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Developer reveals 42-story plans for Hyde Park site


Sleek tower would dwarf historic Dade pine Stranahan House.

By Brittany Wallman
Staff Writer
Posted April 15 2005

FORT LAUDERDALE · Forty-two stories of sleek glass, concrete and steel, with a swimming pool on top, overshadowing two stories of Dade pine.

Six floors of parking, with 409 spaces for condo dwellers, next door to a Florida vernacular-style house that a century ago served as a post office, bank, trading post, town hall and home -- a vestige of the city's past.

Such are the contrasts between Fort Lauderdale's latest planned skyline addition and its likely neighbor, the historic Stranahan House.

Details of the controversial condominium high-rise, planned for the Hyde Park Market site were submitted to the city Thursday, now that a legal truce between Fort Lauderdale and the developer has cleared the way for the tower to be built.

Peaking at 460 feet, it would be one of the tallest buildings in the county -- and, one of the most publicly debated.

"We have a design that's sensitive," said Barbara Salk, vice president of The Related Group, the Miami-based developer of the building planned for Las Olas Boulevard where Federal Highway tunnels under the New River. "I want to be a good neighbor."

Next door, inside the 1901, nationally recognized home of town pioneers Frank Stranahan and Ivy Cromartie, hangs a plaque bearing the museum's slogan: "Where the old meets the new."

But it's doubtful anyone at the Stranahan House meant for the old and the new to be that close. Even with Thursday's submission of plans, supporters of the historic house aren't through fighting for a park next door rather than 272 condominium apartments starting at $400,000 each.

"By no means," said Neil Schiller, a representative for Friends of the Park at Stranahan House. "We're not giving up."

The Related Group and Coolidge-South Markets Equities, the landowner, would have been the first in the city's recent wave of residential towers, but plans were snagged by Stranahan neighbors who objected and wanted a park.

A majority of voters in 2000 agreed the city should spend $8 million to buy the Hyde Market site, to frame the historic house in a park setting. Later it became clear $8 million would not be nearly enough to afford the property. The city's legal case to stop the tower and build a park failed at every turn, and the developer filed a countersuit to be paid damages for the delays. The fight ended in November, when a majority of city commissioners settled, allowing the tower.

The project has to go through the normal review process in City Hall. But if it is not granted building permits, a court-approved settlement says the developer can revert to a former plan for a 38-story tower considered more intrusive to its neighbor.

Though the city settled, the Stranahan House supporters struggled on, filing a court challenge to the settlement itself.

Last week, controversy erupted when Stranahan representatives sent a letter to Related and Coolidge that looked to be an official city notice warning them their land would be considered for a historic landmark designation, which could make developing it more difficult. The city had scheduled no such hearing and the city attorney's office said Stranahan House officials attempted to hamper the project with counterfeit documents.

"Hopefully someday we'll learn to live together, and work in a positive manner," said Salk.

She stood at the site Thursday with a set of building plans.

"We're not here to cry over the past."

Thursday's submission includes the option of an eight-story historic mural, photograph or mosaic, on the garage wall that rises behind the Stranahan House. The project also includes a public promenade, to be maintained by the city, directly in front of Stranahan House.

Salk said the five-year fight was worth the effort, time and money, because of the principle of defending the company's property rights. She said Fort Lauderdale is evolving into a vibrant downtown, and her marketing research shows high demand for more condos here.

"I think this is becoming a vibrant city, a major business center," said Salk. "Fort Lauderdale's not a small town anymore."

Ellen Murton, assistant director at the house, however, lamented the loss of her "quaint" old Fort Lauderdale.

"I'm an old-timer," said Murton. "I liked it the way it was, frankly."


Giant neighbor
An impression of the proposed 42-story Fort Lauderdale luxury condominium project on the old Hyde Park Market site at 500 East Las Olas Blvd. shows how it would look alongside the Stranahan House, right.



The tallest
An impression of a section of downtown Fort Lauderdale shows the tallest building would be the proposed 42-story luxury condominium project, which would be built on the old Hyde Park Market site at 500 East Las Olas Blvd.
 

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This is really a positive change of direction for FTL. My chief criticism of FTL is that, while lots of stuff is going up downtown, there's still too much of the Med Rev architecture to suit my tastes. This design really catapults FTL into the 21st Century IMO.
 

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This tower will block my southern view from my place in Summit Las Olas. I think the design is ok but once again the top is boring just like Las Olas Grand and Watergarden.
Another flattop I want some domes or spires or something :)

As for this guy saying this..."I think this is becoming a vibrant city, a major business center," said Salk. "Fort Lauderdale's not a small town anymore."

He needs to pull his head out of his ass. I live downtown and my company moved out of downtown and I've been looking for a job back in downtown ft. Lauderdale and most of the companies are not expanding or hiring and I know of no new business occupying any of the office space available. Including the 11 storey building we packed up and left. Its a nice thought though but the suburban office parks hold a lot of the jobs here.

Cypress Creek (microsoft, citrix, at&t, ny life) MS just built a 4 or 5 storey builing there.
Pine Island (DHL moved their headquarters there instead of downtown....) and numerous other businesses are out there.

Miramar (nortel) and well you get the picture......
Am I bitter? Hells yea how can FLL be a major business center when these companies choose the suburbs over the central city?
 

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ScraperDude said:
This tower will block my southern view from my place in Summit Las Olas. I think the design is ok but once again the top is boring just like Las Olas Grand and Watergarden.
Another flattop I want some domes or spires or something :)

As for this guy saying this..."I think this is becoming a vibrant city, a major business center," said Salk. "Fort Lauderdale's not a small town anymore."

He needs to pull his head out of his ass. I live downtown and my company moved out of downtown and I've been looking for a job back in downtown ft. Lauderdale and most of the companies are not expanding or hiring and I know of no new business occupying any of the office space available. Including the 11 storey building we packed up and left. Its a nice thought though but the suburban office parks hold a lot of the jobs here.

Cypress Creek (microsoft, citrix, at&t, ny life) MS just built a 4 or 5 storey builing there.
Pine Island (DHL moved their headquarters there instead of downtown....) and numerous other businesses are out there.

Miramar (nortel) and well you get the picture......
Am I bitter? Hells yea how can FLL be a major business center when these companies choose the suburbs over the central city?
Wow ! That's a dour assessment. By the way, whatever happened to the 14 story office tower Stiles announced about a year ago ? And I thought I heard that FTL has the lowest vacancy rate of any CBD in Florida.
 

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This tower will block my southern view from my place in Summit Las Olas. I think the design is ok but once again the top is boring just like Las Olas Grand and Watergarden.
Another flattop I want some domes or spires or something :)
I got one for ya ScraperDude :) , you can have the 15 foot spire on the top of the Brickell on the River condo tower #1, it will look a whole lot better without it, the rounded top looks better without that cheap small spire. :cheers:
 

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Businesses Downtown

Downtown Office Space

Yea! We really need that office growth directed downtown in order to have a real downtown. But how does the city get companies to choose premium $$$$ space downtown when they can build out west for less?

Having all those offices out west only worsens our already insane gridlock especially on I-595.
 

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I agree with ChuckScraperMiami#1. Just throwing some ornament on top of a building like a Christmas tree Angel looks ugly. I think the buildings would look better if they had interesting shapes like cylinders or tapered toward the top or something like Las Olas Riverhouse or the Four Seasons Miami.

But to developers I guess good architecture = more expensive = bad
 

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great tower, should be close to 500 feet,

anyways, there was an article a couple weeks back that said a building was to be like 500+ feet. is this is or is that another buidling?

thats awesome

we need a project rundown, with all these new stuff hapening
 

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^ This is 460 ft. The 514 ft. building you're thinking of is planned for a site a couple of blocks north, along Broward.
 

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People in SoFla are no different than New yorkers and residents of New Jersey and their respective identities to their respective neighborhoods and states. Its normal.

Miami doesn't have an architectural identity crisis. Ft.L kind of does, b'c its downtown is still trying to find itself with all this new construction. Miami: From Blue to ICON to ESP to Four Seasons to Ten Museum Park to BOA to LYNX to Met 3 to Jade to Trump Grande to Jade Beach to Ice to Wachovia to Freedom Tower to MIC to the PAC to the art deco district. People all over the world know the "Miami" style. Ft. L is on the right track with Las Olas Riverhouse as Broward is with Westin Diplomat and BEach Club.
 

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Does anyone know about the loft conversion project in downtown Lauderdale?
Some developer is converting an old telephone company building into lofts.

This will be one of the only real loft projects in Florida where an old commercial
building will be revonated into living space.

The project will also include an automated parking garage. Loft owners will be able to drive their car into the bottom of the garage, get out and then the car will be automatically lifted and placed into a spot and retrieved when the driver wants to leave again. Kind of like a CD changer.

When owners want to leave they push a call button in their unit and their car will be waiting for them at the garage door when they get downstairs.

These garages also learn your habits so that if you leave a lot or early in the morning it will keep your car near the bottom.

The garage is like a bookshelf for cars. I think they're only one car deep but several cars across and several cars high.

This will be the first in Florida but many more are planned in the most urban areas of the state.

Has anyone seen one of these abroad or in another part of the US?

Here are some pix of this type of garage....



 

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that automated car garage is so awsome
I wonder how much it costs to build and maintain a garage like that, I can imagine it needs to be monitored 24/7 in case it were to jam or malfunction. Also, I wonder if it would be feasible for large-scale projects, like 40+ story condo towers. Interesting stuff.
 
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