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Glasgow | Cycling in the City | News & Developments

Cycling in Glasgow thread.

Council says 'Copenhagen-style' cycling is the future

Glasgow was recently voted one of Britain’s five most cycle friendly cities – and the only place in Scotland to make the top 20.

That kind of accolade is always welcome – and reflects the strength of the city’s cycling community and culture, not just its infrastructure.

However, we need to keep making progress if we want active travel to be a party of daily life in Glasgow.

A great example is the ‘Glasgow – East End on the Move’ project, that aims to address health, environmental and social mobility issues in the east of the city.

One of the main aims of that scheme has been to encourage people that are maybe not confident cycling on the road to use our new Copenhagen-style routes, which physically segregate cycle and vehicle traffic on the road to provide a safer environment for cyclists.

http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/magazin...-says-copenhagen-style-cycling-is-the-future/

Connect2 Glasgow Cycle Network (U/C)

Phase 1:
Kelvingrove Park to Anderston
(completed)
Phase 1 is a segregated cycle way linking North Claremont Street, Berkeley Street, Elderslie Street, and Argyle Street. It links Kelvingrove Park with the city centre and cost £525,000. It is open to the public.


Phase 2:
Anderston "Bridge to nowhere" to Central Station
(Dec 2012)
A major milestone for the Connect2 project, Phase 2A will see the pedestrian bridge over the M8 completed, linking two sides of the city. Work on the bridge is scheduled to take place from July 2012.
There will be a segregated cycle way for the length of the full route, in place of the existing carparking which will be transferred elsewhere. This section is scheduled for completion by Christmas 2012.
The cost, when combined with work on the Bridge to Nowhere (the blue section on the map) is estimated at £1.62 million.


Phase 3:
Anderston to River Clyde Cycle route.
(early 2013)
Phase 3 is the final section of Connect2 and will join it to the National Cycle Network via the Clydeside Expressway Pedestrian Bridge and a cycle path down North Street to the water front. This should be completed by 2013. The estimated cost is £775,000.

Info taken from:
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa...,-4.254906&spn=0.032583,0.102182&source=embed
East End Segregated Cycle Network

Saltmarket to Parkhead Route:
This new cycle route from Saltmarket links up Glasgow Green and The Forge at Parkhead. With the East End as the base for the new Sir Chris Hoy Velodrome cycling venue, the route aims to improve the East End and link it with the city centre.


East End Regeneration Route: Segregated cycle track along the route of the new EERR.

Glasgow Green to Commonwealth Games Arena Route:
This route in the East End links Glasgow Green and the new Commonwealth Games arena. This is a new segregated route along James Street and London Road through Bridgeton to the Games site itself. Now open to the public.

See link for map:
Info taken from:
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa...,-4.254906&spn=0.032583,0.102182&source=embed
 

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This is to be welcomed but I don't think its enough to get a critical mass of people cycling. The only way a larger volume of people travelling by bike is if there is a 'big bang' explosion in the number of cycle lanes that are all connected to each other and provide a relatively direct means of getting from A to B. Its very well adding it to the EERR, but if we are being honest, its not really going to do much business there. I've only ever seen one cyclist using it.

An East/West journey on the current proposed route involves detouring down to the clyde which is a pain in the arse if you are wanting to quickly cross the city to get to work. There also seem to be no plans to link the city centre with the more populous areas of the south side which is a big mistake.

A london bike hire scheme and more bike stands are also needed.

Still, a step in the right direction.
 

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Will have to be completely segregated (could they put greenery, bushes, etc? to seperate them?) cycle lanes from each corner of the city to the centre and back again. Glasgow has to learn that the only way to succeed is to do things comprehensively and completely. Doing things in halves, or more typically 100ths, won't cut it anymore.
 

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There is a 'Colleges Cycle Route' going from Strathclyde to Jordanhill, I see the Glasgow Uni section of this route everyday during term time, and there are always cars parked on University Avenue blocking the route, which defeats the point of it!!!

After sorting out the parked cars which regularly block this cycle lane, they could stick in one of these 'Copenhagen lanes' down Kelvin Way and safely join the Colleges Route to the new segregated Connect 2 route, and that would link Glasgow Uni and Central Station and all the houses in between by bike lane.

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I see Dublin also has a similar scheme to London's Barclay Bike hire, and the Irish capital is just about to role out hundreds of new hire bikes across the city:

Dublin bike hire scheme set to treble in size


http://newinireland.com/images/users/image52.jpg

PLANS FOR a threefold expansion of the Dublin bike scheme, the first since the rental bikes were introduced to the city three years ago, will be finalised within weeks.

Work to treble the number of bikes from 500 to 1,500, and more than double the number of stands where they can accessed from 44 to 100, will begin before the end of the year, Dublin City Council has said.

The new bike stations will initially be installed east of the current stations towards the Docklands, and west to Heuston Station.

The provisions of the 56 new stations and 1,000 bikes will be the first phase of a five-year expansion plan to increase the number of bikes to 5,000 and the number of bike stations to approximately 300.

This expansion, radiating out from the current 44 city centre stations, will bring the bikes into the suburbs as far as DCU to the north of the city, UCD to the south, Inchicore to the west and Sandymount to the east.

In the region of 70,000 subscribers have signed up to use the bikes since the scheme began operating in September 2009, making it one of the most successful city bike rental schemes in Europe.

The bikes and their pick-up and drop-off stations have thus far been funded by outdoor advertising company JC Decaux, which won the contract to provide the bike scheme in return for advertising space in the city.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0730/1224321087209.html
Hopefully Glasgow can set up a similar scheme soon, this push for people to pedal in the run up to the Commonwealth Games is great, new bike lanes in the east, new velodrome and mountain bike tracks ect, it's fantastic - I hope it continues after the Games have finsished, and a Cycle Hire scheme really would be great for the city doing so as it's a long term investment!
 

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I've been a few places with such schemes; pretty sure Vienna has one, Cologne definitely does plus a few other here's and there's.

IMO every city should have schemes like this, it lets people cycle without the hassle of keeping a bike, is fairly cheap and keeps you fit. Definitely a benefit for the commuter crowd as well.

Something that does need sorted however are the pedestrian sections of the Clyde Tunnel. Not a comfortable place to be at all on a bike, never mind walking!

Just had a thought as well, would the lanes be suitable for segregated cycle lanes given how little traffic you find on them anyway? Just need resurfaced and they would be good to go.
 

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Well if we're gonna list clubs, the following is a 15 mile radius search from St Georges Cross:

http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/clubfinder

Glasgow Green Cycle Club
Glasgow Ivy CC
Glasgow Riderz
Alpine Bikes Racing
Glasgow Whls
Strathclyde Police Recreation Association
Glasgow Glenmarnock Wheelers
Lomond Roads CC
Western Titans BMX Club
Glasgow MTB Club (GMBC)
Rockhard MBC
Glasgow Nightingale CC
www.Dooleys-Cycles.co.uk
Paisley Velo Cycling Club
Glasgow East Amateur Riders
VC Glasgow South
Paisley Velo Race Team
Glasgow Road Club
Icarus Racing
Glasgow United CC
Chryston Wheelers
St Christopher's CC
VC Astar Anderside
Team Cycle Lane
Race Engineering
East Kilbride Road Club
Scottish XC MTB Association
Johnstone Wheelers CC
Glasgow Couriers
Cumbernauld Centurions BMX Club
Motherwell Mountain Bike Club
Royal Albert CC
Pro-AM RC
I had no idea there were so many!
 

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I'm curious as to what their definition of a "bicycle friendly road" is.

If they mean a pothole filled and parked car blocked buslane then they got it in one. Great Western Road, Union Street, Hope Street, Paisley Road West? Bicycle friendly my arse.
 

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Noticed this new layer on google maps recently:

God, this really highlights how pathetically fragmented the bike provisions are in the city.

Really interesting to see Dublin have got a scheme too. Didn't have that last time i was there. Interesting model too, to get it paid for in exchange for advertising pitches.

Wonder who we could get to pay for Glasgow's?

Co-op bank? They are going through massive expansion and i they have always had a strong presence in Scotland.

Diageo? o2 (given they are a big employer here)

Wonder what the setup cost would be. Probably not as much as you would think.
 

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Will have to be completely segregated (could they put greenery, bushes, etc? to seperate them?) cycle lanes from each corner of the city to the centre and back again. Glasgow has to learn that the only way to succeed is to do things comprehensively and completely. Doing things in halves, or more typically 100ths, won't cut it anymore.
This. I'm sick of so much of the shite that passes for development in this city. I'd rather we didn't do anything than do a half-arsed job that merely raises hopes then falls apart in a few years.
I'm all for cycle-lanes, but they need to be just that - lanes, not some pishy terrifying little hard-shoulder of death.
 

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It should be a priority to identify 3 or 4 key commuter routes into the city centre and making them top notch.

And also, the council need to look at that map and start joining up as many cycle lanes as possible, having the best quality 'Copenhagen' tracks is good, but they are no use if they don't go anywhere.
 

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Personally I'm surprised that the A80 is still dualled. They should be singling it (as they did with the A77) and segregating part of the second carriageway for cycling on. Went down it the other week and it was dead, there's clearly no need for the capacity it offers since the M80 extension went live.

They also need secure cycle parking in the city as well. How about adding a secure storage area in the basements of the multis in town? What about Central Station basement? Is it also unreasonable to ask that a section 106 (or Scottish equivalent if that's not the right one) be applied to any new development with parking provision to also provide safe and secure cycle parking and facilities for cyclists to wash and change (in the case of offices) as well as proper cycle access within the site and to it where road improvements are being made?

Been reading a lot on Transport Management in the last few days and it's done nothing but wind me up when you consider how we're constantly being forced to rely on cars to get anywhere or do anything.

Public transport as well, more bike places on trains!
 

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Encouraging Cycling


Glasgow City Council is developing the Glasgow Cycle Network that comprises 375km of identified routes.
Glasgow's Strategic Plan for Cycling - 2010 to 2020 Glasgow recognises that cycling has an important role in contributing to the health and wellbeing of those who live, work and visit the city - this plan will give you an indepth look at how we intend to make Cycling the biggest participation activity in the City by 2020.
 

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To help cater for all standards of cyclists, the network includes:

cycle lanes on the carriageway (the suicidal)
off-road cycle tracks (the safari lovers)
designated routes in parks (the slalomers)
signalled crossings at main roads (more slalomers)
quality bus corridors (if the cycle lanes didn't get you)
advanced stop lines at traffic signals (provided a taxi or bus isn't there first)
traffic calmed or lightly trafficked streets (the potholers)
That report says bugger all except about expanding the cycle network. It doesn't really say how it will be achieved or executed other than a brief sentence about people being afraid of traffic and stuff about sharing pavement space with peds (bad idea!).
 
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