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GEwinnen, you compare apples and oranges. The Westfalenstadion in its core is from 1974. The first expansion of main and opposite stand was started in the mid 90s. I'm sure if the club and architects could start all over today with the 1974 stadium as basis they would do alot of things differently. Still they couldn't start from scratch and plan every detail without barriers or restrictions as was done for the Arena Auf Schalke. It was a year-long process, and in my opinion lead to a great stadium and I always liked to be there-despite its flaws.

And atmosphere is created by people, not by concrete.
Agreed. What might have been lacking in further developing this stadium beyond it's initial state form 1974 is an overall vision how the stadium could be made basically twice as large, and incorporate new facilities and amenities. That is showed in the stands that are different from each other and also do not really connect well to each other. Just like Old Trafford has this to a certain extend.

And without a fanatic and enthusiastic crowd no stadium in the world will have a great atmosphere to play in, no matter how beautiful and good the basic design of the stadium is.
 

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Borussia Dortmund’s Signal Iduna Park expansion: Germany’s biggest stadium set to get bigger!

They may boast the highest average attendance ever recorded in European club football, but Borussia Dortmund are set to add yet more seats to the Signal Iduna Park for the 2018/19 season.

Die Schwarzgelben became the first club ever to record an average attendance of over 81,000 fans in 2015/16, but the club have announced that next season the capacity will climb from its current 81,359 to 81,365.
 

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I was hoping for a third tier :D

But actually is a "big deal" this expansion. From the link above:
"A gain of six seats may seem marginal, but BVB have 50,000 people on their season ticket waiting list, so every little helps. The Signal Iduna Park will also sit 248 more spectators for UEFA Champions League evenings. Bundesliga games will see the full capacity being used, with 66,099 now allowed for European competition."
 

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No-Show: Borussia Dortmund threatened with season ticket withdrawal

Because some season ticket holders of Borussia Dortmund use their season tickets only in the top games, the club has decided to threaten those who use their ticket in less than ten games of the season 2018/19, with the termination.

"Unfortunately, we increasingly found that in the past Bundesliga home games many season tickets were left unused, while many fans could not purchase single tickets due to high demand. BVB has introduced the no-show rate with the aim of noticeably reducing the number of unused season tickets per match. This should be ensured in terms of high ticket demand that the privilege of a season ticket is not exploited at the expense of other fans, "said BVB CEO Carsten Cramer the introduction of the so-called no-show rate. A similar concept is also practiced for example at FC Bayern Munich, VfL Wolfsburg or Hamburger SV, so that the season tickets are used in as many home games.
https://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/index.php?head=No-Show-Borussia-Dortmund-droht-mit-Dauerkartenentzug&folder=sites&site=news_detail&news_id=18078
 

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Dortmund ist calling...

Im still I love with stadiums next to the city center like Dortmund, Liverpool or Manchester. Here you can see the location of the Westfalenstadion. More Information about Dortmund - Klick

Lake Phoenix with Stadium (Borussia Dortmund) and TV Tower

Source: Kaufmann/ Bijan Yaghoubi
 

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Dortmund ist calling...

Im still I love with stadiums next to the city center like Dortmund, Liverpool or Manchester. Here you can see the location of the Westfalenstadion. More Information about Dortmund - Klick

Lake Phoenix with Stadium (Borussia Dortmund) and TV Tower

Source: Kaufmann/ Bijan Yaghoubi
Wouldn't say that either of the Manchester or Liverpool clubs were that close to the city centre.. Probably both 40-50 min walk.. St James Park is only 10 mins from the city centre though..
 

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I wouldn’t say that Westfalenstadion is especially close to the city centre either. Nor does its location feel particularly urban. It feels very open. Fair bit of parkland around. A little bit of low rise in the vicinity but that’s it. Great stadium, though.

Of the major stadia that I’ve been to, the Santiago Bernabeu and the Prinicpality Stadium, Cardiff and, yes, Newcastle’s St James’ Park have the best locations. They feel genuinely urban and surrounded by life and activity.
 

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Wouldn't say that either of the Manchester or Liverpool clubs were that close to the city centre.. Probably both 40-50 min walk.. St James Park is only 10 mins from the city centre though..
this is visual illusion, dortmund city centre is at least 3 miles away and stadium and the tower are much closer to each other and to the lake as well.
 

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I think it is 37,14m?!?!
Wow, what a great moderator you are, congrats!
would it be possible to have access to an image of the section plan of northern stand, where the mythological Yellow wall stands?
im part of the commission for the São Januario stadium’s renovation and in a pool performed in our social media channels, SDP was elected as the model to be followed.
if you could give this help it would much appreciate by me and our 20mi fans!
 

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^^ The Yellow Wall is on the Southern stand of the stadium. ;)
 
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