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Hargeisa: The Future Capital of the Federal Republic of Somalia.

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Written by Medeshivalley.com
Nov 11, 2010 at 07:13 PM


With failure of the government in Southern Somalia and the success of democracy in Somaliland , the chances of the country becoming ruled through a capital in the north with a president from Somaliland is becoming more and more feasible . The world seems to be fed up with the corruption in the south and the feud between the warlords, the clans and the head of the imported government that crashed last month for the third time in the last few years.

Somaliland has also a lot to look forward to this federation. The country has failed to get recognition by the world since it seceded from Somalia in 1991. All funding and development projects are mostly channelled through world organisations that see Somaliland as a region of Somalia and not as an independent nation.Another factor which may convince Somaliland politicians to opt for the union with mother Somalia could be the possible secessions with in the seceded Somaliland. Both Sool and Maakhir want to be part of Somalia and will not stop insurgency if Somaliland is recognised as a sovereign state.

Other factors include:

Almost 70 % of Somalis inhabit in southern Somalia particularly in the fertile lands of lower shabelle and Juba. The rest of the country particularly the north is semi-arid and arid lands that can hardly support the livelihood of the majority pastorailsts who dwell in most parts of the north. The nomads often shift between Ethiopia’s region 5 (Ogadenia ) and Somaliland in search of greener pastures.

Although Berbera port is vital for the export of livestock and other commodities to rich Gulf states, it is always vulnerable to the invasion of bigger land locked Ethiopia that is desperately in need of access to the sea. Greater Somalia will in this case guarantee stronger force to confront the long time enemy of the Somalis and could thwart any temptations towards occupying federal state of Somaliland.

Somalis have the same language, same religion and same colour. They can never be separated by boundaries or governments. A good example is that of Dijibouti which is mainly inhabited by Somalis. It is currently the hub of foreign travel for all Somalis. Even Wajir region of Kenya could not integrate into the mainstream population because of ethnicity and religion. The same goes for the Ogaden region in Ethiopia.

Facts like these may tempt the current president of Somaliland to grab any chance of becoming the leader of greater Somalia rather than being confined to Hargeisa and a nation that may not be recognised for the coming decades. The signs of the possible remarriage of Somalia and Somaliland has already been reported by the local media who have noticed the continual return of pan-Somalis into Somaliland the change of tune between Pentland and Somaliland .



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If Somalis or the world at large wanted Somalia to have peace, something like this or perhaps MMX's confederate plan would've been presented long ago. Today its only being remotely mentioned as some sort of possible deterrent to rising Islamic militancy. I wish this was a genuine plan to restore Somalia, it is unfortunately on the back burner until the Islamists give their next blow to the government in Mogadishu. My belief is that there is simply not enough time to create a new and viable government in either Hargeisa or Mogadishu, too much time has been squandered and its only a matter of time before the government in Mogadishu falls along with the remainder of the country, to the militants. Those who looked away from Somalia during the years of anarchy have lost the ultimate game and it is one of the great shames of our time that Somalia was allowed by neighbors and friends to dissolve into such a mess, I can't even begin to wonder how a stable future Somalia might view its former friends.
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I prefer the system of South Africa, three capitals; Hargeisa, Garowe and a regenerated Mogadishu.

Horta meel ha la isugu wada yimaado, Ka dib cidkastaa magaaladeeda ha horu mariso.
Janub, the demand for a Federal Somalia came right after the collapse of Barre's administration. Read the 90s articles of Dr Ali Fatah, the man who almost became PM in the recent selection. This is not a new thing. I do agree however that a good opportunity was missed in the 90s, lets forget about how the US bombed a conference where many great peacemakers died, there was still enough people to reconcile the groups. Not to mention the warlords were little boys compared to the current militants, and a well trained two thousand man Somali force loyal to the government could have easily dislodged them from the capital, the way the ICU did four years ago in June 2006.

Ayatulahi, wa ruunta, lakiin we shouldn't repeat the mistakes of the past.
and a well trained two thousand man Somali force loyal to the government could have easily dislodged them from the capital, the way the ICU did four years ago in June 2006.
That's what I've wondered for 19 long and frustrating years. Thinking about that has made me bald I swear.

The warlords in Mogadishu were always divided and no individual militia numbered more than 500 loyal bodyguards in most of the last 15 years, we even witnessed a motley crew of koranic students annihilate them all with the ease of brushing a hair. Before I knew the makeup of the TFG in 2004 I really thought I was going to see a showdown between good government vs. mog warlords for the first time since '91 but I realized things weren't so black & white and that my dream government were the warlords.

I vow not to lose another hair counting on Somali news to be positive or even clear.
Hargeisa is over 90% Northwestern Somalis only. Little diversity, not suitable as a capital.

I'm all for moving it either to Baidoa or building a new one from scratch, preferable somewhere in Hiraan province (because of its central location).
I was expecting some pictures of Hargeisa ^^
Somaliland wouldn't allow itself to house the "capital" of Somalia.

Facts like these may tempt the current president of Somaliland to grab any chance of becoming the leader of greater Somalia rather than being confined to Hargeisa and a nation that may not be recognised for the coming decades. The signs of the possible remarriage of Somalia and Somaliland has already been reported by the local media who have noticed the continual return of pan-Somalis into Somaliland the change of tune between Pentland and Somaliland .
The current President can dream of making a Greater Somalia but Somaliland constitution would stamp out that thought very quickly
Somaliland president was in djibouti lately and hasn't even pressurized our president to recognize their statehood. I think the guy is a big pan Somalist.
Somaliland president was in djibouti lately and hasn't even pressurized our president to recognize their statehood. I think the guy is a big pan Somalist.
He can be whatever he wants. He knows it is not going to ever get anywhere without a referendum so I'm not that bothered :lol:

I hope he is pan Somalist. That will shut up all the other Somali's who claim Somaliland stifles free speech. Win/win
Ismaaciil Buubaa oo Qarxiyey Qorshe Dib Loogu Mideynayo Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya

Written by Qaran news
Nov 12, 2010 at 06:12 AM
"..Danta Somaliland waxay ku jirtaa inay ummadda Somaliyeed ka mid noqdaan oo weliba Hargeysi noqoto Magaalo-madaxda dalka ama Madaxwaynaha Soomaaliyeed yahay mid ka soo Jeedan Somaliland diyaar baa loo yahay..


"..Saaxiibkay Muuse Biixi Waxaan leeyahay malaha Weli Dagaalkii Maryo-aloolka iyo Fedaraalka ayaan si Fiican uga soo Bixin..''


"..Aad iyo aad baan u soo Dhoweynayaa (Safarka Cismaan Kaluun ku tegay Hargeysa), anniga Laftigaygu waan ku Socdaa.."

Md. Ismaaciil Hurre Buubaa


Hargeysa(Yool)-Siyaasiga weyn ee Caanka ah Md. Ismaaciil Hurre Buubaa, kana mida Xubnaha u dhashay Somaliland, balse aaminsan fikirka Somali-weyn, ayaa gef iyo meel-ka-dhaca ku tilmaamay in Cismaan Jaamac Cali (Kalluun) uu cafis u qaato Hargeysa, isla markaana ku eedeeyay dadka fikirkaa qaba inay yahiin qaar soo faqaya waxyaabo laga soo gudbay.

Md. Buubaa oo u waramayay Telefeeshinka HCBTV, ayaa ka waramay arimo badan oo Somaliland ku saabsan, kuwaasoo ay kamid yihiin safarkii Madaxwayne Siilaayo kutagay dalka Jabuuti, heshiiskii ka dhacay deegaanka Widh-Widh, fikirkiisa ku aadan in kooxaha Somaliya shirloogu qabato Gudaha Somaliland iyo in uu ku talo jiro safar uu ku tago Somaliland.

Ugu horayn Md. Ismaaciil, waxa uu ka waramay qadiyada ku saabsan madax-banaanida Somaliland iyo sida ay beesha caalamka uga heli karto, isagoo arintaa ka warmayana, waxa uu yidhi: " In lixdankii sidii lay sugu la ahaado iyo inla kala tago waa arin dadka Soomaliyeed u taala, Somaliland Ictiraaf keedu kuma xidhna cid dibadeed ee waa mid iyadu ay gacanteeda ku haysato, waa mid intay Soomaali isugu yeedho ku qancin karto in dantoodu sidaa ku jito, markaa maaha Ictiraaku in dabada laga raadiyo..."

Isagoo hadalkiisa sii wata, waxa uu Md. Buubaa yidhi: "..Runtii dalka Jabuuti waa dal walaalaheen ah oo jaarkeena ah oo maanta dhisan markaa wax yaabaha lagama maar-maanka ah in ay u faa'iidayso Somaliland iyo Soomaalida kaleba waa lagama maar-maan in laga radiyo. Sidaas darteed, anniga waxay ila ahayd Somaliland in ay iyadu ku haboonayd siyaasadeeda oo qeexan inay u bandhito Soomaali iyo Carab-ba inay ka soo baxdo, waxa Dunida la ysku qiimeeyaa waa diblomaasiyda markaa waxa looga baahan yahay Madaxwaynaha Somaliland iyo Wasiirka Arimaha Dibada inay la yimaadan siyaasad qeexan oo Carab u cuntami karta oo cid walba u cuntami karta..."

Sidoo kale, waxa uu Md. Ismaaciil Hurre Buubaa ka hadlay socdaalka uu Somaliland ku joogo siyaasiga ay isku fikirka yihiin ee Cismaan Kalluun, kaasoo uu sheegay in aan xaq loogu lahayn in la weydiiyo cafis uu ku yimaado Soamliland, isla markaana haddii ay jirto cid aragtidaa qabtaa, waxa uu xusay inay yihiin dad doonaya inay dib u soo faqaan dhacdooyin hore oo laga gudbay.

"...Aad iyo aad baan u soo dhoweynayaa (Safarka Cismaan Kaluun ku tegay Hargeysa), anniga laftigaygu waan ku socdaa, laakiin hadal dadka qaarkood ka dhawaajiyeen oo ah Cismaan Jaamac muxuu fasax u qaadan waayay, waxa ay ilatahay arin aan meesha qaban. Saaxiibkay Muuse Biixi waxaan leeyahay malaha wali dagaalkii maryo aloolka iyo Fedaraalka ayaan si fiican uga soo bixin, xaq buu u leeyahay inuu tago (Hargeysa Cismaan Kaluun), anniguna xaq baan u leeyahay in aan tago (Somaliland), waxa weeyaan siyaasiyan fikir waad yeelan kartaa, laakiin danta ummada markay noqoto ama taariikh ahaan ama halgan ahaan cid ummadayada nooga wanaagsanyd may jirin, HAA danta Somaliland inay ku jirto in ummadda Somaliyeed ka mid noqdaan oo waliba hoggaamiyaan oo jaanisbaa jira ummadda Soomaliyeed diyaar u wada tahay haddii la doonayo in Hargeysi noqoto Magaalo Madaxda Somaliya diyaar loo yahay, haddii Madaxwaynaha Soomaaliyeed yahay mid ka soo jeedan Somaliland diyaar loo yahay oo haddii shalay Somaliland la duudsiyey maanta laga soo wada noqday, anniga (Ismaaciil Buubaa) waxay il atahay jaanis aad iyo aad u weyn baa jira.." ayuu yidhi Md. Buubaa.

Waxa kaloo, Md. Buubaa uu carabka ku dhiftay caga-jugleynta iyo cabudhinta Xukuumada cusub ee Madaxweyne Siilaanyo ku hayso Saxaafadda madaxabannaan, taasoo uu ku tilmaamay iany tahya mid dumin karta Xukuumada haddii ay ku sii socoto, waxaanu yidhi: "...Walaahi annigu talada aan arintaa uga soo jeedin lahaa Xukuumada cusub waxa weeyaan Saxaafada ninkii cabudhiyaa isagaa is cabudhiyey, haddii la dhibaateeyo Saxaafaddana dawladaas dhibaatadeeda ayaa bilaabamaysa markaa waxaan odhan lahaa haddii ay jirto waa in si weyn wax looga qabtaa. Saxaafadda xorta ahna waxaan odhan lahaa waxa jirta masuuliyada Saxaafadda xorta ah looga baahan yahay oo ay wixii jira ummada u soo bandhigto, waayo wadanka horuumarkiisa qiyaaasta laga qaadanayaa waxay tahay Saxaafadda, fikradaha kala duwan ee wadanka gudihiisa jirta iyadoo si ummada dhisaysa loo wada jeedinayo ay noqoto in Saxaafadda xorta ahi soo bandhigto.."

Md. Ismaaciil Hurre Buubaa oo ka hadlayey hindisihiisa ku aadan inuu damacsan yahay inuu tago Somaliland, waxa uu sheegay inuu ku talo jiro inuu tago Hargeysa, isla markaana aanay jirin wax ka hortaagan oo u diiday inuu tago Somaliland, isagoo arrintaa ka hadlayna waxa uu yidhi: "..Su'aashaa dhawr jeer baa la iweydiiyey HAA waan tegayaa Somaliland, waxaanan tegi doonaa waqtiga hawlaha aan wadaa ii dhamaadaan, iyadoo ay sidaa tahay anniga waxay ila tahya inay meel ka dhaca inay tahay in Cismaan Jaamac la yidhaahdo cafis soo weydiiso, garan mayo cafiska iyo dadkani waxa ay ka hadlayaan, laakiin waxaad moodaa in dadka qaarkii arrimo la soo dhaafay inay ka guuxayaan, kuwaasi-na way dhammaadeen qof Somaliland u dhashay ee imanaya fikirkiisa siyaasadeed xor buu u yahay Somaliland-na cidi igama xigto, cid aan uga baahanay inaan fasax uga qaataa in aan Hargeysa tagana ma jirto.."

Ugu danbayntii Md. Buubaa waxa uu aad ugu boogaadiyey Xukuumada cusub gogosha nabadeed ee ay u fidisay dadka ku dhaqan deegaanada bariga, gaar ahaan heshiiskii ka dhacay Widh-widh oo uu ku tilmaamay mid waxtar weyn u leh Somaliland jiritaankeeda.



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Doubt it will happen. Somalilanders would never accept it.

HOWEVER, moving the Somali capital isn't a bad idea. Before the war, all attention was on Muqdisho and everywhere else was ignored. Probably move it to a more central location or maybe a new city (!!!)
Doubt it will happen. Somalilanders would never accept it.

HOWEVER, moving the Somali capital isn't a bad idea. Before the war, all attention was on Muqdisho and everywhere else was ignored. Probably move it to a more central location or maybe a new city (!!!)

I don't like Hargeisa to be the capital, but would like somewhere on the seaside, Berbera?

Xussisn sxb another Somalia is possible, Strong United Somalia
I don't like Hargeisa to be the capital, but would like somewhere on the seaside, Berbera?
o_O ... that is still in Somaliland
o_O ... that is still in Somaliland
Yes Laila The capital must be somewhere in Somaliland! The President will be from Somaliland too, Dimiqraadiyadda ayaanu qaybinaynaa :)
there will never be a strong united somalia without djibouti. so why not pick us as your capital? we're developed enough and can even defend you against any enemy
That could be a great idea if it helps the country come back together and work with each other, of course it depends on what Somalilanders think (like Xusein already said)

I guess it also depends on getting out of the present crisis and what not (cart before the horse)
^^The Horse is dead, we ate it. Now we are planning to engineer a strong engine on the cart for long lasting stability. There is no point in having civil strife every 25 years, a reality that has become common in Africa.
^^The Horse is dead, we ate it. Now we are planning to engineer a strong engine on the cart for long lasting stability. There is no point in having civil strife every 25 years, a reality that has become common in Africa.
God bless. I hope you guys can do it. The Somali people deserve peace. :cheers:
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