Neither one of them has over 10 million ppl. The only city to fit in the developed world would be Seoul.How would you define a megacity? I would say appropriate standards for the current year would be 10 million in the city proper/downtown area and at least 20 million in the metropolitan area. The only two cities in the developed world that truly fit the definition of a megacity are New York City and Tokyo.
Milano metro is 7.5 mio and increases in populationToronto will definately be a megacity by 2050. Its metro is already 6 + million and is increasing very rapidly
This is very uncertain. The fertility rate is at around 1,41 in Lombardia. That means, if there would be no migration, the population would half around every 60 years. And I don't think that the immigration to Italy will continue at that rate for 43 years.Milano metro is 7.5 mio and increases in population
I can't make projections till 2050 but could be possible the same area could have 10 + mio
Today Lombardy region (the region of Milan) still got 10 mio hinabitants...
Well the title of the thread is megacities in the developed world so we don't need to worry about massive slums. But you do bring up a good point though. Infrastructure is a big issue, which is also why I don't see any "New World" cities becoming megacities because their transportation infrastructure is too energy inefficient so sustain tens of millions of people.Do you define megacity only by population numbers? What about infrastructure, transportation etc. Don't you think that to deserve to be called a megacity, a settlement must be not only suffciently large but also developed enough. Is a 15 million slum with most of polulation living without running water or access to urban transit more "mega" then 8 million area with large metrosystem, superstructures, skyscrapers etc?
Totally agree, But im not too sure that Milano's metro is 7.5 million, thats quite out there..I mean what kind of measurments do they use in Italy. I've been to Milano many times and have family that lives there, and to me and them (who have been to Toronto) say that Toronto is bigger on a land scale.This is very uncertain. The fertility rate is at around 1,41 in Lombardia. That means, if there would be no migration, the population would half around every 60 years. And I don't think that the immigration to Italy will continue at that rate for 43 years.
Not so difficult in that case: in a ray of about 60 km from Milan city center live about 7.5 mio peopleTotally agree, But im not too sure that Milano's metro is 7.5 million, thats quite out there..I mean what kind of measurments do they use
I agree, maybe not by 2050, but the growth in this area is substantial. Like most sunbelt cities, growth has been steady, with the continuous Tampa area DMA the largest in the state of Florida, including areas as south a Sarasota and north to Pasco and Hernando. The area forms an "H" shape from Tampa and the west coast through the Orlando area and on the east coast including Daytona down to Melbourne. The "Orlampa" region is predicted to be the next Megaregion, with a population increase of 350,000 in just the rural areas seperating the two large cities within the next 20 years.tampa orlando will become a huge metro mega region with a population of 11 million by 2050 if current growth continues
Well, in that case, Toronto is a little smaller or a little larger than Milan depending on the catchment area considered.Not so difficult in that case: in a ray of about 60 km from Milan city center live about 7.5 mio people
A radium of 120 km has no sense for Europe... I know Australian and American MAs have often these very big size; but it depends the bigness of the territory itself annd its extensive useWell, in that case, Toronto is a little smaller or a little larger than Milan depending on the catchment area considered.
Toronto is the epicentre of what Ontarians call the Golden Horseshore. Within the inner ring lie 6,488,062 people. Within the outer ring lie 8,102,163 people. At about 120 km, the outer ring is a more extravagant catchment than the metro Milan figure of 60 km.
I said it is possible within 2050 that area of 7.5 mio will have 10 mio... but I underlined to forecast by now what will happen in next 40 years is not so reasonableIt seems accurate to give Milan the edge here, but that order will probably be reversed within a decade.
Probably you don't know in last years Italy grew as much as Spain in populationIt will be interesting to see if cities like Madrid will get there. Spain seems to be growing much quicker than the rest of Europe.