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Thames Gateway Bridge
Gallions Reach - Thamesmead


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Timeline


May 2003
Public consultations into plans for a Thames Gateway Bridge commence
BBC News - Thames bridge plans put to public


January 2004
The Thames Gateway Bridge receives financial backing from the government
BBC News - New cash for Thames bridge


June 2004
Planning application for Thames Gateway Bridge submitted by Transport for London
BBC News - Application for new Thames bridge


December 2004
Plans for the bridge approved by Greenwich and Newham councils with support from Mayor Ken Livingstone
TfL - Thames Gateway bridged by planning approval


June 2005
First public inquiry begins into the Thames Gateway Bridge
BBC News - Inquiry into new Thames crossing


July 2007
Second public inquiry begins into the Thames Gateway Bridge
BBC News - Review ordered into Thames bridge


November 2008
The Thames Gateway Bridge is formally cancelled by Boris Johnson upon assuming the mayoralty
Local London - Thames Gateway bridge plan axed by London mayor


October 2012
TfL commence consultations on plans for a ferry at Gallions Reach. Public found to strongly favour a bridge
TfL - Seeking your views on improving river crossings


January 2013
Greenwich and Newham councils launch campaign for a Thames Gateway Bridge
The Wharf - Councils join forces to push for bridge in east London


May 2013
Mayor Boris Johnson U-turns on his opposition to a Thames Gateway Bridge
Evening Standard - New Thames crossing could go ahead at Greenwich after U-turn on scrapped plan


March 2014
London Chamber of Commerce and Industry launch campaign for a Thames Gateway Bridge
BBC News - East London needs a new Thames bridge, say businesses



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Supporters
of a Thames Gateway Bridge (brief selection)


O2 Arena

Berkeley Group

Canary Wharf Group

ExCel London

Greenwich Council

London Chamber of Commerce and Industry

London City Airport

London Gatwick Airport

Lord Adonis

Newham Council

Sir Terry Farrell

Spitalfields Market

MP for Poplar and Limehouse (Jim Fitzpatrick)

MP for Bethnal Green and Bow (Rushanara Ali)

MP for Greenwich and Woolwich (Nick Raynsford)

MP for Barking (Margaret Hodge)

MP for East Ham (Stephen Timms)

MP for Erith and Thamesmead (Teresa Pearce)

MP for Tooting (Sadiq Khan)


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Opponents
to a Thames Gateway Bridge

Bexley Council

Friends of the Earth

Green Party




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Inspirational vision to 'Bridge East London'
London Chamber of Commerce and Industry
30 June 2014

On the 120th anniversary of the completion of Tower Bridge, a stunning image of the future for east and south east London was unveiled today with an exciting vision for a new bridge that would help transform leisure and business travel, and enhance life in the east of the capital.

The concept, called 'Bridge East London', suggests a new road bridge over the River Thames, linking Beckton and Thamesmead at Gallions Reach. The proposed bridge would allow clear passage for ships and takes into account aircraft taking off or landing at City Airport. It would also provide a much needed link for cyclists, who will be able to enjoy a segregated cycle path, and open up new bus routes crossing the river.

The idea has been created by internationally renowned architects HOK, who recently completed the design for the interior of the BBC's New Broadcasting House and the design of The Francis Crick Institute, alongside world class engineering and design consultants at Arup, the firm that brought to life global landmarks including the Sydney Opera House, Singapore's Helix Bridge and High Speed One.

It is hoped that the vision of a new bridge will help inspire all Londoners, whether business leaders, politicians, residents or commuters, to back the 'Bridge East London' campaign, launched by London Chamber of Commerce and Industry (LCCI), in response to the current dearth of road crossings at the eastern stretch of the Thames.

Colin Stanbridge, Chief Executive of LCCI said: "Nearly half of London's population lives east of Tower Bridge yet they are served by only two fixed road river crossings. It is an area with huge amounts of potential and while the Olympics acted as a crucible for creativity and dynamism in the area, its future growth is being held back by this gap in transport infrastructure.

"We know that the Mayor shares our enthusiasm for helping the east of the capital to maximise its exciting reinvention. The area is currently attracting the worlds brightest and best whether to the financial heartland of Canary Wharf, the Royal Docks development or the high-tech firms flocking to Silicon Roundabout in Shoreditch.

"New road river crossings linking east and south east London over the Thames will bring new jobs and homes to an area of the capital that has been overlooked for too long."

Richard Gammon, HOK's Global Director, Aviation + Transportation, said: "If the full potential of east London is to be harnessed and maximised to the benefit of our growing city, then we need to provide catalysts to enable that potential to flourish. Improving connectivity and accessibility is a key element of this regenerative process, and we strongly believe that a new bridge in this location will act as a powerful stimulant to growth, the strengthening of local communities and businesses, and the enhancement of the local environment"

Stephanos Samaras, Director at Arup said: "London's infrastructure is already under pressure and as the city's population continues to grow it is more important than ever that we provide better accessibility and connectivity to integrate communities. Infrastructure projects such as Crossrail are going a long way to help increase capacity but this proposed bridge could provide a much needed link for east London."

To support the call for a new bridge, please sign the LCCI petition at www.londonchamber.co.uk/bridgeeastlondon
 

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Revealed: £600m plan for new bicycle friendly bridge across the Thames in east London
Evening Standard
30 June 2014

The campaign for a new bridge for East London stepped up today as architects revealed plans for the proposed £600m Thames crossing.

Designs by architects HOK and Arup were published as campaign leaders called on politicians to back the project - or risk East London missing out on the legacy of the Olympics.

Spearheading the campaign, the London Chamber of commerce said east London was poorly served by crossings.

West Londoners benefit from a bridge for every 250,000 residents, while the east has one for every 1.7 million.

The new bridge would link new Beckton and Thamesmead at Gallions Reach.

Revealed on the 120th anniversary of the completion of Tower Bridge, the ‘Bridge East London’ would allow clear passage for ships and takes into account aircraft taking off or landing at City Airport. It would also provide a link for cyclists, who will be able to use a segregated cycle path, and open up new bus routes crossing the river.

The idea has been created by architects HOK, who recently completed the design for the interior of the BBC’s New Broadcasting House and the design of The Francis Crick Institute, with engineering and design consultants at Arup.

The bridge campaign is organised by the London Chamber of Commerce which wants politicians to commit ahead of the general and mayoral elections. It is supported by former transport secretary Andrew Adonis, Newham mayor Sir Robin Wales and Matthew Hall, chief commercial officer of City Airport.

London Mayor Boris Johnson has performed on a U-turn on the crossing, cancelling it in his first term. London’s population is predicted to grow by 1.5 million in 20 years — most of that likely to be in the east. The campaign claims independent economic analysis shows the bridge will add £55.7 million to the economy each year.

Colin Stanbridge, Chief Executive of LCCI said: “Nearly half of London’s population lives east of Tower Bridge yet they are served by only two fixed road river crossings. It is an area with huge amounts of potential and while the Olympics acted as a crucible for creativity and dynamism in the area, its future growth is being held back by this gap in transport infrastructure.”

Richard Gammon, HOK’s Global Director, Aviation + Transportation, said: “If the full potential of east London is to be harnessed and maximised to the benefit of our growing city, then we need to provide catalysts to enable that potential to flourish.”

But there has been local resistance to the plan, with opponents saying it will create pockets of road congestion and pollution. London Assembly Green Party member Darren Johnson said: “This new road bridge will bring more traffic, congestion and pollution to the streets of east London.

"Local people have been rejecting this bridge for over thirty years and the latest set of pretty artist drawings won’t disguise the fact that this new road will bring pollution and traffic jams to their area. East London has been growing fast and has benefited from several new public transport links in the last few years. Evidence to the last public inquiry on this new road showed that it wouldn’t help the local economy, but it would create pollution and congestion.”

London Assembly Green Party member Darren Johnson said: “This new road bridge will bring more traffic, congestion and pollution to the streets of east London. Local people have been rejecting this bridge for over thirty years and the latest set of pretty artist drawings won’t disguise the fact that this new road will bring pollution and traffic jams to their area.

"East London has been growing fast and has benefited from several new public transport links in the last few years. Evidence to the last public inquiry on this new road showed that it wouldn’t help the local economy, but it would create pollution and congestion.”
 

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Might be interested to do a poll on members opinions. I'd personally be opposed to a road bridge but in favour of a bus and bike only bridge or a DLR bridge.
 

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I would support tolling or something extreme like maybe electric vehicle only? Because this is completely white van territory and surely would make a up a lot the economic gains?
 

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Maybe a garden down the middle and a celeb endorsement might help it?

I jest, obvius.

The answer is to attach a railway line underneath and connect the Barking Riverside Overground to south of the river, alas that's probably a vision too far. Either way this should have been finished and open eons ago, all a bit embarrassing it's taking so long.
 

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If this wasn't a car bridge, and instead bike and public transport only, it would surely address Bexley Council's opposition as well as FOTE and the green parties concerns.
 

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I would restrict traffic to Penny Farthings and shepherds so that they can get their flocks back and forth between Kent and Essex.

There is absolutely no need for another crossing. While I'm at it why oh why has not the Rotherhithe and Blackwall tunnels been pedestrianised?

Could we also have a long winded debate (40 yrs minimum) on the viability of a hot air balloon crossing to help the plebs who live east of tower bridge.
 

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^^ Im not so sure they're all plebs. Having grown up in Bexley I think potto's ''white van territory'' is far more realistic.
 

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Maybe a garden down the middle and a celeb endorsement might help it?

I jest, obvius.

The answer is to attach a railway line underneath and connect the Barking Riverside Overground to south of the river, alas that's probably a vision too far. Either way this should have been finished and open eons ago, all a bit embarrassing it's taking so long.
I am in agreement, though the practicalities may cause problems (the ramp needs to be a lot less steep for rail). The overground may be better off going underground. Connecting it via Thamesmead to Abbey Wood would be pretty joined up though.

Of course, what you could do is divert Beckton DLR across the bridge as that can handle steeper gradients. Would be stupidly cheap to do as well.
 

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If this wasn't a car bridge, and instead bike and public transport only, it would surely address Bexley Council's opposition as well as FOTE and the green parties concerns.
In May 2008, a report commissioned by Green Party and funded by TfL recommended a cable car in east London as an alternative to the Thames Gateway Bridge:

- Campaign for Better Transport: New report recommends cable car alternative to Thames Gateway road bridge

- News Shopper: Cable car alternative to Thames Gateway Bridge

That cable car was completed in 2012, but didn't serve as a credible alternative.
 

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If this wasn't a car bridge, and instead bike and public transport only, it would surely address Bexley Council's opposition as well as FOTE and the green parties concerns.
It would be a steep hill to cycle up, about as high as the steel walkway on Tower Bridge.
 

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That has got one be one of the ugliest designs for a bridge in the entire developed world. The previous design was infinitely more attractive. And I also notice that the price tag has swollen to £600m without any good reason.
 

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Sorry to be to the point, but who gives a flying f$ck what the green party think? We already have some of the most restrictive controls in the world with regards to the environment and what can and cant be built on. This bridge is needed for future generataions of Londoners, and witht that in mind I for one couldnt care less what a bunch of sandal wearing meusli munchers think.
 

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Jjust put a few windmills and solar panels on it, instant greenery points. It's bloody windy out that way anyway. Might even make it look less shit.
 

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Sorry to be to the point, but who gives a flying f$ck what the green party think? We already have some of the most restrictive controls in the world with regards to the environment and what can and cant be built on. This bridge is needed for future generataions of Londoners, and witht that in mind I for one couldnt care less what a bunch of sandal wearing meusli munchers think.
While I've never voted Green and can't see myself doing so, they do have a strong point about the impact of climate change - and one that will directly affect this area in most of our lifetimes. Thamesmead is past the London Barrier and is low lying, it almost certainly will see frequent flooding in future decades from the impact of rising sea levels, caused by carbon in the atmosphere. Building a bridge here will be one small contribution towards increasing carbon in the atmosphere. While that alone won't make much difference, cumulative decisions like that do, and when you live in an area that's going to be affected wanting a bridge like this with no restrictions on what can use it seems a bit like a Turkey voting for Christmas.

I like the idea someone posited above of making it electric vehicle only. What a great way of ensuring electric vehicles finally get the critical mass they need in one area, which will help convince other people elsewhere to switch to them too.
 
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