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Emerging Kerala is planned as a biennial Global Connect, the first being 'Emerging Kerala 2012' scheduled to be held from 12th – 14th September 2012 at Le Meridien Convention Centre, Kochi, Kerala. The Hon'ble Prime Minister of India, Manmohan Singh would inaugurate the three-day investment summit.

The event is organised by the Kerala State Industrial Development Corporation (KSIDC) with the support of the Government of Kerala (GoK), in addition to various Trade and Industrial bodies. The Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) and National Association of Software & Services Companies (NASSCOM) are event partners.


Website: www.emergingkerala2012.org
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If you felt so that is your problem. Nowhere we mentioned Kochi. It is you bringing Kochi into the picture. We were telling about the false claim by CM about the VW project. You only mentioned that VW project is coming up in both Kochi and Trivandrum.



If the project is losing it is lost for Trivandrum also. Then how it is against only Kochi ? :nuts:
Guys, don't close eyes and say its night.... How many reports here posted, all pin pointing indirectly to proposed Investment in Kochi.... Yes, you may not used the word Kochi. But none of us are fools, that we don't understand the intention....

Did I say, VW lost only for KOCHI.... I was questioning the attitude seeing the joy of few members.....
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Let me get this right, you are saying the Kovalam Palace is getting converted to a convention center?
Not me who said so... Former IT Advisor, said the same in News hour, while bashing Emerging Kerala. He said clearly, he came to know an information that RP group is developing the center in Kovalam Palace Grounds, to legitimize the claims of the company, along with support of UDF Govt...

None of us, posted the clip here, as we donot feel any truth or value to such bashing....

I myself in opinion, Kovalam Palace must remain with RP group and highlighted as world class hotel, than opinions of an old man, who has no idea what historical value it has, when many other historical properties are rotting in our state......
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But few forumers are believes and forced to make others believe all in the world are against it... What can we say for that? Many among them are under impression, the entire Indian ports will be closed, when this one comes, so all are against it.... What to say.... To be very specific, a large chunk believes, Kochi is going to be hit hard, when it becomes reality.
Cutting through the evident confusion of the plural and the singular, and of the vernacular, you are alleging that some forumers believe that all Indian ports will be chased out of the market by a single project? Could you please point out instances of such outlandish claims before making such references here?

The truth of the matter is that Vizhinjam, with its depth, location and its expected operational efficiency, is meant to compete with regional transshipment hubs and to help our nation save precious resources that are being lost through inefficient logistics. It's meant to make Indian ports and India stronger, not weaker.

Kindly refrain from insinuating things that no one is implicitly or explicitly saying.

As to the bogus VW plant, no one even said that it's going to be located at City A or B. So the exposure of the bogus claim to be such should not affect any particular set of interests, rather it's a king-size dent on the rapidly crumbling credibility of the event and its proponents. I see no reason for anyone to feel slighted or no sense of loss over something that was never there in the first place!

Rather you ire should be directed against folks who deliberately mislead the general public who foot the bill for the entire shabang!
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Out of the 40,000K, only 650K is for the capital city. Means, < 2% of the proposed investment is for capital. Very very pathetic. This can happen only in Kerala.:badnews:
Healthier competition between cities is good. But politics and lobbying are very rude.

Initially, somebody pointed out that the capital city got the maximum number of projects listed in the EK website. Now what happened???
Capital city's share is very negligible. We all expected that things will happen in this way only.

The main beneficiary is Ernakulam district, which is the favourite place of the ministry itself. Around 70% of the investment is for ernakulam district alone.

Kozhikkode & malappuram districts come next.

It is unbelievable to hear that the IT capital doesn't get a single investment proposal in the IT sector.
We all know that the Technopark Phase II & Technocity are big projects.
As an established IT capital, investors surely know about the advantages of Trivandrum. So if there are no proposals for TVM, it means that these projects were not at all showcased in EK or the government didn't highlight them enough.
So there is surely a joint effort to sabotage the projects or place them in cold storage for some period of time. When some one asks about them, govt. can say that land acquisition is delayed due to local protests.
So things become much more clearer on how the capital city is being sidelined.

Next heavy blow is that the much awaited and prospective Vizhinjam container transshipment terminal was no where in the scene.
From the example of Ernakulam district and other surrounding districts, it is clearly evident that a port is inevitable for the development of a region.
By means of port, import of raw materials and export of final products can be done. Once a container terminal becomes operational, ancillary industries will surely come. This will not only benefit trivandrum, but the surrounding districts also.
If Vizhinjam project was already completed, I am sure that Trivandrum could have get much more investments than the present.
So everybody understood that if the port doesn't materialise, the development of the city will be staggered. That is why there were so many controversies and delays in materializing the project. There are sabotaging from local as well as global players.

How foolish can a person be, in order to think like, "Vizhinjam cannot be considered as a major port" (whereas a port like Azheekkal can be).
Most of the major ports including Kochi are build by heavy dredging.
Vizhinjam has the natural depth more than enough for a new generation container/cruise ship. Also, the place is nearer to the international shipping route. Investor has a great cost saving in the dredging and considering the projected traffic, it would be profitable for the developer as well as the company that is going to run the operations. Also, government will get a huge share of the income and profits as government will be having a major share in the project. In spite of all these advantages, the project has not become fruitful and no body has evinced interest in the same. This is something hard to digest.:dunno:

Poovar shipyard and ship repairing facility by CSL also went to freezer. At the same time, CSL declared a ship repairing facility in Kochi.
Now CSL is a Mini-Ratna company. Currently they are planning to go for Navaratna status. For that one of the criteria is that, it should have facilities spread across places. So in order to do that, they planned for a facility @ Vizhinjam/Poovar. I don't know why they backed out.

According to government, EK is a huge success. But the capital city is a huge loser. It got a big ZERO.
Looks at Kerala government budgets ..TVM gets most..in this what ever came to Calicut and Malappuram is from private investors..with ready to start land..It is good to see Calicut and Malappuram attracts private investors...
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None of the projects need something like Emerging Kerala. The PSU projects like BPCL, KRML, Petronet etc were already announced earlier. Things like new hotels, hospitals etc starts every year across various cities and towns in Kerala. Why do we need so much hype for that.

Then there are some udayippu projects like township in the name of IT. Those are fake real estate projects. We have seen many such announcement but nothing materialized.

Only thing worth the hype was the Volkswagen units. That too appeared to be a fake announcement. The money spend on this scam called Emerging Kerala could have been used for Macadam tarring at least half a dozen district roads.
Aslesh, Did anyone told EK was an Investment meet? It was B2B meet and a meet where Investors look out for potential investments... They have explored several ideas and its upto to them to sign up or not.... It not any GIM, where they announce projects and sign MOUs....

Yes, BPCL announced Petrochemicals project, some 5 years ago. But it signed its business partner, an Oman based company to develop an Aquilite complex only as part of EK discussions. They might soon sign another deal with a potential company, to manage its upcoming Thermal plant.

In this way, there are several projects in proposal stage. Its just a first step. Why should it viewed with negativity.....

Yes, definitely in VW's issue its a terrible mistake, if the CM done fake. It could be even his Waterloo, as it affects the creditably. But we should not generalize it all
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mohammedirshad06 said:
Yes, I quoted.... And said so, because we are seeing regular bashing for all projects, especially the ones proposed in Kochi here commonly.... Naturally when the news that VW is considering TVM also, should be welcome for you guys, isn't it?

I didn't see any such bash for any other place or even for your own home city....Do you think, we don't have any examples to bash? We do restrain.....

For example, a former IT Advisor who played a key role in last govt's IT policy, was bashing RP group's plans to establishing Convention Center in TVM, saying Ravi Pillai is doing the same in Kovalam palace land in Asianet News Hour. Did anyone of us, posted the report here and bash it.... I didn't see any of you guys doing the same....

Most of us, are open for all investments, be it in TVM or Kochi or Calicut or Wayanad.... I see only a few bashes projects here, regular basis that too located out of their home city. Naturally there is a limit to anything
Are you out of your mind? Who's bashed Kochi here? False, bogus projects are criticised by all and sundry, but even then no one mentioned or bashed Kochi or it's pet projects. Lastly, the Criticism was on our 'super honest' CM
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I myself in opinion, Kovalam Palace must remain with RP group and highlighted as world class hotel, than opinions of an old man, who has no idea what historical value it has, when many other historical properties are rotting in our state......
Have you and yourself seen this Palace? Do you honestly that such a small structure, which is a glorified bungalow at best, can be converted into a world-class hotel?

The question here is about the intricacies of the lease which has now changed hands many a time, starting with the Galfar Group way back in the era of the NDA Government's privatization drive.

Btw, you are free to post news clips and opinions just as the next guy. The only thing is that I see just an opinion of one side in this issue, not a total falsehood as announced with great fanfare by an elected Government and its elected Leader.

No one's bashing any project or city here, despite the evident accumulation of evidence that there may be a well-orchestrated land grab in progress under the cover of this event. What's being criticized is the way that the event itself and its outcome are being portrayed. As the CM and the Honorable Governor of Maharashtra said at the valedictory function last evening, "constructive criticism" should be welcomes. This will prevent this sort of thing happening again.

Of course, if some folks bet their house on this and got burnt along with its credibility, that's their poor choice not anybody else's fault. I hope we arw square on this now? :)
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Have you and yourself seen this Palace? Do you honestly that such a small structure, which is a glorified bungalow at best, can be converted into a world-class hotel?

The question here is about the intricacies of the lease which has now changed hands many a time, starting with the Galfar Group way back in the era of the NDA Government's privatization drive.

Btw, you are free to post news clips and opinions just as the next guy. The only thing is that I see just an opinion of one side in this issue, not a total falsehood as announced with great fanfare by an elected Government and its elected Leader.

No one's bashing any project or city here, despite the evident accumulation of evidence that there may be a well-orchestrated land grab in progress under the cover of this event. What's being criticized is the way that the event itself and its outcome are being portrayed. As the CM and the Honorable Governor of Maharashtra said at the valedictory function last evening, "constructive criticism" should be welcomes. This will prevent this sort of thing happening again.

Of course, if some folks bet their house on this and got burnt along with its credibility, that's their poor choice not anybody else's fault. I hope we arw square on this now? :)
Dear Ajay,

Was it me who said so? Why don't you advise the man who said it? I myself have stayed a couple of times in Kovalam's Haylcon Palace and hence you don't need to teach me... I forgot that man's name. He was former IT Advisor to Achumma. And it was he who said so....

Well, I definitely have against that man as well as old man's viewpoints of takeover of the structure by Govt. Its already a world class hotel and well known brand. One old man wants it to be a historical museum? What historical value it has? It was mere Honeymoon palace of Rani Karthika Thirunal and her Husband GV Raja... Should the state make a Romantic Museum considering the historical romance? Thats my personal opinion

But none of guys here posted this news clip, here, while bashing EK... Whereas we saw many here, all aimed at Kochi.....Since I don't believe in bashing, I will not post any such, be it in TVM or Kochi or Calicut..... Afterall these are mere allegations and we need investments, not allegations
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Irshad said:
Looks at Kerala government budgets ..TVM gets most..in this what ever came to Calicut and Malappuram is from private investors..with ready to start land..It is good to see Calicut and Malappuram attracts private investors...
Please don't shoot blanks. Just show me where the budgetary allocations are in favor of TVM.
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Are you out of your mind? Who's bashed Kochi here? False, bogus projects are criticised by all and sundry, but even then no one mentioned or bashed Kochi or it's pet projects. Lastly, the Criticism was on our 'super honest' CM
Raj, everyone knows the real intention of bashing. We see only posts of negativity, related to Kochi or other places, when it comes from your side.... Maybe you didn't use the word Kochi.... But we definitely can understand intentions....And also the reason why OC being criticized, because UDF is keen to invest more in Central Kerala, isn't it? While Achuamma hailed because he didn't invest anything much in Central Kerala. We definitely can understand dear.
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Aslesh, Did anyone told EK was an Investment meet? It was B2B meet and a meet where Investors look out for potential investments... They have explored several ideas and its upto to them to sign up or not.... It not any GIM, where they announce projects and sign MOUs....
Well, they started by calling it an investment meet, and then probably a case of feetus coldus Keralacus developed and it was re-branded as an "investor awareness" program. In fact, the event's own website states that it is "your opportunity to explore, invest and establish your business interests in Kerala"

An investor meet is not a bad idea, but it should be properly planned with a select set of well researched and presented proposals. It may be noted that not even a single proposal put forward by the Government and its agencies months in advance seem to have garnered private investment. The vast majority, and across district lines, seem to be real estate projects which were pre-packaged and conveniently unwrapped at the event.

Not that I am against real estate development, I'd be the last person to say so. Projects of any sort are welcome, and SSC will be the richer for a few marque projects to talk about. Provided they actually happen and not fall by the wayside like the dozens of supposed "mega" projects that we have discussed to death here.
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Guys, don't close eyes and say its night.... How many reports here posted, all pin pointing indirectly to proposed Investment in Kochi.... Yes, you may not used the word Kochi. But none of us are fools, that we don't understand the intention....

Did I say, VW lost only for KOCHI.... I was questioning the attitude seeing the joy of few members.....
Why you are generalizing? I just told about VW project. Can you point out any post from me bashing any other project in Kochi?

Volkswagen announces setting up 2 Units in Kerala. Two Engine Assembling and overhaul unit will be set up in Kochi and Trivandrum. MOU with govt will be signed with Govt soon.

Now, for some, this news would be partially okay, I suppose:lol:
It is you who started bashing indirectly.Are you a privileged member in SSC who has the right for bashing? Don't act smart.
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Was it me who said so? Why don't you advise the man who said it? I myself have stayed a couple of times in Kovalam's Haylcon Palace and hence you don't need to teach me...
Dear Irshad, I assume that you meant the Halcyon Palace? Well, good for you. Even more surprising that you believe it has the scale to become a hotel or convention center. Perhaps a couple of suite rooms or a mini-museum.

But none of guys here posted this news clip, here, while bashing EK... Whereas we saw many here, all aimed at Kochi.....Since I don't believe in bashing, I will not post any such, be it in TVM or Kochi or Calicut..... Afterall these are mere allegations and we need investments, not allegations
Perhaps, because a clip with a former adviser to a former CM talking about a small little project pales in insignificance to a clip about how the current CM apparently misled the entire State about a supposed marque investment worth thousands of Crores?

It so happened that the same was tagged with a particular city, which no one protested at the time. Only when it went down in flames, did protests about city-focused criticism come up.

So in short - if it's good, I want it, if it sucks, let the neighbor have it?! Aren't we implying double standards here? I could be wrong....
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Well, they started by calling it an investment meet, and then probably a case of feetus coldus Keralacus developed and it was re-branded as an "investor awareness" program. In fact, the event's own website states that it is "your opportunity to explore, invest and establish your business interests in Kerala"

An investor meet is not a bad idea, but it should be properly planned with a select set of well researched and presented proposals. It may be noted that not even a single proposal put forward by the Government and its agencies months in advance seem to have garnered private investment. The vast majority, and across district lines, seem to be real estate projects which were pre-packaged and conveniently unwrapped at the event.

Not that I am against real estate development, I'd be the last person to say so. Projects of any sort are welcome, and SSC will be the richer for a few marque projects to talk about. Provided they actually happen and not fall by the wayside like the dozens of supposed "mega" projects that we have discussed to death here.
In my knowledge, they called the meet as Investors Meet right from beginning.... They used to say, its meant for investors to explore and invest. Whereas GIM was meant to garner investments from the govt's end. This time, it was more of investors to explore themselves thro' B2B....

Then most of mega projects as announced by GoK cannot be achieved on day one. It definitely require more concrete approach and more time. Say PCICR, can commence, only when Govt acquires atleast half of the land. By this time, a much larger refinery will provide an ecosystem to do so and investors will come. None of us, was expecting within 3 days, we will hear Shell, BP etc taking over PCICR....

Unless we start somewhere, nothing can be done.....
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Looks at Kerala government budgets ..TVM gets most..i
Here we go again, what munificence in the budget are you referring to? Better leave that can of worms unopened.
mohammedirshad06 said:
Raj, everyone knows the real intention of bashing. We see only posts of negativity, related to Kochi or other places, when it comes from your side.... Maybe you didn't use the word Kochi.... But we definitely can understand intentions....And also the reason why OC being criticized, because UDF is keen to invest more in Central Kerala, isn't it? While Achuamma hailed because he didn't invest anything much in Central Kerala. We definitely can understand dear.
Why OC is criticised, because he's lied to entire malayalees.

Tell me which project of Kochi is criticised here apart from VW?
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In my knowledge, they called the meet as Investors Meet right from beginning....
Yet, you questioned Aslesh earlier on the same point.

Aslesh, Did anyone told EK was an Investment meet?
So which is it?

Then most of mega projects as announced by GoK cannot be achieved on day one. It definitely require more concrete approach and more time.
I didn't expect someone to plonk down a suitcase (or container) of cash and pick up Vizhinjam or the State's bullet train madness but the point is that even the smaller projects in the Government's list have failed to garner EoIs, forget outright investment proposals.
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Dear Irshad, I assume that you meant the Halcyon Palace? Well, good for you. Even more surprising that you believe it has the scale to become a hotel or convention center. Perhaps a couple of suite rooms or a mini-museum.
Ajay, when did I say, I believe it will convention center? Its not me, but that guy who said so.... Secondly he said, the site is planned in Halcyon castle grounds... The controversial property land, not the structure. Well, I cannot opinion on his behalf.......

Yes, its currently part of Leela Hotel.... The suites in this bungalow, forms the most premium block.... I still believe, it must be retained as same, as its already a brand icon.......


Perhaps, because a clip with a former adviser to a former CM talking about a small little project pales in insignificance to a clip about how the current CM apparently misled the entire State about a supposed marque investment worth thousands of Crores?

It so happened that the same was tagged with a particular city, which no one protested at the time. Only when it went down in flames, did protests about city-focused criticism come up.

So in short - if it's good, I want it, if it sucks, let the neighbor have it?! Aren't we implying double standards here? I could be wrong....
Surprised... This attitude you talk, is mostly seen in one sect of sub-forum and its forumers, against which I am criticizing now...Good to see, you realized the basic genes which you might be familiar.......Thanks for joining with me.....
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Looks at Kerala government budgets ..TVM gets most..in this what ever came to Calicut and Malappuram is from private investors..with ready to start land..It is good to see Calicut and Malappuram attracts private investors...
What is wrong in getting more state funds for the its capital city.
Chennai gets more in TN budget.
Bangaluru gets more in Karnataka Budget.
Is Coventry /Birmingham gets more than London Metropolis.
But in Kerala it is the other way around.Please look at the Proposals from Govt. of India for the last couple of days.But they will still say thay the revenue is being generated from private sector.

Look at this EK. Why all the govt. Machinery have bee moved to another city for 3 days for EK funfair neglecting all the grievances of the entire state.
Why this govt. Is always sidelining the capital city.
Look in 4 months time Pravaasi bharathiya divas celebration is coming in Another city in the state and I am telling you these pranchiyettans will be the major attractions there also.

Oommen chandy must be happy as he could organise cabinet meeting out of Tvm at least for 3 days.
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Surprised... This attitude you talk, is mostly seen in one sect of sub-forum and its forumers, against which I am criticizing now...Good to see, you realized the basic genes which you might be familiar.......Thanks for joining with me.....
You assume too much buddy, I didn't join you on your quest to foist charges on anyone. Instead, my point - and which you seem to have missed - is that one shouldn't bask in the limelight when things seem to be going good and then scarper for cover at the first sign of trouble. It applies to everyone not just a "sect" or sub-sect of your choosing.
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