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Bonjour Casablanca
Hard Rock Cafe va bientôt ouvrir un restaurant à Casablanca. Savez vous à quelle adresse exacte le restaurant sera t il situé ? Auriez vous une photo actuelle du lieu où sera construit le Hard Rock Cafe? Ou pourriez-vous prendre une photo et me l envoyer ? Serait-il situé dans le "Morocco Mall" ? Merci beaucoup

Upcoming new Hard Rock Cafe locations include St. Petersburg, Fortaleza, Casablanca and Chengdu.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...ad-of-global-hotel-development-300624984.html
 

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Are you sure it's in THIS Casablanca?

Bonjour Casablanca
Hard Rock Cafe va bientôt ouvrir un restaurant à Casablanca. Savez vous à quelle adresse exacte le restaurant sera t il situé ? Auriez vous une photo actuelle du lieu où sera construit le Hard Rock Cafe? Ou pourriez-vous prendre une photo et me l envoyer ? Serait-il situé dans le "Morocco Mall" ? Merci beaucoup

Upcoming new Hard Rock Cafe locations include St. Petersburg, Fortaleza, Casablanca and Chengdu.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...ad-of-global-hotel-development-300624984.html
Hello hardrocker,

There are 34 places in the world called Casablanca. https://us.geotargit.com/called.php?qcity=Casablanca
And it's most improbable the HRC will ever get a permit to open an establishment in a place like Morocco, here is why:
https://islamqa.info/en/5000
Perhaps it's one of the Casablancas on the Canary Islands?
 

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Hahaha... on en lit parfois des bien bonnes dans ce forum...
Je crois que ce forumer n'est jamais venu trainer du côté de "notre Casablanca".

Hello hardrocker,

There are 34 places in the world called Casablanca. https://us.geotargit.com/called.php?qcity=Casablanca
And it's most improbable the HRC will ever get a permit to open an establishment in a place like Morocco, here is why:
https://islamqa.info/en/5000
Perhaps it's one of the Casablancas on the Canary Islands?
 

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Honestly I have no clue which Casablanca it will be, but I guess it will be Morocco. I´m following the Hard Rock Cafe progress since many many years and during the last years they opened more and more Cafes in new countries without a Hard Rock Cafe.

A few years ago there were plans for a HRC in Marrakech but this failed last minute so I´m sure they will try it again in Morocco now in Casablanca.

If it would be on one of the Canary Islands they would call the cafe like the island. For example they used to have a Cafe called Gran Canaria many years ago and right now they have a Cafe called Tenerife

btw, Tunisia also has a Hard Rock Cafe ;)

Hello hardrocker,

There are 34 places in the world called Casablanca. https://us.geotargit.com/called.php?qcity=Casablanca
And it's most improbable the HRC will ever get a permit to open an establishment in a place like Morocco, here is why:
https://islamqa.info/en/5000
Perhaps it's one of the Casablancas on the Canary Islands?
 

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So music is not forbidden in Morocco?

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Hello, I am quite surprised to read your reactions, I always thought Islam was very strict about things like dress codes, gender separation, no smoking and drinking alcohol, no music, no fun, only praying, working and fighting. Not unlike hardcore stalinist Communism or even worse than that, because under Stalin at least classical music and communist combat hymns were allowed and encouraged, but Western dress (jeans etc.) and pop/jazz music were forbidden and people wearing or listening to these could be arrested, beaten up or sent to camps.
In my city there is an Islam school called Al Fitrah which is under investigation by the municipality and public prosecution because they teach just the kind of things Muslims should do (pray, fight, separate women and men, hate infidels like Jews and Christians) and not do (listen to music, drink alcohol, smoke, go to MacDonalds etc.), see https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2016/12/1...-eenzijdig-maar-zonder-dwang-5795771-a1536698 and https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/12/1...paign=nboverig&utm_content=&utm_term=20180425. Such stories abound here in the media, so it is VERY surprising to see that in Morocco itself things seem to be much more liberal. Is there such a thing like "couscous-islam"? (That's a name I minted in analogy to Hungarian "goulash communism" which was more liberal than hardcore Soviet and DDR communism, in the seventies and eighties of the last century up to certain limits Hungarians could buy records with Western pop music, wear Western dress, travel to Western countries and maintain small private business while this was much more limited or even totally impossible in USSR and East Germany, and in DDR returning holidaymakers from Hungary were thoroughly searched for forbidden items which were on free sale in Hungary but not in East Berlin or Leipzig. There was a kind of tacit social contract: we allow you some Western-style fun but do not question our -at least nominally- Soviet-style communism.) How has Islam in Morocco managed to be compatible with Western lifestyle? And if Morocco is so liberal, why do the papers always write about Moroccans advocating an austere and militaristic lifestyle based on Koran and on strict Sharia rules?
 

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Hello, I am quite surprised to read your reactions, I always thought Islam was very strict about things like dress codes, gender separation, no smoking and drinking alcohol, no music, no fun, only praying, working and fighting. Not unlike hardcore stalinist Communism or even worse than that, because under Stalin at least classical music and communist combat hymns were allowed and encouraged, but Western dress (jeans etc.) and pop/jazz music were forbidden and people wearing or listening to these could be arrested, beaten up or sent to camps.
In my city there is an Islam school called Al Fitrah which is under investigation by the municipality and public prosecution because they teach just the kind of things Muslims should do (pray, fight, separate women and men, hate infidels like Jews and Christians) and not do (listen to music, drink alcohol, smoke, go to MacDonalds etc.), see https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2016/12/1...-eenzijdig-maar-zonder-dwang-5795771-a1536698 and https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/12/1...paign=nboverig&utm_content=&utm_term=20180425. Such stories abound here in the media, so it is VERY surprising to see that in Morocco itself things seem to be much more liberal. Is there such a thing like "couscous-islam"? (That's a name I minted in analogy to Hungarian "goulash communism" which was more liberal than hardcore Soviet and DDR communism, in the seventies and eighties of the last century up to certain limits Hungarians could buy records with Western pop music, wear Western dress, travel to Western countries and maintain small private business while this was much more limited or even totally impossible in USSR and East Germany, and in DDR returning holidaymakers from Hungary were thoroughly searched for forbidden items which were on free sale in Hungary but not in East Berlin or Leipzig. There was a kind of tacit social contract: we allow you some Western-style fun but do not question our -at least nominally- Soviet-style communism.) How has Islam in Morocco managed to be compatible with Western lifestyle? And if Morocco is so liberal, why do the papers always write about Moroccans advocating an austere and militaristic lifestyle based on Koran and on strict Sharia rules?
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Hello, I am quite surprised to read your reactions, I always thought Islam was very strict about things like dress codes, gender separation, no smoking and drinking alcohol, no music, no fun, only praying, working and fighting. Not unlike hardcore stalinist Communism or even worse than that, because under Stalin at least classical music and communist combat hymns were allowed and encouraged, but Western dress (jeans etc.) and pop/jazz music were forbidden and people wearing or listening to these could be arrested, beaten up or sent to camps.
In my city there is an Islam school called Al Fitrah which is under investigation by the municipality and public prosecution because they teach just the kind of things Muslims should do (pray, fight, separate women and men, hate infidels like Jews and Christians) and not do (listen to music, drink alcohol, smoke, go to MacDonalds etc.), see https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2016/12/1...-eenzijdig-maar-zonder-dwang-5795771-a1536698 and https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/12/1...paign=nboverig&utm_content=&utm_term=20180425. Such stories abound here in the media, so it is VERY surprising to see that in Morocco itself things seem to be much more liberal. Is there such a thing like "couscous-islam"? (That's a name I minted in analogy to Hungarian "goulash communism" which was more liberal than hardcore Soviet and DDR communism, in the seventies and eighties of the last century up to certain limits Hungarians could buy records with Western pop music, wear Western dress, travel to Western countries and maintain small private business while this was much more limited or even totally impossible in USSR and East Germany, and in DDR returning holidaymakers from Hungary were thoroughly searched for forbidden items which were on free sale in Hungary but not in East Berlin or Leipzig. There was a kind of tacit social contract: we allow you some Western-style fun but do not question our -at least nominally- Soviet-style communism.) How has Islam in Morocco managed to be compatible with Western lifestyle? And if Morocco is so liberal, why do the papers always write about Moroccans advocating an austere and militaristic lifestyle based on Koran and on strict Sharia rules?
First in terms of administration Morocco doesn't apply any islamic law (charia) except for some family laws like inheritance. Most laws in Morocco are secular.

Secondly in terms of traditions most Moroccans don't know islam, they just apply what they tend to see from the parents and grand-parents which was much more based on the old berber traditions than with the actual islamic laws.

and finally Moroccans are great hypocrites, which tend to make laws and rules quite flexible :lol::lol: islamic laws included.

Second generation Moroccans in Europe tend to not know the Moroccan old secular and/or traditionnal berber traditions, while they are much more exposed to the true version of islam...which can be dangerous.
 
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