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This property is in the street running off Bath Lane.

15/00595/SCR | Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units | Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT

Reference 15/00595/SCR
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Application Received Fri 30 Oct 2015
Application Validated Fri 30 Oct 2015
Address Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT
Proposal Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units
Status Registered
Decision Not Available
https://publicaccessapplications.newcastle.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NX8VGKBS0DL00

No documents with the application at the moment.
 

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can't wait to see the planning docs for this, sounds quite interesting and rutherford street has been derelict ever since SJB was built.
 

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This property is in the street running off Bath Lane.

15/00595/SCR | Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units | Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT

Reference 15/00595/SCR
Alternative Reference Not Available
Application Received Fri 30 Oct 2015
Application Validated Fri 30 Oct 2015
Address Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT
Proposal Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units
Status Registered
Decision Not Available
https://publicaccessapplications.newcastle.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NX8VGKBS0DL00

No documents with the application at the moment.
can't wait to see the planning docs for this, sounds quite interesting and rutherford street has been derelict ever since SJB was built.
For anyone wondering, this is the plot in question

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This property is in the street running off Bath Lane. 15/00595/SCR | Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units | Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT Reference 15/00595/SCR Alternative Reference Not Available Application Received Fri 30 Oct 2015 Application Validated Fri 30 Oct 2015 Address Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT Proposal Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units Status Registered Decision Not Available https://publicaccessapplications.newcastle.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NX8VGKBS0DL00 No documents with the application at the moment.
They will be asked to reduce the height. Mark my words. We couldn't possible have a skyscraper trust sticks out of our boring flat skyline. To be honest I am not sure that is the right location for a 20 storey building- on top of the metro at st James maybe.
 

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£30million block of superflats to be built near St James' Park in Newcastle

This property is in the street running off Bath Lane.

15/00595/SCR | Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units | Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT

Reference 15/00595/SCR
Alternative Reference Not Available
Application Received Fri 30 Oct 2015
Application Validated Fri 30 Oct 2015
Address Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT
Proposal Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units
Status Registered
Decision Not Available
https://publicaccessapplications.newcastle.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NX8VGKBS0DL00

No documents with the application at the moment.
From today's Chronicle Live, copyright NCJMedia Ltd @ http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/30million-block-superflats-built-near-10466504
£30million block of superflats to be built near St James' Park in Newcastle
19 Nov 2015 By Lisa Hutchinson

A proposed £30m 20 storey block of top spec apartments looks set to become a Newcastle landmark.

The building, designed by FaulknerBrowns Architects, is being proposed for Rutherford Street, adjacent to St James’ Boulevard and near to St James’ Park.

The building will be home to top specification private rental apartments. The project promoter, Stonegate Developments Limited, says the project will be funded by some of the established national and international investment bodies, which see Newcastle as a growing city of international importance worthy of significant investment.

Andrew Rennie, managing director of Stonegate Developments Limited, said: “This proposal will be one of the most significant housing investments undertaken in Newcastle City. It will bring many millions of pounds of inward investment to the city and add to the vibrancy of the city centre economy. It is aimed at the growing number of professionals embracing city centre living, offering them an attractive residence and enabling them to spend their money within the city centre and contribute to its growing economy. The scheme will be funded by national and international investors who see Newcastle as a place of growth and importance in the Northern Powerhouse. The landmark building that will result is entirely in keeping with the ambition of the local authority to enhance this important main approach to the city and will balance the physical appearance of St James’ Boulevard, which has seen impressive new development at Gallowgate and with future plans for Science Central.”

Paul Rigby, a partner with FaulknerBrowns Architects, added: “In one aspect, this scheme represents a new landmark gateway into Newcastle’s thriving urban core. In another, it provides an opportunity to improve the public realm in and around the existing site. The regeneration celebrates Rutherford Street’s historic context - complementing the adjacent Grade II listed Printworks Building - whilst creating high quality residential space which adds significant value to the streetscape.”

Read more @ http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/30million-block-superflats-built-near-10466504
 

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From today's Chronicle Live, copyright NCJMedia Ltd @ http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/30million-block-superflats-built-near-10466504
£30million block of superflats to be built near St James' Park in Newcastle
19 Nov 2015 By Lisa Hutchinson

A proposed £30m 20 storey block of top spec apartments looks set to become a Newcastle landmark.

The building, designed by FaulknerBrowns Architects, is being proposed for Rutherford Street, adjacent to St James’ Boulevard and near to St James’ Park.

The building will be home to top specification private rental apartments. The project promoter, Stonegate Developments Limited, says the project will be funded by some of the established national and international investment bodies, which see Newcastle as a growing city of international importance worthy of significant investment.

Andrew Rennie, managing director of Stonegate Developments Limited, said: “This proposal will be one of the most significant housing investments undertaken in Newcastle City. It will bring many millions of pounds of inward investment to the city and add to the vibrancy of the city centre economy. It is aimed at the growing number of professionals embracing city centre living, offering them an attractive residence and enabling them to spend their money within the city centre and contribute to its growing economy. The scheme will be funded by national and international investors who see Newcastle as a place of growth and importance in the Northern Powerhouse. The landmark building that will result is entirely in keeping with the ambition of the local authority to enhance this important main approach to the city and will balance the physical appearance of St James’ Boulevard, which has seen impressive new development at Gallowgate and with future plans for Science Central.”

Paul Rigby, a partner with FaulknerBrowns Architects, added: “In one aspect, this scheme represents a new landmark gateway into Newcastle’s thriving urban core. In another, it provides an opportunity to improve the public realm in and around the existing site. The regeneration celebrates Rutherford Street’s historic context - complementing the adjacent Grade II listed Printworks Building - whilst creating high quality residential space which adds significant value to the streetscape.”

Read more @ http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/30million-block-superflats-built-near-10466504

Further to the above article, I noticed the below 'advert' in this mornings Journal.

Amazingly, having placed the notice, when you go to the suggested Website, there is currently practically NOTHING there.

Hopefully it will become more populated with information etc after the 1st December event . . .

 

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I smell cow manure.
166 units? not student residential?
Looking at the rough size of the site it's impossible to see how 166 units at an average 60sqm each would fit within 20 storeys.

Let's hope it's just a typo! 66 units sounds realistic.

Odd site for high rise, it's adjacent to but not by a threshold.

What gives me hope is the fact Faulkner Brown are working on it. They are the most successful practice in the North East and they didn't get to where they are by working with cowboy developers.
 

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I smell cow manure.
166 units? not student residential?
Looking at the rough size of the site it's impossible to see how 166 units at an average 60sqm each would fit within 20 storeys.

Let's hope it's just a typo! 66 units sounds realistic.

Odd site for high rise, it's adjacent to but not by a threshold.

What gives me hope is the fact Faulkner Brown are working on it. They are the most successful practice in the North East and they didn't get to where they are by working with cowboy developers.
Rental apartment schemes are being proposed all across the UK now and have the backing of major banks and such like who see it as a way to establish big corporations within the rental market. Basically slightly nicer student residential for 20-somethings who have already been conditioned to rabbit-hutch living.

It is a good sign if there's been plenty of discussions with the council already and as you say the developers have a top local firm on the case.
 

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This property is in the street running off Bath Lane.

15/00595/SCR | Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units | Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT

Reference 15/00595/SCR
Alternative Reference Not Available
Application Received Fri 30 Oct 2015
Application Validated Fri 30 Oct 2015
Address Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5DT
Proposal Screening opinion for the development of a 20 storey residential develoment comprising 166 No. residential units
Status Registered
Decision Not Available
https://publicaccessapplications.newcastle.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NX8VGKBS0DL00

No documents with the application at the moment.
There are now 2 Documents for this proposed development and it has grown to 24 storey, cheers
 

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Vacant Commercial Premises 27 Rutherford Street

There are now 2 Documents for this proposed development and it has grown to 24 storey, cheers
Indeed and one of the documents is the screening opinion response, issued 23rd November 2015 - pertinent part being:


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I'm surprised that the list of nearby listed sites in the 'screening opinion' omits its proximity to the line of Hadrian's Wall which is just a few metres away. As a World Heritage site, it's surely not insignificant. When I've looked at plans for other buildings in the general area (such as Downing) they've always had some mention or other of being aware of its proximity.

On the other hand, I'm broadly in favour of the idea, depending of course on what the designs look like.
 

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This proposal faces one hell of a battle to gain planning. I would love to see something break up the mid rise elevations of the boulevard which is pretty mundane and has failed to deliver the sense of arrival and gravitas the boulevard was supposed to offer. Its just seems to be in the wrong place with all the listed and ancient buildings around it. Personally I hope it is successful and offers quality development that can fit in with its historic neighbours but that is going to be very difficult. Fingers Crossed.
 

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This proposal faces one hell of a battle to gain planning. I would love to see something break up the mid rise elevations of the boulevard which is pretty mundane and has failed to deliver the sense of arrival and gravitas the boulevard was supposed to offer. Its just seems to be in the wrong place with all the listed and ancient buildings around it. Personally I hope it is successful and offers quality development that can fit in with its historic neighbours but that is going to be very difficult. Fingers Crossed.
Its not in a conservation area so development will be presumed in favour.

If it enhances, rather than detracts in its design then i can't see a problem with it.

Have some faith :banana:
 

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It is in the Central Conservation Area - as indicated in the scan of the letter I posted the other day.
Bullocks. Right on the edge so I see.

Still, if The Gate can be built that close to the Blackfriars then a much thinner 24 storey building should be able to be as well.

Interesting to note that non of EPS is in a conservation area. Maybe they should build some 24 storey residential blocks over there instead.
 

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Bullocks. Right on the edge so I see.

Still, if The Gate can be built that close to the Blackfriars then a much thinner 24 storey building should be able to be as well.

Interesting to note that non of EPS is in a conservation area. Maybe they should build some 24 storey residential blocks over there instead.
Yes just inside the boundary, check out the Constraints for the property on the planning portal @ https://publicaccessapplications.newcastle.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=constraints&keyVal=NX8VGKBS0DL00

Central Conservation Area Conservation Area Designated

Also there are maps of the conservation area @ https://www.newcastle.gov.uk/wwwfileroot/legacy/regen/plantrans/Central.pdf

I assume that part of Bath Lane was included within the conservation area to protect the likes of the former Cooperative Printing Worls.

No doubt the height of The Gate was allowed owing to the height of its predecessor, Newgate House.
 

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Heads up for those in town - Consultation event for the Rutherford Street tower is being held today from 3pm to 7pm at the Royal Station Hotel.
 
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