Healthcare System in Canada?

^^, I don't understand. These private hospitals and insurers would provide 1st rate health care with little to no wait times. If those that could afford to, move into the private system, then there would be less strain on the public system, then end result being everyone wins.

If there are laws that make sure all doctors work a percentage of their time in the public system, then the care would remain relatively similar.

But if the private system became so effective at taking the strain off the public system that wait times in the public system were diminished, and the care in the two systems were the same quality, then what incentive would there be for even wealthy people to spend the extra thousands to use the private system? They would all just stampede into the public system until it became overwhelmed again and wait times increased again. In other words, the only way the private system would be attractive to people (assuming the care was the same) is if there would always be significantly longer wait times in the public system.

Now that that's been established, we have to ask ourselves whether or not care that you have to wait significantly longer for is really as high in quality. Medical outcomes are often strongly influenced by how quickly treatment begins. And that doesn't even consider the amount of pain and suffering that people can experience when their care is delayed.

I can see the argument for TT care being at least somewhat persuasive if it actually made things more efficient. But in countries with mainly or partially private care, society ends up paying much more overall.

So it really boils down to the age old question of whether or not the availability (and therefore quality) of something as basic and essential as health care should be determined by how much money a person has in the same way that consumer goods and services would be.

(In case anyone hasn't guessed, my vote goes to public). :tongue3:

Yeah, but due to Canada's super booming RETIREMENT era coming soon PH will be unaffordable, so why can't PUBLIC healthcare be for those who DON'T want private healthcare but why should wealthy or middle-class citizens who can afford private healthcare be forced into the states or die waiting for treatment when they could pump that money INTO the Canadian system.

Win-Win-Win. Two-tier 4EVA!

Nouvellecosse said:

But if the private system became so effective at taking the strain off the public system that wait times in the public system were diminished, and the care in the two systems were the same quality, then what incentive would there be for even wealthy people to spend the extra thousands to use the private system?

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Very simple! Tax incentive. If you earn over say $75,000 / year, then either you take out private health insurance, or the government will deduct another 2% of your gross salary.

@Taller, Better:

Fine, but you can be responible for this...

I think the system works very well for now (notwithstanding what will happen when the massive Baby Boomer era reaches the age of perpetual convalescence).. I haven't had a problem...

Although, my only complaint would be that certain drugs should be available over the counter from a pharmacist. I am unfortunately susceptible to my annual bout with strep throat, and I know what I have - but I have to go wait in a walk in clinic for over an hour, with a high fever, just to get the damn prescription for the same antibiotics I need every time... In Spain, certain drugs, like that, would be available directly from the pharmacist. You would tell him/her your symptoms and they would give you something for it.

Filip said:

I have had a sore throat for 4 days now, definitely not the start of a cold as it should have started days ago, and definitely not strep as I'd have fever and I'd be in insane pain.

Something's off, yet I can't get this checked until Tuesday.. God I hate this system.

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Sore as in dry or sore as in headache type sore?

If it's dry then I recommend steaming your throat for a few minutes then drinking cold water and finishing off with fruit juice etc...

Likely allergies. 'Tis the time of year, with all the pollen about. Some autumns I get the chest one, others the sinus one, etc... etc..
Some years nothing. They can come on at any age. Mine began when I moved to here, as the plants and trees are different from what
I was raised with. Take a Reactin and see if it helps.

I advise you to take up smoking, and beat your intolerance to smoke!!
That'll be five dollah plees. "Smiles are Free", but advice is not.


Honestly, the chances of me being around in 2080 are slim to negatory, but maybe the minimum wage will be $10,000 an hour and we won't have to worry about the cost.

CanadianDemon said:

@Taller, Better:

Fine, but you can be responible for this...

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Wonder which crazy person just voted that they are so fabulously wealthy that they don't care about medical bills?!?!? :dunno:

hehe.....