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Now that the Ravensbourne college & ofices for Tfl are U/C its time for its own thread.

Between now & 2012 there should be quite a bit happening along the Peninsula.

Overview of the site
http://www.greenwichpeninsula.co.uk/about_masterplan.php4

Farrell TFL buildings


F-O-A Ravensbourne College
http://www.rave.ac.uk/greenwichpeninsula/flythrough.htm



Flacq designed apartment block including 23 storey tower for Crest Nicholson


Jestico & Whiles apartment block for Bellway homes



Greenwich Millennium Village
http://www.union-gmv.co.uk/setting
 

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There's a also the Stock Woolstencroft building, but their website doesn't seem to be working today.


Also looking through the planning apps, found reference to this:

Proposed mixed use development comprising one building of five elements of a
maximum height of 122 metres, accommodating 397 residential units and 821 sqm
(GEA) retail floor area (A1/A2/A3) with associated basement car parking and servicing,
access, private and communal amenity space and landscaping.

Location: LAND TO THE SOUTH-WEST OF THE 02 AND ADJACENT TO THE RIVER THAMES (PLOT NO602) GREENWICH PENINSULAR, GREENWICH, SE10

http://onlineplanning.greenwich.gov.uk/acolnet/planningpages/AcolNetCGI.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=41975

I don't think this is one of the ones we've seen already. I guess its the first proposal for one of the buildings on the river directly facing the Isle of Dogs.
 

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A site we were not expecting much is turning a nice collection of contemporary buildings
Never heard on this latest pp Henry...Looks like (SW of the O2) that it is the only the hotel supposed to be build with the defunct supercasino.
 

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Thats the one Fitz. And this 122m one is definitely something new, its only at consultation stage at the moment. I think its one of the ones facing Canary Wharf on the masterplan, you can see them on this tiny image if you squint:

 

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nah it aint new. ive lost count of the amount of times i have mentioned in perhaps the past five or six years in print a tower going in that exact position.
 

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If you wanna see part of what it'll look like, just take a trip to North Greenwhich, right outside the station the hoardings have multiple oversized renderings of the current area of construction. I we are to believe what they depict, i'm afraid it'll be a row of the same building along the river, to the model of which is being built right now.
 

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Lookin at the selection of projects illustrated at the top of this pic makes me think that maybe Boris becoming mayor might not be such a terrible thing after all..
 

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I disagree, I'm quite excited by the Greenwich peninsula. I happen to believe that there are some pretty good architects around at the moment but that up until now we've only seen them building on sites that sit within a built environment dominated by buildings from an earlier era. Those juxtapositions can be exciting and London is all the richer for them. But the resulting buildings are, if they are a success, usually either self consciously individualist or modestly deferential to their surroundings. What we so far haven't been able to see is what the best of our contemporary architects would do with a whole city district (Canary Wharf aside). How will they handle the balance between achieving variety in the building styles whilst also creating a sense of shared identity? What textures and surfaces will predominate? Will the masterplan have got the mix of uses right and in the right places? And who will live there?
I'm excited to see how this turns out. I think the early signs are encouraging, the names of architects so far mentioned are pretty good (I'm a little concerned about Stock Woolstencroft). It will be interesting to see how this new district compares to areas like Chelsea, Bloomsbury, Soho or Bayswater as a place to live and work in, go out in and just to walk around.
 

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I'm really interested in this development. London doesn't currently have another area like this. I mean it has actually been masterplanned! The Olympic Village / Stratford City will probably have a similar feel. It looks like a contemporary Dutch or other North European development to me. There are parks, wide roads, segregated cycle paths and public transport routes. There is nowhere else in London where people can live in such a habitat. It will be very interesting to see if it works.
 

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It's now a field trip to many planning students from continental Europe, a Uk bestpractice alongside Bedzed in Sutton and the Fribourg Ecotown in Germany.

Good masterplan, very high eco targets, real mixed area, good architecture, pleasant environment and now, good transport.
 

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I'm really interested in this development. London doesn't currently have another area like this. I mean it has actually been masterplanned! The Olympic Village / Stratford City will probably have a similar feel. It looks like a contemporary Dutch or other North European development to me. There are parks, wide roads, segregated cycle paths and public transport routes. There is nowhere else in London where people can live in such a habitat. It will be very interesting to see if it works.
Who knows people might start to see what good design is and that their Octagon pitched roof dreams are misplaced. Hopefully well thought out development like this will start to become more frequent across the country. One problem that i think prevents this is land ownership im guessing the peninsula was owned by one group? Large areas of land like this are hard to come by in this country.
 

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Well I didn't know that Manuel! Glad to know there is some good news amongst the deluge of crap housing suburbia.

Pompey77 - it was originally old industrial land decontaminated and laid out as part of the Millenium Dome project which included all the north and east of the peninsular. Not that anyone ever heard about that, all we heard about was an expensive tent. It has now been sold on for next to nothing, but the profits will be shared with the Government.
 

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The soil was so toxic that people weren't allowed to walk around the area for more than ten minutes without protective gear. It really was a dangerous area to be in.

The Dome project cleared all those toxins out. But you wouldn't have guessed from the media reports of the time.
 

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The soil was so toxic that people weren't allowed to walk around the area for more than ten minutes without protective gear. It really was a dangerous area to be in.

The Dome project cleared all those toxins out. But you wouldn't have guessed from the media reports of the time.
Quell surprise! that would've meant reporting something positive!

Things are really starting to move out there now and, thankfully it may be far enough East for Bojotheberk to leave it be...

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That Foreign Office Architects college design is terrible. But I really like the mix of uses proposed for the area something that Canary Wharf sorely lacks. This along with other developments like Silvertown Quays will really stretch what can be called ‘Central London’ to a whole new area. Atm I don’t consider CW to be ‘Central London’ because it sits out on the isle of Dogs on its own surrounded by fairly low density development. With the peninsular et al becoming (hopefully) vibrant areas of high density employment and homes where people can also hang around and shop, eat, drink and be educated etc i.e. live their lives. That idea of CW being separate and isolated will change. Well it will in my mind at least.

It is remarkable how a whole new area of London is about to spring up from the sod. To me this is, in many ways, more exciting than the new developments in The City. With those there is always a sense that they exist, or will exist, to the detriment of older and often much finer buildings that they replace or overshadow. I do like most people on here relish the contrast between old and new which is unique to The City. However there is always a sense that modern buildings in that area represent what has been lost of an older more elegant London - the so called city of spires. And that these buildings are the legacy of the destruction of that city. With developments like the peninsular there is a clean slate; nothing of any value has been lost and it can be built without being detrimental to other fine buildings, views etc.

P.S what is the likely future of the O2 casino hotel thing? I always thought a tower there was a terrible idea and that it should be a small park to give the dome space to breathe and preserve its silhouette. I know that’s contrary to what I have written above but the dome is fairly new and I am a contrary sort of person.
 

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Pompey:

It is exciting to see the development but...

You talk about regeneration in the city and I can only think of how soulless Spitalfields is now, sure, it looks great but it seems like its all geared towards catching the lunchtime pound from the city.

That's also the problem at CW, very few of the original "islanders" seem to feel comfortable using the new facilities and there is very little they can call thier own. It's a shame.

Nothing against "high end" stuff, we need more mixed development IMHO.

Congrats on the cup by the way, as a Hammer it was great to see Arry win some silverware.

CF
 
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