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Blablabla... Dubai... making expensive plans but just like the big tower this one will also never be build.
The thing is that it might not get built at the moment, but I think there is absolutly no reason to think it will never be built...:eek:hno:
 
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Haven't they already starting construction?!? When it will be completed?
they wont build a huge tower like this in an enmpty naighborhood probally they wil start building in late 2020 when the mall and low rise buildings the tower still showing in the lastest masterplans so it still alive just guessing
 

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and in SA they also started building a tower... everybody knows what has happened...
Exept Dubai has allready shown they are able to finish big buildings... There is no reason to be so negativ, you cant expect them to built everything at once...:eek:hno::eek:hno:
 

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Haven't they already starting construction?!? When it will be completed?
The construction is for the mall only. The tower site is still a patch of empty, flat ground.

Exept Dubai has allready shown they are able to finish big buildings... There is no reason to be so negativ, you cant expect them to built everything at once...:eek:hno::eek:hno:
That may be, but it's been a decade or so since Dubai built its very tallest towers. All the buildings taller than 380 meters in Dubai started construction before the financial crisis of 2009. Since then, not a single proposed tower over 380 meters has come to fruition. If you count roof height only, the threshold is at 350 meters, as The Address Boulevard only reaches 370 meters because of a very tall pair of antennas. Buildings taller than that are proposed quite often, but their completion record is not particularly good.
 

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^^ Well many tall buildings have topped out recently .. SLS, Five ... and more are on the way AMA, Address, Primo, Wasl, 1 Zaabeel ... It is VERY impressive what dubai is achieving in its low market cycle .. because construction now is still better and higher than almost everywhere on earth.

"not a single proposed tower over 380 meters has come to fruition" really!! cities barely have 1 building above 300 and you are shaming Dubai for having only buildings up to 380? It doesn't make sense .. Dubai by any means is still far ahead from any other city when it comes to supertalls and this year only 2 were added to the list making the total 27 ... while the next city on the charts has only like 13 ..

I don't think there is real ground for you being disappointed in what Dubai is building.
 
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^^ Well many tall buildings have topped out recently .. SLS, Five ... and more are on the way AMA, Address, Primo, Wasl, 1 Zaabeel ... It is VERY impressive what dubai is achieving in its low market cycle .. because construction now is still better and higher than almost everywhere on earth.

"not a single proposed tower over 380 meters has come to fruition" really!! cities barely have 1 building above 300 and you are shaming Dubai for having only buildings up to 380? It doesn't make sense .. Dubai by any means is still far ahead from any other city when it comes to supertalls and this year only 2 were added to the list making the total 27 ... while the next city on the charts has only like 13 ..

I don't think there is real ground for you being disappointed in what Dubai is building.
It will hold N1 in 300m+ skyscrapers for a very very long time but too bad it lost N1 in 200m+easly to shenzhen
 

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I don't think there is real ground for you being disappointed in what Dubai is building.
I dunno, I don't really follow your reasoning here, because it's a bit like saying that if Usain Bolt runs a bad time, you'd say he still runs faster than Whoopi Goldberg. Of course he does, but should that be his standard?
 

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^^ My reasoning is the opposite of what you said actually ;)

Dubai in terms of population and history is "Whoopi Goldberg" and all the other megacities are "Usain Bolt" .. and for the last 20 years Dubai was crushing it in terms of construction and height and even now when it is in its low market cycle Dubai is still crushing the Usains of the world with most supertalls being built than anywhere else.
 

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^^ Well many tall buildings have topped out recently .. SLS, Five ... and more are on the way AMA, Address, Primo, Wasl, 1 Zaabeel ... It is VERY impressive what dubai is achieving in its low market cycle .. because construction now is still better and higher than almost everywhere on earth.

"not a single proposed tower over 380 meters has come to fruition" really!! cities barely have 1 building above 300 and you are shaming Dubai for having only buildings up to 380? It doesn't make sense .. Dubai by any means is still far ahead from any other city when it comes to supertalls and this year only 2 were added to the list making the total 27 ... while the next city on the charts has only like 13 ..

I don't think there is real ground for you being disappointed in what Dubai is building.
I merely point out that the people who think anything can be built in Dubai are severely overestimating the city. While the city quite rightly excels with buildings in the 300-350 m range, people tend to speak of Dubai as if it builds a new Megatall every month, and take every wild proposal at face value.

Dubai is certainly impressive, but there is a limit. There is a level of height that it too extravagant even for Dubai. The reality over the past ten years has been that every new proposed tower above 400 meters has tanked. There have been dozens of them, way more than in any other city in the world, and all but three have failed.

The discussion started by pdvd was about whether Dubai One is a realistic proposal. It's not. It is almost twice as tall as any successful project initiated after the financial crisis. A good 300 meters taller than the limit of economic viability.

So yes, while Dubai has built many Supertalls, its record with Megatalls is not as glorious. Exactly one building has been built with a height closer to the Megatall limit than the Supertall limit (450 m+), and that's Burj Khalifa. It famously required a bailout from Abu Dhabi to be completed. 11 other towers have been seriously proposed with the same height criteria (counting what CTBUH classifies as Visions, we're up to 30), and all of them have failed. The record suggests that Dubai One will too.
 

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I merely point out that the people who think anything can be built in Dubai are severely overestimating the city. While the city quite rightly excels with buildings in the 300-350 m range, people tend to speak of Dubai as if it builds a new Megatall every month, and take every wild proposal at face value.

Dubai is certainly impressive, but there is a limit. There is a level of height that it too extravagant even for Dubai. The reality over the past ten years has been that every new proposed tower above 400 meters has tanked. There have been dozens of them, way more than in any other city in the world, and all but three have failed.

The discussion started by pdvd was about whether Dubai One is a realistic proposal. It's not. It is almost twice as tall as any successful project initiated after the financial crisis. A good 300 meters taller than the limit of economic viability.

So yes, while Dubai has built many Supertalls, its record with Megatalls is not as glorious. Exactly one building has been built with a height closer to the Megatall limit than the Supertall limit (450 m+), and that's Burj Khalifa. It famously required a bailout from Abu Dhabi to be completed. 11 other towers have been seriously proposed with the same height criteria (counting what CTBUH classifies as Visions, we're up to 30), and all of them have failed. The record suggests that Dubai One will too.

Not sure about this part of your comment " people think that Dubai builds a new tall building every month "...


But many people do think that Dubai is rich and every one in Dubai is rich or atleast well to do. Of course we all know that is false. There are LOTS of underpaid workers. Some of them are abused and have their passports taken away. Sigh.
 

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Dear Kyll.Ing.
-Dubai needed a bailout because of a GLOBAL economic crisis
-Dubai can build megatall tower .. they HAVE the money for it .. it is just when to build it to turn the maximum profits from them.
-"people tend to speak of Dubai as if it builds a new Megatall every month" No one ever spoke this way! That's the first time I hear of it from YOU!
-Again you are stuck with 3 or 4 ideas you keep on repeating them, I already answered the same points you mentioned here 2 thousands time before so let's not do it again I don't have the time.
-But in case you wanted to repeat them yet again, please stay away from out of topic discussions.
 

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Depending on your definition of "on time", it's already way too late.

When was it supposed to open? Few months ago..


The bigger question is, how many apartments will be sold.. Is it going to be empty like many other buildings in the UAE? Remember a lot of them have lost their value.
 
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