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FOX Sports 3 primed for October launch

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Fox Sports is readying a third dedicated sports channel to launch in October, Austar sources have confirmed to Knowfirst.

At this stage the channel is likely to be a replacement for the Fox Footy Channel.

With Foxtel still sparring with AFL rights-holders Seven and Ten for coverage from 2007 to 2011, it is not exactly known what will happen to the dedicated AFL channel, but indications are it is set to be scrapped.

With a heavy investment in cricket and soccer, plus continuing football coverage through the winter months, Fox Sports' schedule has been filling up quickly.

The channel is expected to launch on digital channel 503 (not known what channel on analogue at this point in time).
Source: http://www.knowfirst.info/forums/showthread.php?t=17365
 

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PAY-TELEVISION giant Foxtel is considering scrapping its sports flagship Fox Footy Channel after the AFL grand final in September. But AFL games would still be seen on subscription TV, possibly on a new Fox Sports 3 channel.

The future of the FFC is uncertain because of the slow pace of negotiations between the new AFL rights holders - the Seven and Ten networks - and Foxtel. Despite reports to the contrary, no dollars have been discussed and no deals have been done. Foxtel chief executive Kim Williams told Media he wanted to continue with AFL, but "not at any price".

"We love AFL," Mr Williams said. "We want to look after our subscribers who also love it. But we are not willing to do anything which is not commercially and operationally in the best interests of the company."

Foxtel set up FFC in 2002 to provide a non-stop showcase for AFL. It pays about $35 million a year for the rights to show all games each week - three live - and the dedicated channel costs about $50 million a year to run.

AFL rights have been held by News Limited (publisher of The Australian) since the 2002 season. It has sold free-to-air rights to the Nine and Ten networks, and pay-TV rights to Foxtel.

Last year Nine's parent Publishing and Broadcasting Ltd bid $780million for the 2007-11 rights, but a first-and-last bidding clause allowed rival Seven, in partnership with Ten, to match the offer and win the rights.

Seven plans to program live AFL on Friday nights and Sunday afternoons. Ten will have rights to Saturday matches. A new Sunday night game will probably be broadcast live on Foxtel if an agreement can be reached. The finals will alternate between Seven and Ten.

The Seven-Ten consortium has the right to sell as many as four games to pay TV - or another broadcaster - each round. While SBS and pay-TV minnow SelecTV have been nominated as potential partners, only Foxtel and the regional provider Austar present a viable option for Seven.

As one insider put it: "Seven needs Foxtel and Foxtel needs football." AFL is a subscription driver for Foxtel, particularly in the southern states, and it carries a strong loyalty factor.

Seven and Ten have to try to claw back as much as possible from pay TV to lower their AFL costs, a task proving difficult because of the tense relationships between the parties.

Seven boss Kerry Stokes is suing Foxtel, PBL and News, among others, claiming they conspired to put his sports pay-TV arm, C7, out of business through predatory behaviour. The case has run almost 100 days and is not expected to be over for many months more.

Insiders say negotiations between the parties are at their earliest stages. Media understands preliminary agendas and questions have been exchanged, but discussions on prices have not yet started.

Foxtel says it wants negotiations to be over by the end of July, or at least before the start of the finals in September, to allow planning time for next year's FFC programming if it is to continue.

If negotiations on price and terms are not accepted by then, Foxtel would close FFC rather than keep presenters and staff on the books through the summer.

Other sources suggest that might happen anyway. Media was told: "It makes more sense for Foxtel to do away with the FFC and put football games on a new Fox Sports 3 channel. The saving on FFC staff and infrastructure would allow Foxtel to pay more for the games, a win-win outcome for Seven and Foxtel."

But this move would be likely to spark new tensions between Foxtel's owners, PBL, News (each with 25 per cent) and Telstra (50per cent.) It would channel the dollars through Fox Sports, jointly owned by News and PBL, rather than Foxtel.

Evidence in the C7 case has shown that relationships between News and Telstra were particularly tense in 2001 when Telstra suspected News and PBL of over-pricing Fox Sports products to underwrite their losses on Foxtel.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said FFC was a huge plus for football. "A 24/7 dedicated channel is a fantastic vehicle for us," he said. "If Seven and Ten can come to an arrangement [with Foxtel] on broadcast rights, we'd be delighted. If that arrangement includes FFC, we'd be even more delighted."
 

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^^^^^^^^^

This is the big chance for Kerry Stokes, owner of Ch. 7, to get revenge on not only Ch. 9 but on Rupert Murdoch who stooged him out of AFL back in 2000.

Revenge is a dish best served cold!
 

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Oh god - don't tell me your a Super Seven Supporter!

Seven and Ten would be denying themselves money if they didnt sell some of their games to Foxtel. They paid a shitload for the rights, and would make a shitload on-selling their rights.
 

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^^^^^^^^^^

It is better for all concerned if ALL AFL matches are on free to air television and NOT on pay tv.

Only 25 per cent of households have pay tv, and out of that number not all have Fox Sports.

Pay tv is for sports of little general appeal, like PGA golf, volleyball, monster trucks etc..

The demand is there for free to air to show all games.

Something like this:

Friday night: Seven x 1 game
Saturday arvo: Ten x 1 game
Sat evening: Ten x 1 game
Sat night: Ten x 1 game
Sunday arvo/evening: Seven x 3 games starting at midday.

The last game could be screened as a replay.

Football is supposed to be a game for the people and not big business like the Packers and Murdochs of the world. The AFL has lost sight of this.

Quite frankly I couldn't give a toss if they only had 1 camera at each game, as long as it is on tv where it should be!
 

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Did you know in 1996 about 3% of households had pay tv? It's a growing market and most sports WILL be on pay tv withing 10 years.
 

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I never understood why they had a dedicated Aussie Rules channel, there is one meaningful comp in the world, they must have shown repeats from the 1970s onwards over and over again.

What Foxtel need to do it set up a dedicated soccer channel!!!

There are plenty of league games to show from Europe, South America and Asia, there are tonnes of football shows from around the world, regional cup comps like Euro and Asian champions league, FA cup type comps all over europe, not to mention the friendlies from time to time.

They would easily fill a channel.
 

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Agreed.
I really don't see the need for a 24/7 AFL channel. You can't tell me that there are actually people out there who sit there and watch old matches all day during the week. Maybe have it dedicated to AFL on the weekends, then early in the week, replay the weekends matches. Then have something else on at other times.
 

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Don't forget Foxtel shunned Channel 7s C7 sports channel.There isn't really a need for AFL to be on Foxtel. I had it and barely watched it as all blockbusters and games I was interested in were on free to air. And the footy shows they had on Foxtel were appalling and not even watchable.

The only way in which it could work is if they played live home games, gave more control over the angles you could watch the game at and got decent commentators.
 

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sydney_lad said:
I never understood why they had a dedicated Aussie Rules channel, there is one meaningful comp in the world, they must have shown repeats from the 1970s onwards over and over again.

What Foxtel need to do it set up a dedicated soccer channel!!!

There are plenty of league games to show from Europe, South America and Asia, there are tonnes of football shows from around the world, regional cup comps like Euro and Asian champions league, FA cup type comps all over europe, not to mention the friendlies from time to time.

They would easily fill a channel.

Uhh yea. Not many people would watch that.
 

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Looks like more Soccer (football). Will make a lot of people happy :)
Interesting note about the cricket also. I wonder if channel 9 knows???? :)
_______________________________________

Fox Sports 3 on the launchpad
By staff writers
May 31, 2006

*FOXTEL and AUSTAR today announced a major expansion of its sports services
through the creation of a new premium digital channel, FOX SPORTS 3.*

FOX SPORTS 3 will launch in October with a 24-hour-a-day service that
includes new live and exclusive Australian and international sports
television.

Premier Media Group (PMG), which owns and operates all the FOX SPORTS
services, will produce the new channel that will extend and complement FOX
SPORTS 1, FOX SPORTS 2 and FOX SPORTS NEWS.

OPTUS TV subscribers to FOXTEL Digital will be able to add FOX SPORTS 3 to
their service.

FOX SPORTS 3 will offer expanded coverage of domestic and international
football, cricket, tennis, golf, rugby union and more.


The new channel will also include specially produced magazine programs on a
wide range of sports made to the highest standards for which FOX SPORTS is
renowned.

FOX SPORTS 3 will showcase all football matches included as part of a wide-
ranging agreement reached recently between Football Federation Australia
and PMG.

This includes the Hyundai A-League live and exclusive, Australia
international matches, next year's Asian Cup, and the Asian Champions
League, which will include Australian teams for the first time in 2007. The
channel will also expand its live coverage of the English Premier League.


In addition, this summer FOX SPORTS 3 will televise a range of domestic and
international cricket including exclusive coverage of the domestic limited-
overs competition, Twenty20 matches and nightly highlights of the much-
anticipated Ashes series.


Further details of the complete FOX SPORTS 3 program line-up and schedule
will be revealed closer to its launch.

PMG's chief executive David Malone said: "FOX SPORTS 3 reinforces our
ongoing commitment to providing Australian viewers with more live, relevant
and Australian sport than any other broadcaster in this country.

"With the addition of FOX SPORTS 3, subscription television viewers will
have the choice to enjoy the best domestic and international sports across
all our channels.

"FOX SPORTS 3 will not only include more of those sports already covered on
our channels but will enable us to broaden the range of sporting events we
televise."


http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0...-23218,00.html
 

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Uhh yea. Not many people would watch that.
Speak for yourself mate.

Did you see the ratings for the Australia v Greece match at the MCG last week? Wasn't very far off the state of origin ratings ;)

The sleeping giant that is Assosiation Football is waking up in Australia :cheers:
 

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What Fox is good for re AFL is not so much the games and boring continual replays of games dating back the past 4 years, but the nightly talk shows. If you are an AFL junkie, like I used to be before I got married, then Fox gives good value for all those talk shows.
 

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Not another Fox channel............ they pad out what they have now with enough filler.

No doubt they will make the new sports channel an "Extra" package to squeeze more cash out of the punter.

The best way the public can get these sports back on FTA is to boycott Foxtel/Austar/Optus. This will force them into bankruptcy.
 

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No more Fox Footy
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Foxtel will close the its AFL-only Fox Footy Channel at the end of the season because of the uncertainty over pay-TV rights to televise AFL football from next year through until 2007.

Foxtel has been negotiating unsuccessfully with the Seven and Ten networks for a slice of the AFL TV pie from next year but, after two offers were rebuffed by the free-to-air networks, has decided to close Fox Footy on 30 September, AFL Grand Final Day.

Foxtel has indicated that it will continue to negotiate to televise AFL football in 2007, but any coverage would be part of the new Fox Sports 3 station that launches on 1 October.

Foxtel was part of the Channel Nine consortium that was outbid by Seven and Ten in January 2006 for the new five-year contract from 2007-11. As part of that bid, Fox Footy would have televised four live matches a week.

A similar offer was rejected by Seven and Ten earlier this year while more recently, an offer for three live matches per week – the same as the current deal - was also rejected by the networks.

As a result, Foxtel now believes a station devoted solely to AFL football is no longer financially viable if it has to pay a high premium to televise three matches exclusively each week.

"A major factor in the closure of Fox Footy Channel is Australia’s restrictive sports broadcasting law that give the free-to-air TV networks the power over TV sports rights and their allocation to subscription television," the network said in a statement.

"The law stopped Foxtel and the AFL from dealing directly with each other to achieve certainty for subscription television coverage of the AFL."

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said Fox Footy was a "tremendous partner" for the last five years and its closure was disappointing.

"This is a very sad day for everyone involved in the game because of the exposure that Fox Footy provided for AFL football across the country, and particularly so for the staff at Fox Footy who have invested so much time and energy into broadcasting three matches per week, as well as many hours of live television across White Line Fever, On the Couch, Saturday Central and League Teams," he said.

Fox Footy was launched in early 2002 and among the high-profile AFL identities involved in the station were Ron Barassi, Gerard Healy, Robert Walls, Tony Shaw, Rodney Eade, Wayne Schwass, Kevin Bartlett, Alastair Lynch, Bob Davis, Doug Hawkins, David Parkin, Mike Sheahan and Caroline Wilson.

http://www.sportal.com.au/football.asp?i=news&id=87238
 

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It was always coming, and it makes a lot of sense. Fox Footy was a bit of a write off in the off-season. This way, AFL coverage and panel programs can remain on FS3 during the season, in the off-season increased cricket coverage and the like will take over.
It shouldn't impact on coverage too much. NRL is on Fox Sports and they still have replays of every game and various panel programs.
 

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Gotta love how Foxtel blames the laws for its closure: "A major factor in the closure of Fox Footy Channel is Australia’s restrictive sports broadcasting law that give the free-to-air TV networks the power over TV sports rights and their allocation to subscription television," the network said in a statement.

Is this some kind of f-ing joke? Here we have football which has been the people's game for 150 years and these guys want to bury it on a subscription tv service which maybe 1 in 20 households have.

The people bleating the most about its closure will be Murdoch's aparatchiks like Patrick Smith and Kevin Sheahan. No shit they happen to work for News LTD.

Eight matches next year on free to air tv.

The people are today celebrating! :applause:
 

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The current broascasting laws are too restrictive, but not in the fashion they are suggesting. I've got no problem with F2A getting first shot at most things but they shouldn't be able to purchase rights and then not show the event reasonably.

But, Fox will get its 3 games per year eventually. They're just bargaining at the moment.
 
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