[ChrisZwolle]

A new road opened to traffic today on the outskirts of Bordeaux, a realignment of D1 near Taillan-Médoc. It is approximately 7 kilometers long. This makes it possible to travel to the peninsula west of the Gironde without having to travel on surface streets of the Bordeaux metro area.

Location of project: OpenStreetMap

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1596546086847811584

 

[MichiH]

^^ I think it's partially D1215E1. The southern segment is likely an unsigned "route Métropolitaines" though.

 

[MichiH]

The connection to the existing D1215E1 didn't look advanced on May 2022 GSV. Maybe just the segment from the roundabout to the south has been opened?

 

[cuartango]

Regarding Bordeaux, is there any plan to build a second beltway in the south? I remember having lots of traffic trying to travel south to nort (for example, traffic from Hendaye to Paris).

 

[Bastiaan85]

Not really, the current strategy is to increase capacity on the existing infrastructure. They will finish widening the west side of the A630 beltway next year, and there are substantial plans to increase the capacity at the north side, including the final section of the A10.

 

[cuartango]

Not really, the current strategy is to increase capacity on the existing infrastructure. They will finish widening the west side of the A630 beltway next year, and there are substantial plans to increase the capacity at the north side, including the final section of the A10.

Thanks. I like that approach, it is reasonably cheap and it will probably help. I can see in google maps that they will go from 2x2 to 3x3. I suppose that building a new betlway will also require a new bridge over Garone river and that would be really expensive.

 

[Bastiaan85]

Not to mention the local environmental issues you have to tackle, like crossing Natura 2000 area's. I must add the beltway and connecting parts are bottlenecks but imho not in such a dramatic way that an extra beltway would be warranted. Also you can't get more traffic from Spain than what passes through the 2x3 of the A-63 of course. And even less at the moment as the final part northwards from Salles is only 2x2 for the time being.

 

[Fane40]

Thanks. I like that approach, it is reasonably cheap and it will probably help. I can see in google maps that they will go from 2x2 to 3x3. I suppose that building a new betlway will also require a new bridge over Garone river and that would be really expensive.

The politicians of the region as well as professionals have been talking about it for more than 20 years. The best would be to build a bypass from the exit of the A 660 through the south and east of Bordeaux. This would connect the A62 towards the southeast, the A89 towards the east, the free N10 taken by a lot of trucks and end at the A10 to the north.
The problem remains the budget with two bridges to be built over the Garonne and the Dordogne rivers as well as the crossing of vineyards (but far from being the best ones of the region). With of course the opposition of the residents. The region has become very attractive, unfortunately for us. Population and prices have exploded.

 

[cuartango]

The politicians of the region as well as professionals have been talking about it for more than 20 years. The best would be to build a bypass from the exit of the A 660 through the south and east of Bordeaux. This would connect the A62 towards the southeast, the A89 towards the east, the free N10 taken by a lot of trucks and end at the A10 to the north.

Can you draw that on a map please?

 

[Fane40]

Can you draw that on a map please?

you can see page 3 and 6 but whole file for explanations (in french)

http://autorout.free.fr/3_Cartes/6_Sud_ouest/bordeaux/Dossier_support-chapitre_3_cle17116b%5B1%5D.pdf

map on this page:

Contournement autoroutier de Bordeaux

ou plutôt… Le grand contournement des problèmes de transport… ou encore… Le développement durable du "tout camion"… Vous pouvez vous renseigner sur le projet de contournement autoroutier de…

www.sepanso.org

 

[ChrisZwolle]

Pas de l'Escalette is a mountain pass of former N9 in Southern France. Hard to believe this was the main road to Millau until A75 opened in 1994!


N9 Pas de l'Escalette 02 by European Roads, on Flickr


N9 Pas de l'Escalette 04 by European Roads, on Flickr


N9 Pas de l'Escalette 06 by European Roads, on Flickr


N9 Pas de l'Escalette 07 by European Roads, on Flickr


N9 Pas de l'Escalette 08 by European Roads, on Flickr


N9 Pas de l'Escalette 09 by European Roads, on Flickr


N9 Pas de l'Escalette 12 by European Roads, on Flickr

 

[ChrisZwolle]

A declaration of public utility (DUP) has been issued to expand N57 through Besançon to a four lane expressway. This is a 3.5 km segment between L'Amitié and Beure, including the bridge across the Doubs River.

The current N57 is mostly a two-lane road with grade separation, except for a short four lane segment between two interchanges which has a pedestrian crossing with traffic lights.

At Beure, there is a roundabout with the southern bypass of Besançon (also N57) and N83, both roads have significant elevation changes when climbing out of the Doubs Valley.

Besançon. Mise à 2x2 voies de la RN 57 : le préfet vient de signer l’arrêté d’utilité publique

C’est l’épilogue d’un long feuilleton. Le préfet du Doubs, Jean-François Colombet, a signé ce mercredi l’arrêté déclarant d’utilité publique les travaux d’aménagement de la RN57. L’objectif : achever le contournement de Besançon entre les boulevards et la commune de Beure.

www.estrepublicain.fr

 

[sponge_bob]

I have a notion this might need a tunnel like the one on the southern bypass of Besancon and even the canal tunnel on the river Doubs itself that goes under the Citadel.

A declaration of public utility (DUP) has been issued to expand N57 through Besançon to a four lane expressway. This is a 3.5 km segment between L'Amitié and Beure, including the bridge across the Doubs River.

 

[ChrisZwolle]

A 2.4 km segment of D3508 (Rocade d'Annecy) has been upgraded to a 2x2 voie express. This is northwest of Annecy, between D1508 and D1201.

This was a single carriageway express road that previously carried 33,000 vehicles per day on just two lanes. The still two-lane western ring road is even busier with 40,000 vehicles per day.

Les aménagements de la RD 3508 Nord ont été inaugurés.

Le Conseil départemental de la Haute-Savoie a lancé, sous l’ancien mandat, des travaux d’envergure sur la RD 3508 Nord entre Annecy et Epagny Metz-Tessy. Afin d’améliorer sa capacité elle est désormais portée à 2 x 2 voies sur 2, 4 km, entre l’échangeur de Gillon et l’échangeur de l’Hôpital. Les...

actu.hautesavoie.fr

 

[Voineinfo]

Regarding Bordeaux, is there any plan to build a second beltway in the south? I remember having lots of traffic trying to travel south to nort (for example, traffic from Hendaye to Paris).

In the curent anti-automobile, anti-big infrastructure climate of France, it's a big NON.

The Green mayor of Bordeaux is instead planning to build a cable car over the Garonne River. 🤡

Cable cars are the new craze in French cities, after tram lines in the 1990s-2010s. The French Greens are in general opposed both to urban motorways/roads AND subway lines. In Toulouse a Green association has launched yet another lawsuit against Toulouse's 3rd subway line, which the Greens oppose: Un nouveau recours contre la 3ligne de métro à Toulouse. In Bordeaux there's no subway to start with (center-right politicians were too conservative to build one, and the current Green mayor is of course opposed to building a subway network).

 

[ChrisZwolle]

First winter impact on A75:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1599369443204734976

 

[ChrisZwolle]

The six lane widening of A480 through Grenoble has been completed today.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1602974249408503808

 

[ChrisZwolle]

I was driving on the back roads of the Cevennes Mountains this summer, and came across this historic Michelin sign in La Vacquerie.


Michelin - La Vacquerie 01 by European Roads, on Flickr


Michelin - La Vacquerie 02 by European Roads, on Flickr

 

[Pitchoune]

The French Greens are in general opposed both to urban motorways/roads AND subway lines.

Surprisingly, the Belgian Greens are also opposed to subway lines (and of course motorways). Luckily the 3rd Brussels subway line was too advanced already when they became a major party in Brussels a few years ago.

 

[Attus]

Surprisingly, the Belgian Greens are also opposed to subway lines (and of course motorways). Luckily the 3rd Brussels subway line was too advanced already when they became a major party in Brussels a few years ago.

It's not so surprising. The Green party of Germany, too, opposes building subway lines in cities.