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It always changes every year. Madison dropped from 1st to 10th- which is still pretty good. Boise is 1st now.

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ReddAlert said:
Detroit better than Honolulu?
Peoria over NYC?
Gary over Miami? what gives?
They use bullshit criteria and some bizarre ratios for these polls. Out of the top 15 cities, I wouldn't set foot in 12 of them.

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^ No sh*t. Austin and Madison are definitely cool. I have nothing against Boise, Norfolk and Richmond, but Raleigh, Atlanta, Albuquerque, Houston and the others?

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Thats a steep drop for Madison. Now Atlanta is better than Madison.

OOO no wonder, its metro.
Since Gary is in the Chicago metro, Gary is better than NYC, saids the list..

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Azn_chi_boi said:
Thats a steep drop for Madison. Now Atlanta is better than Madison.

OOO no wonder, its metro.
Since Gary is in the Chicago metro, Gary is better than NYC, saids the list..
Again, I wouldn't take much offense to these rankings as they are fucked up beyond belief. When Forbes or some other publication that knows nothing about cities compiles a list like this, they start looking at things like # of health clubs per capita, # of ice cream parlors per capita, average income, etc. Of course, climate and crime rate are also heavily factored in. That gives cities with small populations or warm climates an advantage.

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Azn_chi_boi said:
Thats a steep drop for Madison. Now Atlanta is better than Madison.

OOO no wonder, its metro.
Since Gary is in the Chicago metro, Gary is better than NYC, saids the list..

Gary is better than many ways

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Rockford said:
Gary is better than many ways
That sounds like something you would say. To most people on this forum, that statement is absurd. Come to think of it, did Forbes consult you on the rankings?

The City
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Like many urban rankings, this uses the following criteria:

1) Best place for a WASP to feel safe from black people and their criminal ways

2) Best way for a Bush-loving American to live as cheaply as possible, own several cars, drive cheap gasoline, and never have to deal with people of another culture

3) Any place for a person to continue to hold on to his personal wealth and never have to share it with others (more or less fortunate than him) in the form of taxes that fund public services

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If Badgers77 had provided ALL OF THE INFORMATION, he would have told us this was Forbes' list of "best places to jump-start a business or your career," as described on the website.

But he didn't.

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Yikes, the elaboration makes more sense I guess, still this list seems absurd, many of these cities dont even seem to have much of a population base to support jumpstarting a business, but I am not an expert. Some of them I guess have good educational facilities, however, still putting it all together I cant imagine anyone saying Gary is better for business or jumping your career than Miami, some of the cities on there are just appalling though. I almost think they paid to be in some sort of ranking. Some of the populations on that list are even 'iffy'. It seems like once respected business publications are moving more toward tabloid status.

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This looks to me like a cost of living ranking more than anything else. San Fran, LA, Miami, New York....all lower than they should be (IMO) on this list. Im in agreement with theurbanpolitician on the reasoning behind this ranking.

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Why isn't Macomb, IL on the list! hahaha :jk:

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Boise has a lot going on. The economy is great, cost of living low, & great natural features (at least west, if you go east it is no-mans land).

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Here's the list for small metros to start a business.

1 Sioux Falls SD
2 Rochester MN
3 State College PA
4 Fargo ND
5 Bismarck ND
6 Rapid City SD
7 Lincoln NE
8 Las Cruces NM
9 Iowa City IA
10 Bloomington IN
11 Pocatello ID
12 Charlottesville VA
13 Billings MT
14 Missoula MT
15 Bryan TX
16 Dutchess County NY
17 Cheyenne WY
18 Brazoria TX
19 Wilmington NC
20 Fort Collins CO
21 Casper WY
22 Lawrence KS
23 Lafayette IN
24 Flagstaff AZ
25 La Crosse WI
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