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NZ Herald 2006/08/10

Carisbrook, the 130-year-old rugby ground in Dunedin, is to be abandoned in favour of a stadium costing up to $180 million in time for the 2011 Rugby World Cup.

The University of Otago will be a major financial partner in the multipurpose stadium, costing between $150 million and $180 million, planned to replace Carisbrook.

The venue is likely also to become the new home for the university's signature School of Physical Education.

The Carisbrook Stadium Trust announced last night that it had all but abandoned the option to upgrade Carisbrook in favour of replacing the stadium.

The announcement was expected, but the trust's coup was confirmation that the university would join the project, owning part of the stadium and contributing significant financing towards it.

The relationship will be the first of its kind for a stadium in New Zealand.

The announcement said the Otago Rugby Football Union would be the anchor tenant and the stadium would be the home for Otago and Highlanders rugby.

Day-to-day management of the stadium would lie with the trust, which intended attracting concerts, other sports outside of rugby, and seminars to the facility.

The facility could also create an opportunity to establish a New Zealand High Performance Sports Centre in Dunedin.

Trust chief executive Malcolm Farry said financial details were not complete, but the stadium could cost between $150 million and $180 million.

Plans could include capacity for up to 32,000 and for a roof, although that would depend on the cost.

Two waterfront sites in the vicinity of Logan Park were being considered, he said.

"It will revolutionise our city and create a new vibrancy to our region."

University vice-chancellor Professor David Skegg confirmed the university would put part of its $140 million capital expenditure towards the project.

The joint venture would solve problems for both the trust and university, he said.

Dunedin and southern New Zealand had faced a major decision about the future of Carisbrook and its continued status as a test venue.

The university has a capital development plan to alleviate serious space shortages for students. The time frames for the two issues were almost identical.

Dunedin-founded company Arrow International has agreed to conduct development management planning for the stadium and oversee two feasibility studies in the next eight months.

An international design competition will be held to come up with an "innovative" and cost-effective design.

It is expected the stadium would be completed by October 2010 and allow a full Super 14 rugby season to be played there before the World Cup.

A final decision on whether to go ahead with the project will be made at the completion of feasibility studies.

Mr Farry conceded the decision would ultimately depend on the availability of funding. While that had yet to be secured, he said sources would include the university, naming right sponsors, ground members, Community Trust of Otago, corporate sponsors, shares, bonds, and the Dunedin City Council and Otago Regional Council.

"This project hinges on the support of all our funding parties," Mr Farry said.

"If this isn't supported by the wider community and the city and regional councils, then it would be a significant obstacle."

He was adamant any council funding should come from existing capital expenditure and a re-evaluation of existing projects, rather than raising rates.

If the funding cannot be achieved, it is understood the trust would then revisit plans for upgrading Carisbrook, an option expected to cost $50 million.

Professor Skegg said the project was an exciting opportunity for the city to consider something more than a traditional sports stadium, which is unused for long periods.

A stadium complex including the university amenities would be a major drawcard for students coming to Dunedin, he said.

Bye, bye Brook

* Land once owned by the Presbyterian Church Board first used for cricket in the 1870s.

* Rugby, races and even a Gilbert and Sullivan opera staged at Carisbrook.

* Known in the rugby world as the House of Pain, after Otago's uncompromising play.



Otago Daily Times 2006/08/10

The University of Otago has agreed to be a major financial partner in a multipurpose stadium project, costing between $150 million-$180 million, planned to replace Carisbrook in time for the 2011 Rugby World Cup.

The site, on harbour-side land opposite Logan Park, is likely also to become the new home for the university’s School of Physical Education and could host other university departments.

The Carisbrook Stadium Trust announced at a function last night it had all but abandoned the option to upgrade Carisbrook in favour of replacing the 130-year-old stadium with a multipurpose venue.

The announcement had been anticipated, but the trust’s coup was confirmation the university would join forces in the project, owning part of the proposed stadium and contributing a significant amount of funding towards its development.

The relationship would be the first of its kind for a stadium in New Zealand.

The Otago Rugby Football Union would be the anchor tenant and the stadium would be the home for Otago and Highlanders rugby.

However, the day-to-day management of the stadium would lie with the trust, which intended attracting concerts, other sports outside of rugby, and seminars to the facility.

The facility could also create an opportunity to establish a New Zealand high performance sports centre in Dunedin.

Trust chief executive Malcolm Farry said financial details were yet to be finalised but the new stadium could cost between $150 million and $180 million.

Concept plans for the project could include capacity for up to 32,000 and for a roof, although that would ultimately depend on the cost.

Two waterfront sites in the vicinity of Logan Park were being considered.

“It is an exciting prospect. This project will revolutionise our city and create a new vibrancy to our region,” Mr Farry said.

University of Otago vicechancellor Prof David Skegg confirmed the university would assign a portion of its $140 million capital expenditure to the project.

The joint venture would alleviate issues for both the trust and university.

Dunedin and southern New Zealand faced a major decision about the future of Carisbrook and its continued status as a test venue.

The university is embarking on a capital development plan to alleviate serious space shortages for students. The time frames for the two issues were almost identical.

Dunedinfounded company Arrow International has agreed to conduct development management planning for the stadium project and oversee two feasibility studies during the next eight months.

An international design competition will be staged to come up with an “innovative” and cost-effective design for the stadium.

It is anticipated the stadium would be completed by October 2010 and allow a full Super 14 rugby season to be played on the surface before the Rugby World Cup.

A final decision on whether to go ahead with the project will be made at the completion of the feasibility studies.

Mr Farry conceded the decision would ultimately hinge on the availability of funding.

While that had yet to be secured, Mr Farry said sources would include the university, naming rights sponsors, ground members, the Community Trust of Otago, corporate sponsors, shares, bonds, plus contributions from the Dunedin City Council and Otago Regional Council.

“This project hinges on the support of all our funding parties,” Mr Farry said.

“If this isn’t supported by the wider community and the city and regional councils then it would be a significant obstacle to this and any other development.”

Mr Farry was adamant any council funding for the project should come from existing capital expenditure and a re-evaluation of existing projects, rather than raising rates.

“I’m not prepared to put that burden on ratepayers.”

If the funding cannot be achieved, it is understood the trust would then revisit upgrading Carisbrook, an option expected to cost $50 million.

Prof Skegg said the project was an exciting opportunity for the city to consider something more than a traditional sports stadium, which sits unused for long periods.

The university and trust have signed a memorandum of understanding to look at including appropriate academic or service units, and research and teaching facilities within the complex.
 

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Fantastic!! Go Dunedin Go.
 

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:applause: Best news of the month!! :carrot: :carrot: go the ginga carrots!!

Yeah saw this on the news, can't wait for concepts to come out, even though that prelim render looks teriffic.

Forget the roof, they should prioritise the capacity so its at least 32,000!! any less is a waste of time.
 

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Great news really stoked for Dunedin about this. Pity im on the move AGAIN back to Chch end of year
 

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Isnt this the oldest rugby ground in NZ and they want to 'abandon' the site? What happened to historic value Kiwis are so well-known for? And what is going to happen to Otago cricket til 2011?
 

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Isnt this the oldest rugby ground in NZ and they want to 'abandon' the site? What happened to historic value Kiwis are so well-known for? And what is going to happen to Otago cricket til 2011?
There is no historic value in Carisbrook. Its a hotch potch, messy, ugly stadium in the middle of an industrial area.
This new location will be much beter and a new stadium will revitalise major sports events in Dunedin.
 

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Isnt this the oldest rugby ground in NZ and they want to 'abandon' the site? What happened to historic value Kiwis are so well-known for? And what is going to happen to Otago cricket til 2011?
Historic value in NZ!? what about Athletic Park in Wellington it got the wrecking ball!!, Carlaw Park in Auckland was the spiritual home of NZ rugby league now its a bloody retirement home!! and now Carisbrook "The house of pain" and all of the great All Black victories and the aura of invincibility they had at "The Brook" is going to be levelled - quite sad really, we don't have any historical value left in us do we!! But i guess its progress.

One point though, I think one of the main reasons the All Blacks have been unbeatable at "The Brook" is because its so damn cold and hostile, and now they want to put a roof over the new stadium, what not a better way to level the playing feild!!
 

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Had a chat with family in Dunedin. Doesnt sound like anyone will be crying over the old Carisbrook. The new stadium will continue to carry the name. I think public support is high for the new stadium. Cant wait to see some renderings
 

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Had a chat with family in Dunedin. Doesnt sound like anyone will be crying over the old Carisbrook. The new stadium will continue to carry the name. I think public support is high for the new stadium. Cant wait to see some renderings
The very small concept picture looked good. I think Dunedin might end up with the best ground in NZ and it would be great if out of the big 4, Dunedin developed and housed a national sports acadamey or whatever people want to call it - this would be fantastic for the city and the region.

In regards to the stadium name, I think it's great that they would still call it Carisbrook. I remember when Lancaster Park became Jade, people were really upset with the loss of name for many different reasons, it was like lossing a little piece of local history. Good on Dunedin and Auckland for maintaining there historic names. I'm not sure what the Cake Tins offical name is, but Athletic Park does house some amazing memories. I'm glad part of the World Cup rules are that stadiums are not to have the names of corperate sponsors and alike.

Dunedin - Carisbrook
Auckland - Eden Park
Wellington - ?
Christchurch - ?
 

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Isnt Wellington the Westpac Trust Stadium?
ooooohhhhhh yeah.....
 

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University Supports Concept Of Multi-Use Stadium

Thursday, 10 August 2006, 9:58 am

Press Release: University of Otago

The University of Otago strongly supports further development of the concept of a multi-use stadium complex alongside the campus.

University Vice-Chancellor Professor David Skegg says the University will be working with the Carisbrook Stadium Trust over the coming months to investigate the feasibility of such a facility.

Acting under a Memorandum of Understanding, the University and Trust will examine the feasibility of including appropriate academic or service units, and research and teaching facilities within the stadium complex.

“We are starting this process with an open mind about the final form of the new complex, but I do believe that a multi-use facility located next to the city’s tertiary education campuses is the best option for the future,” Professor Skegg says. “By voicing our support at this early stage, we hope to allow this option to be pursued through to the next, more detailed phase of development.”

Professor Skegg says the opportunity to look at the future of the stadium in this innovative way has come about through a combination of circumstances. “On the one hand, Dunedin and southern New Zealand face a major decision about the future of Carisbrook. On the other, the University is embarking on a capital development plan to alleviate serious space shortages. The time frames for resolving these two separate issues are almost identical.

“This provides us with an exciting opportunity to consider a facility that would be far more than a traditional sports stadium, which would tend to be unused for much of the year.”

The University would assign a portion of its capital development expenditure to this project. While some University funds might be used for dual purpose spaces – such as seminar rooms, which could double as corporate entertainment areas – Professor Skegg says that the University involvement could not extend to any investment in “seats or turf” at the stadium.

“While the University is still some way from confirming which areas of its operations might be based at a new facility, there are some obvious candidates to consider.

“Such a facility would, for example, provide a possible site for a new School of Physical Education, accompanied by further developments in the areas of human performance and sports. Similarly, a research cluster in nutrition, activity and health might find it advantageous to be based at such a facility, especially if other complementary activities were also located there. Other areas to be considered include exercise and activity clinics to meet community health needs, and student recreation facilities.

“A stadium complex including University amenities would also be a major drawcard for students coming to Dunedin, especially as this would complement planned developments of the sport and recreation facilities at Logan Park.”
 

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Reading the local ODT most people in Dunedin are for it to go ahead sounds pretty promising that it will. Plus the train goes staright past the site of where they want to build which is good cause the road system there I dont think could handle the increased amount that the ground will produce.
 

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Eh? What good is the train going to be? The rail line also passes the existing Carisbrook but what difference does that make?
The roads around Logan Park are no less than what you have at the existing stadium. I dont see a problem. In fact it will be in walking distance for the thousands of scarfies that will be attending the matches there.
 

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When you say walking distance, does that mean the new stadium will be close to the city centre (I don't know Dunedin well)? Will it be something like the Cake Tin in Welly.
 

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It will be about 1.7 km from the city centre. The student quater and university are within a few 100 metres of the new stadium. The university wants to locate some of its departments on site (the Uni will partly fund the stadium) and there is even talk of a possible hotel on the site as well.
Its a top location!
and it will be better than Welly's cake tin. If the plan goes ahead as proposed it will be NZ's most advanced sporting facility.
 

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Eh? What good is the train going to be? The rail line also passes the existing Carisbrook but what difference does that make?
The roads around Logan Park are no less than what you have at the existing stadium. I dont see a problem. In fact it will be in walking distance for the thousands of scarfies that will be attending the matches there.
Yes but the students would only make up about 30-40% of the crowd numbers. Plus they all walk to the game at carisbrook and hit the town after that so car usage would stay the same. But if you have the rest of that 60-70% of people going to the northern end of Dunedin at once with no real major roads around unlike carisbrook which has the motorway running next to it you will have problems getting everyone there and leaving. Also the only main road in that area is the road to port chalmers which is busy 24/7 due to freight travel in and out of the port.Having public transport near a modern sporting venue is a huge bonus these days. Also the train track that goes past the brook has been there for years way before the time of needing public transport for sport as you can see how it sits way above the ground smack bang up agaisnt the motorway plus the many roads that go under it so they could never make that a public station. But out at logan park the ground is mostly flat and screaming for development and having a train station there will give access to nearly the hole dunedin. I think it would be a great idea and the roading round there aint that great.

To daves question where they propose to build the new stadium is north of the city and on the northern edge of the uni about 5 minutes drive form the cbd and about 5 mins max walk for all the students and also on the main road to Port Chalmers.
 

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32 000...isnt that rather small still? whats the size of the biggest in NZ? Then again how big is Dunedin, maybe 32 000 is big for it...sorry i dont know much about the town/city.
 
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