shadow cast by the development would be excessive.

The commission's evidence will be heard later in the hearing, which is expected to end on Thursday.
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Bowen Integrated Campus

From the Dom:

Parliament block plan 'an insult to heritage'
TOM FITZSIMONS - The Dominion Post | Thursday, 06 December 2007

A sprawling office block that could become Parliament's neighbour is an "egocentric and introspective" insult to a unique heritage area, opponents say.

In a withering attack on the controversial proposal, lawyer Con Anastasiou – who is representing Speaker Margaret Wilson and the Parliamentary Services Commission – said the Bowen St office block had an irremediable design approach that paid only token attention to the surrounding area.

"Heritage was purely an afterthought, and purely something to which lip-service has been paid," he told the resource consent hearing for the block.

The development, known as the Bowen Integrated Campus, would stretch across several sites. It would require demolition of the six-storey Charles Fergusson annex, construction of a new seven- or eight-storey building, and the addition of new facades to the Bowen State Building and Charles Fergusson Tower.

It would run to the edge of Bowen St and the "sculpture park" already created by the demolition of Broadcasting House.

Mr Anastasiou lambasted the development in its entirety, beginning with the consultation process – which notified only Parliament – before moving to its effects on shade, urban form, nearby workers and, most of all, the area's heritage.

The planners had called in a heritage expert only when the plans were well developed – a sign they were not serious about the area's surroundings, he said.

"New Zealand has only one Parliament. It has only one parliamentary precinct. This precinct is of national and local importance."

Though nearby buildings did not yet have heritage status, Wellington City Council's experts had suggested they were deserving of it, he said.

The development was an act of disrespect, and an example of "building to the max" which would "get in Parliament's face".

The way it was designed around the planned sculpture park was a "de facto appropriation" of public land for private purposes.

Other sites in the central area could have accommodated an office development – but had been ignored because of the developers' desire to get a huge site, he said.

Parliamentary Services Commission acting general manager David Smyth said other legislative buildings around the world, such as Washington DC's Capitol Building and Australia's Parliament in Canberra, were given a wide berth, to maintain "a sense of scaled dignity".

Earlier in the day, planners Capital Properties New Zealand concluded its case by calling on experts who argued that the building would increase pedestrian safety and wind shelter.

The rest of Parliament's case will be presented today.
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Mount Cook supermarket

This one's been around for a while: looks like something is finally going to happen. I'd like to see what sort of design Foodstuffs has in mind. Hopefully something a bit more interesting than the typical suburban shed - mixed use (with apartments and a few small shops)?

From Scoop:

Mount Cook demolition application received
Wednesday, 12 December 2007, 3:09 pm
Press Release: Wellington City Council

Wellington City Council has received a building consent application for the demolition of the Boys and Girls Institute buildings, along with a number of other buildings, on the site of a proposed supermarket in Tasman Street, Mt Cook.

The Council’s Development Guidance Manager, Dougal List, says the official application for building consent to clear the site was received this week from agents acting for the land owner, Foodstuffs.

Council officers are checking the plans to see if any resource consent approval is required before the buildings can be demolished. Among the issues to be checked is whether the site, bounded by Tasman, Rugby and Belfast streets, could be contaminated.

No application for resource consent for a new supermarket or other use has been received by the Council. Mr List says officers are seeking further information from Foodstuffs about its plans for the site.

“We are concerned about what happens to the site if the buildings are demolished before plans are agreed for a new use. We really do not want a large vacant site in this prominent location for a long period.”

Mr List says it’s unlikely that the Council will issue the building consent before Christmas.
From the DomPost

This is slightly delayed, since it's not on Stuff.co.nz:

Source: Dominion Post, The; 24/11/2007, pC11

City office block looks at adding four floors

Edition: 2, Section: BUSINESS, pg. C11

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Colin PATTERSON

COMMERCIAL PROPERTY


A WELL-KNOWN central Wellington office building is likely to become a little taller.

Owner Dominion Funds has applied to Wellington City Council to build a further four floors on top of Optimation House at 1 Grey St, opposite the Intercontinental Hotel.

Optimation House was built in the 1970s for AMP, which sold it to Dominion Funds in 2002. Chief executive Paul Duffy said the additional floors would enable Dominion Funds to maximise the value of its investment and provide improved returns for its investors.

Even when extended, the building would be within the area's 80-metre height limit.

Mr Duffy said the timing of construction depended on the results of a marketing campaign for the new space.

Existing tenants would be consulted before work started. They would have the option of remaining while construction work took place.

Adding floors to existing buildings is not a new trend. Last year Cheops was granted consent for an additional four floors on the Tower Building on Customhouse Quay.

PrimeProperty was successful earlier this year in gaining consent to add eight floors to a Lambton Quay building that it wishes to convert into a hotel.

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CAPTION:

Going up in the world: Optimation House's owner, Dominion Funds, says that, even when extended, the building will be within central Wellington's 80-metre height limit.
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More from the DomPost

Here's the DomPost article on the Warehouse Stationery site:

Dominion Post, The; 08/12/2007, pC12

Inner-city developer site sells for $4.7m

Edition: 2, Section: BUSINESS, pg. C12

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Colin PATTERSON

COMMERCIAL PROPERTY

A PRIME inner-city Wellington site with development potential has sold for $4.7 million.

The property at 160-162 Victoria St was bought by Craig Stewart of Stratum Management. Mr Stewart is one of Wellington's best known apartment developers. Among the projects he has been associated with are Piermont and Monument -- currently being built in Tory St -- and Portal in nearby Tory St.

The Victoria St property has a Warehouse Stationery store on it. Warehouse Stationery's lease expires in 2009 and it has no rights of renewal.

Mr Stewart said he bought the 1276 square metre site because it could be redeveloped for either commercial or residential uses.

He was taking time to consider options for the site.

The property was sold by Mark Hourigan and Grant Young of Bayleys Commercial for well above its valuation of $3 million. The sale price was a 3.3 per cent yield on its rent.

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CAPTION:

Prime site: This property at 160-162 Victoria St has been bought by Craig Stewart of Stratum Management.
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Dominion Post, The; 01/12/2007, pC12

Vivian St opportunity

Edition: 2, Section: BUSINESS, pg. C12

COMMERCIAL PROPERTY

A VACANT Wellington office building that could be turned into apartments is on the market.

The 1270-square-metre building is at 86-90 Vivian St.

Marketing agent Mark Sherlock of Bayleys Commercial said the building had ground-floor retail space fronting Vivian St and rear work-room space with access to Jessie St. Its first-floor office space was accessible by a lift and stairs.

"While it has a somewhat outdated look, the property lends itself to either part or complete redevelopment because of its excellent natural light and dual street frontage"

Mr Sherlock said the ground floor could become a retail showroom, while the first floor could be retained as office space or converted into apartments. "You could potentially build another floor of apartments above that."

Alternatively, the building could be demolished to make way for a complete redevelopment. He said the area's 27-metre height limit provided plenty of scope.

The property has a capital valuation of $2.02 million. Tenders close on December 5.
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Is there any news on the Terry Serepisos supposed tallest building in Wellington, because all I know is that he said thats what he wants to do. What I want to know is there any official information about this. Like was that just a passing remark about a long term goal or is this something serious and design is already underway?
One other question; if it's supposed to be on Lambton Quay next to the cable car (from Wellurban) how can it possibly be the tallest. The height limit there is 80 metres and even with the extra 35% height thats still only 108 metres. Unless he plans to break all the rules? If it is truly going to be the tallest will it be something like tallest as in its roof height is only one floor higher than the Majestic Centre with maybe a 10m spire on it or is should we expect something really spectacular forever altering the skyline in a brilliant way, like the Elliot in Auckland. I really hope that this building doesn't go all Christchurch on us.
Well Moveux,

I wasn't going to post this until I had confirmed the details, but since you asked!.

I spoke to an architect this week, who has seen the plans for the building. They are currently working through the issues with the council, but it shocked me what she had to say, but as yet I have to confirm this so people shouldn't get to excited. She mentioned to me about mixed use, and said a floor number that I didn't believe!!! I talking the big 60 people!!!, but this is very early info and unconfirmed so. I am working to get out as much information as possible. She said the new legislation allows for 'Iconic' buildings and thats the plan. and the height limit is only for what doesn't need consent remember. So this thing would defo need consent. Its the site on Lambton Quay in front of the Novotel. If Terry Serepisos is the local hero at the moment, so this could really happen!!

Watch this Space!
^^Wow sounds very interesting ;) Keep us posted capt P.
OMG ......Be good to see one in Auckland and One in Welly rising at the same time !

Well Moveux,

I wasn't going to post this until I had confirmed the details, but since you asked!.

I spoke to an architect this week, who has seen the plans for the building. They are currently working through the issues with the council, but it shocked me what she had to say, but as yet I have to confirm this so people shouldn't get to excited. She mentioned to me about mixed use, and said a floor number that I didn't believe!!! I talking the big 60 people!!!, but this is very early info and unconfirmed so. I am working to get out as much information as possible. She said the new legislation allows for 'Iconic' buildings and thats the plan. and the height limit is only for what doesn't need consent remember. So this thing would defo need consent. Its the site on Lambton Quay in front of the Novotel. If Terry Serepisos is the local hero at the moment, so this could really happen!!

Watch this Space!
:cheers:
Well Moveux,

I wasn't going to post this until I had confirmed the details, but since you asked!.

I spoke to an architect this week, who has seen the plans for the building. They are currently working through the issues with the council, but it shocked me what she had to say, but as yet I have to confirm this so people shouldn't get to excited. She mentioned to me about mixed use, and said a floor number that I didn't believe!!! I talking the big 60 people!!!, but this is very early info and unconfirmed so. I am working to get out as much information as possible. She said the new legislation allows for 'Iconic' buildings and thats the plan. and the height limit is only for what doesn't need consent remember. So this thing would defo need consent. Its the site on Lambton Quay in front of the Novotel. If Terry Serepisos is the local hero at the moment, so this could really happen!!

Watch this Space!
Let me guess... it's probably going to be built on top of either 276 Lambton (Hallensteins House) or 256-272 Lambton (Quay Point Bldg).
That sounds exactly like the kind of tallest building we need. When do you think it would be possible to get confirmed details?

edit: I thought that a building considered to be iconic could only go 35% higher, as in that is the absolute maximum no matter what.
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