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klamedia said:
Their's no use Mohammad! Urbie has stated that an "auto-centric" society somehow makes you less urban. Going along with that formula the exponential amount of cars and those dependant on them would only make a place more and more less urban as those numbers increase. Therefore traffic-jams, the manifestation of an auto-dependant or at least auto-using society is the height of non-urbanism!!! Now tell me, what big city anywhere on planet earth is free of traffic??
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mohammed wong said:
i just didnt want the LA forumers to think that all chicagoans or chicago forumers were anti-LA, they are making progress in making it more of an urban environment, and it is an urban environment already, just different than what you are used to, yes it is car based, but it once did have excellent street car service,
perhaps you wouldnt be so anti-LA if firestone et. al. hadnt ripped out all of the street car lines, which was ofcourse retarded,

sorry to call you urbie, ;)
^Actually, I am fully aware that the LA area once had possible the largest public transportation system in the world.

Sorry that I got on you like that. It was 4-5 am when I wrote that, and I am currently on my Night Float rotation and the ED has been calling me with new admissions like every 30 minutes!
 

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The Urban Politician said:
^Actually, I am fully aware that the LA area once had possible the largest public transportation system in the world.

Sorry that I got on you like that. It was 4-5 am when I wrote that, and I am currently on my Night Float rotation and the ED has been calling me with new admissions like every 30 minutes!
yeah that is annoying, i can totally relate,
so i guess you are starting to interview for residencies,
i picked LA county USC, pretty cool residency was alot of fun,
i interviewed in newyork at newyork downtown hospital, which is a hole of a hospital and too many chinese patients go there, it would be fine if i spoke chinese, and i interviewed at st. vincents, which is a much better hospital and location, just didnt want to live in a shoebox for three years, ;)
i also interviewed at norwalk conneticut hospital, and umdnj in new brunswick and georgetown in dc, i pretty much went ballistics interviewing, cuz i figured this is my one chance to escaper the midwest for awhile,
i was pretty burned out on interviewing at the end, i interviewed at 14 hospitals for residency, which for internal medicine is kindof stupid and overkill,
i had nine places on my match list, i got my first pick of general hospital,
 

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Because this takes place in New York atop a well known skyscraper, has anyone seen "King Kong"? Any version? Does anyone else feel it to be quite a disturbing story that seems to remain popular, trans-generationaly?
 

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chicagogeorge said:
L.A.'s gowth is mainly suburban in nature, which is the trend of most major, established U.S. cities. Even so, revitalization of urban centers has also allowed for population stablization and modest increases in certain cities. (Chicago is one of them). L.A.' city growth so far this decade is impressive. If the estimates hold true (which I believe are undercounted), L.A. city will hit 4.2 million by 2010. The Greater Metro might 19 million. However, increased cost of living and skyrocketing real estate property prices, might push more and more people out of L.A. (It's happening now in the Bay Area).

No shyt, Californians are moving here to Florida fast as they can already.
 

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mohammed wong said:
yeah that is annoying, i can totally relate,
so i guess you are starting to interview for residencies,
i picked LA county USC, pretty cool residency was alot of fun,
i interviewed in newyork at newyork downtown hospital, which is a hole of a hospital and too many chinese patients go there, it would be fine if i spoke chinese, and i interviewed at st. vincents, which is a much better hospital and location, just didnt want to live in a shoebox for three years, ;)
i also interviewed at norwalk conneticut hospital, and umdnj in new brunswick and georgetown in dc, i pretty much went ballistics interviewing, cuz i figured this is my one chance to escaper the midwest for awhile,
i was pretty burned out on interviewing at the end, i interviewed at 14 hospitals for residency, which for internal medicine is kindof stupid and overkill,
i had nine places on my match list, i got my first pick of general hospital,

^ahem.... :)

I'm a third year resident already. I am actually interviewing for fellowships
 

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Catmendue2 said:
No shyt, Californians are moving here to Florida fast as they can already.
The house price is too high. Even Inland Empire beat all Florida cities.

Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario CA $387,300 24.3%

Jacksonville FL $187,000 18.7%
Sarasota-Bradenton-Venice FL $353,800 23.7%
Cape Coral-Fort Myers FL $277,600 42.5%
Gainesville FL $185,700 11.3%
Deltona-Daytona Beach-Ormond Beach FL $208,200 33.8%
Ocala FL $151,500 31.9%
Tampa-St.Petersburg-Clearwater FL $213,500 27.8%
Pensacola-Ferry Pass-Brent FL $175,500 31.2%
Tallahassee FL $163,700 5.2%
Orlando FL $261,300 44.8%
Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville FL $212,800 33.6%
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Miami Beach FL $386,600 28.9%

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/nar_3q05/
 

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Here is some interesting data off of the U.S. forum on density levels in various cities....

5 mile radius
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Los Angeles (2075, LA county)
Population: 1182577
Land Area: 76.4798 sq miles
Population Density: 15462.6 people / sq mile

San Francisco (117, SF county)
Population: 587261
Land Area: 34.4644 sq miles
Population Density: 17039.7 people / sq mile

Chicago (3203, Cook county)
Population: 770384
Land Area: 46.8594 sq miles
Population Density: 16440.3 people / sq mile

Boston (303, Suffolk county)
Population: 827294
Land Area: 56.859 sq miles
Population Density: 14549.9 people / sq mile

New York (13, NY county)
Population: 1915593
Land Area: 54.8853 sq miles
Population Density: 34901.8 people / sq mile

Philadelphia (5, Philadelphia county)
Population: 886440
Land Area: 69.7783 sq miles
Population Density: 12703.7 people / sq mile

10 mile radius
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Los Angeles (2075, LA county)
Population: 3449763
Land Area: 315.917 sq miles
Population Density: 10919.9 people / sq mile

San Francisco (117, SF county)
Population: 1396349
Land Area: 140.858 sq miles
Population Density: 9913.14 people / sq mile

Chicago (3203, Cook county)
Population: 2686858
Land Area: 177.305 sq miles
Population Density: 15153.9 people / sq mile

Boston (303, Suffolk county)
Population: 1661597
Land Area: 222.519 sq miles
Population Density: 7467.23 people / sq mile

New York (13, NY county)
Population: 6391931
Land Area: 258.322 sq miles
Population Density: 24744 people / sq mile

Philadelphia (5, Philadelphia county)
Population: 2132736
Land Area: 288.156 sq miles
Population Density: 7401.32 people / sq mile

15 mile radius
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Los Angeles (2075, LA county)
Population: 5829483
Land Area: 729.043 sq miles
Population Density: 7996.08 people / sq mile

San Francisco (117, SF county)
Population: 2069126
Land Area: 332.055 sq miles
Population Density: 6231.27 people / sq mile

Chicago (3203, Cook county)
Population: 3873802
Land Area: 385.062 sq miles
Population Density: 10060.2 people / sq mile

Boston (303, Suffolk county)
Population: 2244433
Land Area: 530.564 sq miles
Population Density: 4230.27 people / sq mile

New York (13, NY county)
Population: 10032731
Land Area: 534.633 sq miles
Population Density: 18765.6 people / sq mile

Philadelphia (5, Philadelphia county)
Population: 3031811
Land Area: 652.528 sq miles
Population Density: 4646.26 people / sq mile

20 mile radius
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Los Angeles (2075, LA county)
Population: 7840178
Land Area: 1053.18 sq miles
Population Density: 7444.27 people / sq mile

San Francisco (117, SF county)
Population: 2632924
Land Area: 671.937 sq miles
Population Density: 3918.41 people / sq mile

Chicago (3203, Cook county)
Population: 4770488
Land Area: 688.492 sq miles
Population Density: 6928.9 people / sq mile

Boston (303, Suffolk county)
Population: 2780497
Land Area: 941.3 sq miles
Population Density: 2953.89 people / sq mile

New York (13, NY county)
Population: 12019933
Land Area: 913.364 sq miles
Population Density: 13160.1 people / sq mile

Philadelphia (5, Philadelphia county)
Population: 3849296
Land Area: 1240.42 sq miles
Population Density: 3103.21 people / sq mile

30 mile radius
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Los Angeles (2075, LA county)
Population: 10591874
Land Area: 2392.55 sq miles
Population Density: 4427.02 people / sq mile

San Francisco (117, SF county)
Population: 3964487
Land Area: 1654.86 sq miles
Population Density: 2395.67 people / sq mile

Chicago (3203, Cook county)
Population: 6879365
Land Area: 1588.24 sq miles
Population Density: 4331.43 people / sq mile

Boston (303, Suffolk county)
Population: 3909385
Land Area: 2067.73 sq miles
Population Density: 1890.67 people / sq mile

New York (13, NY county)
Population: 14820904
Land Area: 2060.41 sq miles
Population Density: 7193.18 people / sq mile

Philadelphia (5, Philadelphia county)
Population: 5128965
Land Area: 2769.04 sq miles
Population Density: 1852.26 people / sq mile

40 mile radius
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Los Angeles (2075, LA county)
Population: 12488819
Land Area: 3667.76 sq miles
Population Density: 3405.03 people / sq mile

San Francisco (117, SF county)
Population: 5130643
Land Area: 2998.5 sq miles
Population Density: 1711.07 people / sq mile

Chicago (3203, Cook county)
Population: 8267630
Land Area: 2924.5 sq miles
Population Density: 2827.03 people / sq mile

Boston (303, Suffolk county)
Population: 5129207
Land Area: 3573.87 sq miles
Population Density: 1435.2 people / sq mile

New York (13, NY county)
Population: 16536460
Land Area: 3511.18 sq miles
Population Density: 4709.66 people / sq mile

Philadelphia (5, Philadelphia county)
Population: 6125828
Land Area: 4954.42 sq miles
Population Density: 1236.44 people / sq mile

50 mile radius
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Los Angeles (2075, LA county)
Population: 13826349
Land Area: 5526.85 sq miles
Population Density: 2501.67 people / sq mile

San Francisco (117, SF county)
Population: 6484900
Land Area: 4440.8 sq miles
Population Density: 1460.3 people / sq mile

Chicago (3203, Cook county)
Population: 8855920
Land Area: 4911.24 sq miles
Population Density: 1803.2 people / sq mile

Boston (303, Suffolk county)
Population: 6428517
Land Area: 5273.32 sq miles
Population Density: 1219.06 people / sq mile

New York (13, NY county)
Population: 18125529
Land Area: 5484.53 sq miles
Population Density: 3304.85 people / sq mile

Philadelphia (5, Philadelphia county)
Population: 7377175
Land Area: 7543.67 sq miles
Population Density: 977.93 people / sq mile

Source: factfinder.census.gov census tract data
 

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Thanx "Chicagogeorge" I always like the hard data, if I can understand it. So why are the radii different from the sq. mileage?
 

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See? Within a 50 mile radius LA is denser than New York. That means LA is a denser city! And obviously way denser than San Francisco. I mean, look at those numbers!
 

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See? Within a 50 mile radius LA is denser than New York. That means LA is a denser city! And obviously way denser than San Francisco. I mean, look at those numbers!
Is this a joke?

Do you really think if you live 50 miles from New York City you are still in the city?

What you see in those numbers is that NYC blows LA out of the water, it's not even close really, UNTIL you drive 50 miles away from center city, in which you aren't even near the city anymore and are way out in the suburbs! So LA's far flung suburbs are more dense than New York City's, and NYC as a city is several times more dense than Los Angeles. That's the only way you can interpret those numbers.

Chicago is also a clearly denser city when you look at those numbers. Metro Chicago is more dense until you drive 30 freaking miles away from center city! And I can tell you with certainty that if you are 30 miles from center city, you are NOT in the city of Chicago any longer and you are in good ole suburbia.
 

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The thing is that LA has a lot of room to spread out to , so the density is very low. The thing is that NYT doesn't have a lot of room, so there's not enough space to spread out so the density is higher. Same thing with San Fransisco.
 

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klamedia said:
Thanx "Chicagogeorge" I always like the hard data, if I can understand it. So why are the radii different from the sq. mileage?
L.A. gets denser than Chicago after about 20 miles outside the center. For Chicago that means you are well out of Cook county and into "true suburbia" by then (Dupage, Kane, Lake, Will, Mc Henry.......) For L.A., I assume you would be in maybe Long Beach or Aneheim? L.A. suburban lots are quite smaller than Chicago's suburbs, thus allowing for higher density levels the further out you go.

As for New York, both Chicago and L.A. cannot compare.........
 

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Westsidelife said:
I hope we're not implying that denser is necessarily better
Well of course not. Denser will only be better if it is accompanied by adequate mass transit, and a pedestrian freindly streetscape.
 

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L.A. gets denser than Chicago after about 20 miles outside the center.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Chicago is on the goddam waterfront? 50 miles out from chicago is water half the time.
 
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