[Minato ku]

How work the U4 exactly ? when I was in hamburg in August 2011, I saw at the showroom on the Jungfernstieg that the line share platforms with the U2 at Jungfernstieg station.
Does the U4 continues further on the U2 infrastructure ?

 

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The U4 starts in Billstedt, sharing tracks with U2. At Jungfernstieg, the tracks are separated but the platforms are shared. U2 continues to Niendorf as before, while U4 continues in a huge curve to the two new stations in the Hafencity development area.

 

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^^ So no trams at all in Hamburg in the near future? And no U- or S-Bahn extensions too?

No trams (although wild ideas for tram lines occasionally pop up in local news).

Currently there are concrete plans to replace the regional rail line R10 by a regular S-Bahn line (S4) probably using dual-power-system trains like S3 currently does.

More diffuse are plans for a U4 extension to Wilhelmsburg.

 

[manrush]

No trams (although wild ideas for tram lines occasionally pop up in local news).

Currently there are concrete plans to replace the regional rail line R10 by a regular S-Bahn line (S4) probably using dual-power-system trains like S3 currently does.

More diffuse are plans for a U4 extension to Wilhelmsburg.

Would they ever replace the defunct stadtbahn scheme, with say, a bus rapid transit scheme?

 

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Would they ever replace the defunct stadtbahn scheme, with say, a bus rapid transit scheme?

There is already a network of main bus routes that stands apart from the regular bus routes. Those "metrobuses" have 10-minutes frequency and line numbers below 50, but you could hardly call them BRT.

One of the first actions of the new mayor after the recent elections was cancelling the stadtbahn project (that had already been ripped to pieces in the local media). A couple of months later they came up with bus acceleration plans worth 259 million euros. A few of those measures are currently under construction, like bus priority at some traffic lights.

 

[trainrover]

HAMBURG |

 

[trainrover]

If restless, FF to 0'35" (only 1 passby)

 

[Kr0x]

Double-articulated Metrobus on line 5:


1000_Metrobus 5_Staatsbibliothek von NahverkehrHAMBURG auf Flickr

U-Bahn and S-Bahn meeting near Berliner Tor station:


U-Bahn Hamburg am Berliner Tor von NahverkehrHAMBURG auf Flickr

And of course the newest U-Bahn generation DT5:


DT5 von NahverkehrHAMBURG auf Flickr

 

[Falubaz]

^^i always loved both the U- and S-bahn trains in hamburg, and the biarticulated buses are also nice, but the newest metro train doesnt look good to me. It's too 'eckig'

 

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^^ Yes, not the best design. And isn't it weird how they painted only the upper half of every door?

 

[Svartmetall]

What were they thinking with those "new" trains. They look absolutely dire.

 

[Kr0x]

Actually I like the edges and the side view, but I'm not so sure about the front, it may be a little dark with its black glass. Some more pics:


HHA DT5 von kevin.hackert auf Flickr

Inside, the DT5 allows to walk through the cars which was not possible on the previous models:


DT5 304 (13.11.2012) von Mario Schlegel auf Flickr

The U-Bahn exists for 102 years. Old and new together:


T11 und DT5 307 an der Hoch- und S-Bahnstation Barmbek von Mario Schlegel auf Flickr

 

[Silly_Walks]

Double-articulated Metrobus on line 5:

U-Bahn and S-Bahn meeting near Berliner Tor station:


U-Bahn Hamburg am Berliner Tor von NahverkehrHAMBURG auf Flickr

Cool, the U-Bahn train reminds me of the older metro trains of Amsterdam and Athens, with the aluminium and red/orange.

 

[Kr0x]

^^ Actually the U-Bahn in the pic and those similar looking trains in Amsterdam were built by the same manufacturer (Linke-Hofmann-Busch).

 

[elliot42]

^^ Yes, not the best design. And isn't it weird how they painted only the upper half of every door?

--They look like something out of Logan's Run or Babylon 5. :nuts:

 

[tunnel owl]

^^ Actually the U-Bahn in the pic and those similar looking trains in Amsterdam were built by the same manufacturer (Linke-Hofmann-Busch).

which is no surprise, because the Hochbahn-owned company Hamburg-Consult was the main partner for development of new Amsterdam Metro in the early 70s.

Additionally metro-trainsets of Lissabon had been built by LHB too, also looking similar. Same for the metro-trains for Athenes from 1989. They have been built by AEG, later on at Hellenic shipyards, but were developed together with Hamburg-Consult.

This design is something what you expect for Hamburgs U-Bahn, like no one wants to have LU with green trains e. g. It´s colourless high-grade-steel. They had to order special workers from Brazil, because wealding this is a weird thing to do.

I personally like the DT5. It is wider than the old trains (about 2,65 m). This is a standard-profile in Germany which should be the minimum for Stadtbahn and U-Bahn. It´s the widest gauge for Stadtbahn-trains running on streets and it is more comfortable for PRM (wheelchairs, buggy, bike etc.

Here is a picture of Hafencity Universität station, late 2012 before it´s official opening.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/720x540q90/59/ycg1.jpg

Kind regards

 

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^^ A certain type of Dublin's DART trains are also members of that old LHB train family and look similar. http://mic-ro.com/metro/families.html

 

[Minato ku]

The picture with the oldest and newest stocks is great.

 

[dimlys1994]

From Rail Journal:

http://www.railjournal.com/index.ph...ws-new-hamburg-s-bahn-trains.html?channel=542

DB previews new Hamburg S-Bahn trains
Monday, June 16, 2014

A full-size mock-up of the class 490 EMU for the Hamburg S-Bahn network was unveiled on June 16 by Mr Kay Uwe Arnecke, managing director of German Rail (DB) subsidiary S-Bahn Hamburg, minister of transport for the City of Hamburg Mr Andreas Rieckhof, and Mr Dietrich Hartmann, CEO of Hamburg transport authority HVV.

S-Bahn Hamburg ordered 60 of the three-car trains from Bombardier in June 2013 in a €327m deal which includes four dual-voltage sets capable of operating on both 1.2kV dc S-Bahn network and the standard German 15kV 16.7Hz system.

The first eight trains, including two of the dual-voltage sets, will be delivered for trials at the end of 2016 and the entire fleet is due to enter service by the end of 2018. This will enable the withdrawal of the fleet of class 472 trains, which date from the early 1980s.

 

[metr0p0litain]

DT5 on U3 to Schlump/Barmbek arriving at Baumwall:


P1610794 by Lumixfan68 on Flickr