Nooooooooo!!!11!1eleven!!1!!murdomac said:chief, m riaz is none other than Ste........aaarrgghh......!!!!!!!!!
(sound of body collapsing over keyboard with dagger embedded between shoulder blades)
Actually, surprisingly enough, I thought it looked worse without any proper detailing, but hey ho...outofchaosaworld said:Is it just me or does the Hadid building look slightly less crap when given the Sketchup Etchasketch treatment?
Using a 'proper' 3d package isnt a talent, its a skill. Sketchup has its place. I have been using it extensively for a couple of years now and as a design tool its fantastic. As an interim presentation tool its very good. For finished images its crap. You can though use it to give you something you can take into Photoshop and tinker with to an acceptable degree. Where it differs to other 3d packages is its directness. Its simple and intuitive enough that you can use it to tinker and develop a design whereas with something like ADT or Max you have to think more about the mechanics of what you are drawing or modelling.maccoinnich said:For some reason using SketchUp for presentation purposes really bothers me. It's so noticeable when a drawing has been made in the program, and this one is particularly lazy. It screams of not being talented enough to use a proper 3d package.
I know, but you *can* use it for presentation images if you use a bit of Photoshop on the output. Raytraced images can be terribly dull and very dead. There is a place for something, well, 'sketchier'. Your usual Max/Viz type image leaves little room for the imagination.maccoinnich said:No, that's what I'm saying; SketchUp is great. For exploring ideas it's fantastic, quick, and easy. But the rendered images are really poor, because its not designed for presentation - no Raytracing here. And I just don't think people should use it for what it's clearly not intended for.
Thats like saying a pencil isnt a presentation tool because it cant produce photorealistic images. In fact Max cant produce usable images without the use of Photoshop in my experience either. It allows imagination because it lets you produce something which is slightly more abstract than the kind of thing that the whole Max scenario tends to drag you towards. For verifiable images for planners its obviously useless, but for something for clients that leaves some room for them to imagine how they might influence a scheme its great.maccoinnich said:Yeah, but photoshop covers a multitude of sins; you can turn AutoCAD drawings into beautiful graphics with enough tinkering.
That we can easily identify SketchUp pictures surely shows that it doesn't really allow a whole of lot of imagination (apart from the colour and transparency of a material, your choices extend as far as, oh, whether there's jitter on the lines, whether the lines extend, and how thick they are).