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those guys who beated up the reporter is really really dumb... so very dumb... Do they actually think that nothing would happen to them? Beating up someone from HK? do they actually think the HK press would let this go?
amazing.
amazing.
It is irrelevant whether these people that got beaten are HKers or reporters,
The Fact that in a civil society, hospital staff acted like triads is the surprising news here.
Naturally, articles that concern HK's society & way of life will be posted in this part of the forum to increase social awareness & therefore induce improvements. News reporting is a form of self-evaluating/reflection for a society, and HK-ers value this form of freedom immensely. Reporting the truth of an event in the news is the utmost importance in news journalism. Accuracy, speed & delivery is what makes HK news-reporting an asset.
Journalists/reporters are different to Paparazzi, Paparazzi follows the gossip of actors, which is not the case here. The Reporters here were surrounded by hospital staff & then was beaten up when they were trying to enter the hospital grounds. If the hospital didn't want the reporters there, they could call the police or security, issue a trepass notice ...
In the news video, you can see that hospital staff & nurse tookout metal pipes from inside the hospital, and then hide it away when the police came. I think it is hard to deny that it is a terrible act. This is extremely disappointing, especially when the reporter's association rang the hospital director up, he did not apologise about the incidence nor give any explanations. This just reflects the weak public relation skills & poor judgement of the hospital, they don't seem to have the desire to improve the situation, and is giving SZ a bad image.
Justice will be served, only when the suspects become convicted in a court of law, the fact that arrests were made is good, but only time will tell whether the whole process has been treated fairly & with justice when the culprits have been jailed/sentenced.
In any society, beatening up people in general can be charged with the " motive/intent to cause grieveous bodily harm" or "assault". Let's hope we see this form of law & order being carried out
The Fact that in a civil society, hospital staff acted like triads is the surprising news here.
Naturally, articles that concern HK's society & way of life will be posted in this part of the forum to increase social awareness & therefore induce improvements. News reporting is a form of self-evaluating/reflection for a society, and HK-ers value this form of freedom immensely. Reporting the truth of an event in the news is the utmost importance in news journalism. Accuracy, speed & delivery is what makes HK news-reporting an asset.
Journalists/reporters are different to Paparazzi, Paparazzi follows the gossip of actors, which is not the case here. The Reporters here were surrounded by hospital staff & then was beaten up when they were trying to enter the hospital grounds. If the hospital didn't want the reporters there, they could call the police or security, issue a trepass notice ...
In the news video, you can see that hospital staff & nurse tookout metal pipes from inside the hospital, and then hide it away when the police came. I think it is hard to deny that it is a terrible act. This is extremely disappointing, especially when the reporter's association rang the hospital director up, he did not apologise about the incidence nor give any explanations. This just reflects the weak public relation skills & poor judgement of the hospital, they don't seem to have the desire to improve the situation, and is giving SZ a bad image.
Justice will be served, only when the suspects become convicted in a court of law, the fact that arrests were made is good, but only time will tell whether the whole process has been treated fairly & with justice when the culprits have been jailed/sentenced.
In any society, beatening up people in general can be charged with the " motive/intent to cause grieveous bodily harm" or "assault". Let's hope we see this form of law & order being carried out
eh... i honestly think if they were beating up someone NOT from HK nobody would care... i'm sure it happens everyday... Chinese hospitals are notorious for their lack of morals... I'm not surprised that they do these kinda things
what DID surprise me was their complete lack of intelligence... beating up a HK reporter publicly as if no one would know or care... they deserve the worst possible reprimand. Not really for the beating, but for their stupidity :-D
what DID surprise me was their complete lack of intelligence... beating up a HK reporter publicly as if no one would know or care... they deserve the worst possible reprimand. Not really for the beating, but for their stupidity :-D
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有線記者﹕打人又打劫 2006年5月24日
【明報專訊】「簡直係又打人、又打劫﹗」在採訪時被毆的有線電視記者李家聰，昨晚接受訪問時，坦言對事件感到十分憤怒。李家聰回想前晚到醫院門外採訪時，只希望拍下醫院門外一張通告，卻被醫院的人士毆打及搶奪手機。「他們其中3個人，一個箍頸，兩個箍左右手，接另一個男人說『你閉嘴沒有』，便3拳打向我心口﹗」
「醫護」按穴位攻擊
李家聰表示，那一批打人的「醫護人員」，在推撞期間更用手指按他的穴位，以作攻擊。他表示，那名「醫院副院長」更一度將從他手上搶得手機，放進其口袋，公安到場時才願意把手機交回。
公安到場才交出記者手機
另一名在昨午被襲的亞視駐廣州記者陳興昌說，過往在內地採訪偶爾也會遇到阻止採訪的情或口頭衝突，但多只是「推撞一兩下」，卻甚少遇到大打出手。
陳表示，毆打事件歷時約10多分鐘，當時不知道有人從旁持鐵枝，回想起來有點驚。
事件中差點被奪相機的《南華早報》記者周松欣表示，在廣東，這類打記者的情時有所聞。
隆胸醫院外毆港記4人被捕
拳打腳踢阻採訪奪器材 2006年5月24日
廣 告
【明報專訊】本港兩間電視台記者在前日及昨日到深圳富華醫院採訪首宗涉及PAAG索償案時，均被逾10名的醫院醫護及工作人員重重包圍，阻止採訪，並多番拳打腳踢毆打及搶奪攝影器材，更有人持逾一米長的鐵枝企圖毆打記者，造成4名香港記者受傷。
深圳警方昨晚7時許採取行動，帶走包括醫院保安部及院長級等職員在內的7人，到派出所接受調查，其中4人被正式拘留，深圳公安並成立專案小組，進行調查。
深公安設專案小組調查
深圳公安接報到場後只將事件列作「糾紛」處理，深圳及本港多個新聞工作者組織均發表聲明，譴責內地暴力對待記者，要求廣東省及深圳市政府徹查真相。深圳市政府新聞辦昨晚表示，深圳市長許宗衡對事件非常重視，會督促多個部門徹查及作出交代。本港保安局表示，暫無接獲求助。
被毆的有線電視記者李家聰表示，前晚及昨午到富華醫院採訪時均遭毆打，前晚在醫院門外採訪時，被3人箍頸及拳打胸口。被毆的亞視記者陳興昌昨日被人拳打腳踢，晚上返港到北區醫院檢查，並到上水警署落案。
派出所﹕此案非打人事件
本港傳媒昨日致電富華醫院院長曹孟君查詢，曹未有回答毆打記者一事便切線。接辦此案的深圳市黃貝派出所負責人回應此案非打人事件，只強調會依法處理，「怎樣處理也不會告訴你」。
深圳市中級人民法院昨午審理首宗PAAG索償案，有線電視及亞洲電視的記者及攝影師，3男1女合共4人，前晚6時許到被索償的富華醫院採訪，在醫院門外欲拍攝一張通告時，突有逾10名從醫院走出，聲稱為醫院人員，搶奪攝影機及手提電話。
有線亞視4記者受傷
記者被毆打後報警，各人被公安帶到黃貝派出所落案，其中搶奪記者手機及毆打記者的兩名人士，分別向公安表示為負責管理的副院長及醫院醫生。在公安調解下，記者獲發還器材。
昨日中午，有線及亞視兩名男記者再到醫院門外，察看醫院通告時再被毆打，有身穿護士裝束的男女醫護人員走出醫院阻止採訪，拳打腳踢記者及搶奪手機，歷時約5分鐘，有醫院人員更手持3條逾1米長的鐵枝，企圖加入毆打記者行列。
昨日下午，於前晚涉毆打記者的「醫院醫生」突然現身法院，被大批記者追問下只說自己為「病人」，被有線記者李家聰當面質問前晚是被他毆打時，該「醫生」慌忙逃離現場。
另外，《南華早報》一名男記者於昨午4時許，到醫院門外欲拍照時，亦突遭醫院人員推撞及企圖搶奪相機。
有線電視新聞總監馮德雄對記者正常採訪遇粗暴對待，表示不可接受，要求內地公安作徹查。亞視高級副總裁(新聞)關偉表示，記者屬合法採訪卻遭毆打，已向廣東省新聞辦、深圳市及本港中聯辦反映事件。《南華早報》對事件表示遺憾。
港深記協齊發聲明譴責
香港新聞行政人員協會、香港新聞工作者聯會、香港記者協會及深圳記者協會，昨日發表聲明，對毆打記者事件，作出譴責，並促請深圳市政府，秉公調查。
拳打腳踢阻採訪奪器材 2006年5月24日
廣 告
【明報專訊】本港兩間電視台記者在前日及昨日到深圳富華醫院採訪首宗涉及PAAG索償案時，均被逾10名的醫院醫護及工作人員重重包圍，阻止採訪，並多番拳打腳踢毆打及搶奪攝影器材，更有人持逾一米長的鐵枝企圖毆打記者，造成4名香港記者受傷。
深圳警方昨晚7時許採取行動，帶走包括醫院保安部及院長級等職員在內的7人，到派出所接受調查，其中4人被正式拘留，深圳公安並成立專案小組，進行調查。
深公安設專案小組調查
深圳公安接報到場後只將事件列作「糾紛」處理，深圳及本港多個新聞工作者組織均發表聲明，譴責內地暴力對待記者，要求廣東省及深圳市政府徹查真相。深圳市政府新聞辦昨晚表示，深圳市長許宗衡對事件非常重視，會督促多個部門徹查及作出交代。本港保安局表示，暫無接獲求助。
被毆的有線電視記者李家聰表示，前晚及昨午到富華醫院採訪時均遭毆打，前晚在醫院門外採訪時，被3人箍頸及拳打胸口。被毆的亞視記者陳興昌昨日被人拳打腳踢，晚上返港到北區醫院檢查，並到上水警署落案。
派出所﹕此案非打人事件
本港傳媒昨日致電富華醫院院長曹孟君查詢，曹未有回答毆打記者一事便切線。接辦此案的深圳市黃貝派出所負責人回應此案非打人事件，只強調會依法處理，「怎樣處理也不會告訴你」。
深圳市中級人民法院昨午審理首宗PAAG索償案，有線電視及亞洲電視的記者及攝影師，3男1女合共4人，前晚6時許到被索償的富華醫院採訪，在醫院門外欲拍攝一張通告時，突有逾10名從醫院走出，聲稱為醫院人員，搶奪攝影機及手提電話。
有線亞視4記者受傷
記者被毆打後報警，各人被公安帶到黃貝派出所落案，其中搶奪記者手機及毆打記者的兩名人士，分別向公安表示為負責管理的副院長及醫院醫生。在公安調解下，記者獲發還器材。
昨日中午，有線及亞視兩名男記者再到醫院門外，察看醫院通告時再被毆打，有身穿護士裝束的男女醫護人員走出醫院阻止採訪，拳打腳踢記者及搶奪手機，歷時約5分鐘，有醫院人員更手持3條逾1米長的鐵枝，企圖加入毆打記者行列。
昨日下午，於前晚涉毆打記者的「醫院醫生」突然現身法院，被大批記者追問下只說自己為「病人」，被有線記者李家聰當面質問前晚是被他毆打時，該「醫生」慌忙逃離現場。
另外，《南華早報》一名男記者於昨午4時許，到醫院門外欲拍照時，亦突遭醫院人員推撞及企圖搶奪相機。
有線電視新聞總監馮德雄對記者正常採訪遇粗暴對待，表示不可接受，要求內地公安作徹查。亞視高級副總裁(新聞)關偉表示，記者屬合法採訪卻遭毆打，已向廣東省新聞辦、深圳市及本港中聯辦反映事件。《南華早報》對事件表示遺憾。
港深記協齊發聲明譴責
香港新聞行政人員協會、香港新聞工作者聯會、香港記者協會及深圳記者協會，昨日發表聲明，對毆打記者事件，作出譴責，並促請深圳市政府，秉公調查。
I generally agree with you but I tend to think if they were beating up somoeone from HK without a video as an evidence, nobody would care too.
spicytimothy said:
殴打香港记者深圳美容医院查封（组图）
2006年05月24日 15:13
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中评社香港5月24日电／发生殴打香港记者事件的深圳富华美容医院被深圳当局查封，今日早上已经拉闸，门外已贴出内部整顿，暂停营业的通告。 深圳当局表示，鉴于富华美容医院管理混乱，市卫生局决定对这间医院采取封存、保留现场实物和资料的措施。
综合香港媒体报道，深圳市卫生局今早张贴的封条上，指医院将会封至本月30日。医院对面原本挂出多幅宣传的广告横额，早上已经被拆除。医院电话全天没有接听，里面接待处无人当值，但不时仍有怀疑病人探头外望在门外守候的媒体。
深圳市政府发言人较早前表示，市长许宗衡非常重视今次事件，会督促多个部门彻查及作出交待，坚决维护记者采访的正当权利。在事后深圳公安部门，已经带走涉嫌打人的深圳富华美容医院6名人员调查，其中5人被刑事拘留。
市公安局新闻发言人强调，深圳警方坚决保证深圳良好的社会秩序和法制环境，保护新闻记者合法进行新闻采访和报道的权力，任何人违犯法律都将受到法律惩处。
发言人又称，鉴于富华美容医院管理混乱，市卫生局决定对这间医院采取封存、保留现场实物和资料的措施。
2006年05月24日 15:13
中评社香港5月24日电／发生殴打香港记者事件的深圳富华美容医院被深圳当局查封，今日早上已经拉闸，门外已贴出内部整顿，暂停营业的通告。 深圳当局表示，鉴于富华美容医院管理混乱，市卫生局决定对这间医院采取封存、保留现场实物和资料的措施。
综合香港媒体报道，深圳市卫生局今早张贴的封条上，指医院将会封至本月30日。医院对面原本挂出多幅宣传的广告横额，早上已经被拆除。医院电话全天没有接听，里面接待处无人当值，但不时仍有怀疑病人探头外望在门外守候的媒体。
深圳市政府发言人较早前表示，市长许宗衡非常重视今次事件，会督促多个部门彻查及作出交待，坚决维护记者采访的正当权利。在事后深圳公安部门，已经带走涉嫌打人的深圳富华美容医院6名人员调查，其中5人被刑事拘留。
市公安局新闻发言人强调，深圳警方坚决保证深圳良好的社会秩序和法制环境，保护新闻记者合法进行新闻采访和报道的权力，任何人违犯法律都将受到法律惩处。
发言人又称，鉴于富华美容医院管理混乱，市卫生局决定对这间医院采取封存、保留现场实物和资料的措施。
LOL,Chinese people beating each others since 1946.Cannibalism was also an act performed by the Red Guards during the cultural revolution. yum yum yum.... :down:
well i wouldnt be suprised..u never kno whatz goin on with the mainland
my fd's dad got beaten up in a bar by the police n shenzhen, and when they took him back to the police station, they took all his belongings (money, phone etc) n told him he could go back 2 hong kong, and he tried to complain in Hong Kong but nothing could be done.
It's intolerable
Frankly I find this bashing of reporters very unacceptable. Why is there a hospital there in the first place? Why did the hospital staffs bash up the reporters? Doesnt that defy the main objective of the hospital? Secondly, China_Wilson, you should very much be thankful of the reporters. Why? because they are risking their lives to give u the reports, revealing the dark secrets of the hospitals so that people like you and me can know what is going on. Now tell me, would you go to that hospital again if given a choice after reading the news? If you didnt read the news you might as well fall victim to the hospital misconduct.
Frankly I find this bashing of reporters very unacceptable. Why is there a hospital there in the first place? Why did the hospital staffs bash up the reporters? Doesnt that defy the main objective of the hospital? Secondly, China_Wilson, you should very much be thankful of the reporters. Why? because they are risking their lives to give u the reports, revealing the dark secrets of the hospitals so that people like you and me can know what is going on. Now tell me, would you go to that hospital again if given a choice after reading the news? If you didnt read the news you might as well fall victim to the hospital misconduct.
There is a big dark and dangerous side of the mainland. The police is corrupt as hell and I hope I won't find myself in a Mainland Hospital after these shocking stories.
Nothing surprising here. SZ is fxxked up a long time ago. :hammer:
I hope the Guangdong govt investigates and punishes those responsible for this scandal.
edited. plz del.
congraduations, shenzhen. you have showed hkers and the world the very true side of your nature society. no one in the world will show their pity because it's all expected within their perspective. you don't need to pretend to feel gulity because you never did it. as a result, it's the forever obstacle for you to become another hk. you use your hands to break your dream.
[2006-05-25] 深圳迅速處理毆打記者事件值得肯定
■劉銳紹 資深評論員
香港記者在深圳採訪全國首宗PAAG民事索償案，結果有數名記者被圍毆。這一事件不僅引起香港新聞界及各界人士的關注，內地新聞界和有關方面也十分重視，因為這涉及能否依法治國的問題。至目前為止，已有五人被刑事拘留，有關醫院亦被勒令暫停營業，反映當局已迅速處理此事，努力避免造成更大的惡性影響。深圳市政府更表示，他們會努力維護正常的採訪行動，這是值得肯定的。
其實，由於內地的新聞事業不斷發展，新聞工作者深入採訪而引起的危險已愈來愈明顯，毆打、禁錮、恐嚇、賄賂記者等事件時有發生。這類事件不單發生在一般媒體的記者身上，連中央級的傳媒[例如中央電視台《焦點訪談》的記者]也曾經遇到類似事件。可見，暴力事件不僅危及境外記者，也對中國新聞記者構成嚴重威脅，有關方面應該審慎處理。
此外，中國目前正不斷強調依法治國。經過多年的努力，法治精神已逐步建立起來，例如民告官的成功率已大幅上升，給人一種法律為人民服務和真正以民為本的感覺。就在這種勢頭不斷形成之際，絕不能讓違法亂紀的暴力事件破壞國家的形象，也不能讓違法之徒踐踏國家法律。因此，有關方面應該根據事實，嚴肅處理。
其實，內地官方已愈來愈認識到傳媒與政府相輔相成的關係。傳媒不單傳播信息，還可以協助政府推行政策，幫助政府發揮監督違法行為的功能，有效地協調社會各階層的利益。內地大部分傳媒都是按這些功能而發揮作用的，所以內地傳媒近年來的報道面愈來愈闊，而當局在既定政策之下也予以支持，以達致比翼齊飛、相得益彰的正面效果。
由記者遇襲的事件令人想到《新聞法》的問題。內地討論《新聞法》已有一段時候，最近也有專家、學者繼續研究這個問題。由於涉及的範圍頗廣，故暫時仍在研究階段。但據了解，其中一個《新聞法》的重點就是如何保護新聞記者的人身安全，因為無論採訪的內容如何，任何一方也不能採取暴力行為。我想，即使暫時未能制定全面的《新聞法》，當局也可以按禁止非法使用暴力的情況加強執法，或出台一些保護採訪自由的相關指引，以顯示當局依法治國的決心。
當然，香港記者在內地採訪，也要遵守內地的有關規定，不能有任何採訪特權的意識。長期以來，香港傳媒在這方面的表現還是不錯的。日後，香港新聞界還可以與內地有關方面多作交流，就兩地的新聞操作模式和特點多作溝通，避免發生不必要的磨擦。總之，兩地一條心，必可以興利除弊。[文匯論壇]
■劉銳紹 資深評論員
香港記者在深圳採訪全國首宗PAAG民事索償案，結果有數名記者被圍毆。這一事件不僅引起香港新聞界及各界人士的關注，內地新聞界和有關方面也十分重視，因為這涉及能否依法治國的問題。至目前為止，已有五人被刑事拘留，有關醫院亦被勒令暫停營業，反映當局已迅速處理此事，努力避免造成更大的惡性影響。深圳市政府更表示，他們會努力維護正常的採訪行動，這是值得肯定的。
其實，由於內地的新聞事業不斷發展，新聞工作者深入採訪而引起的危險已愈來愈明顯，毆打、禁錮、恐嚇、賄賂記者等事件時有發生。這類事件不單發生在一般媒體的記者身上，連中央級的傳媒[例如中央電視台《焦點訪談》的記者]也曾經遇到類似事件。可見，暴力事件不僅危及境外記者，也對中國新聞記者構成嚴重威脅，有關方面應該審慎處理。
此外，中國目前正不斷強調依法治國。經過多年的努力，法治精神已逐步建立起來，例如民告官的成功率已大幅上升，給人一種法律為人民服務和真正以民為本的感覺。就在這種勢頭不斷形成之際，絕不能讓違法亂紀的暴力事件破壞國家的形象，也不能讓違法之徒踐踏國家法律。因此，有關方面應該根據事實，嚴肅處理。
其實，內地官方已愈來愈認識到傳媒與政府相輔相成的關係。傳媒不單傳播信息，還可以協助政府推行政策，幫助政府發揮監督違法行為的功能，有效地協調社會各階層的利益。內地大部分傳媒都是按這些功能而發揮作用的，所以內地傳媒近年來的報道面愈來愈闊，而當局在既定政策之下也予以支持，以達致比翼齊飛、相得益彰的正面效果。
由記者遇襲的事件令人想到《新聞法》的問題。內地討論《新聞法》已有一段時候，最近也有專家、學者繼續研究這個問題。由於涉及的範圍頗廣，故暫時仍在研究階段。但據了解，其中一個《新聞法》的重點就是如何保護新聞記者的人身安全，因為無論採訪的內容如何，任何一方也不能採取暴力行為。我想，即使暫時未能制定全面的《新聞法》，當局也可以按禁止非法使用暴力的情況加強執法，或出台一些保護採訪自由的相關指引，以顯示當局依法治國的決心。
當然，香港記者在內地採訪，也要遵守內地的有關規定，不能有任何採訪特權的意識。長期以來，香港傳媒在這方面的表現還是不錯的。日後，香港新聞界還可以與內地有關方面多作交流，就兩地的新聞操作模式和特點多作溝通，避免發生不必要的磨擦。總之，兩地一條心，必可以興利除弊。[文匯論壇]
Five detained over attacks on reporters
(Shanghai Daily)
Updated: 2006-05-25 09:10
Police in Shenzhen, south China's Guangdong Province, have detained five employees of a cosmetic-surgery hospital for attacking Hong Kong journalists investigating medical disputes over a breast enlargement gel.
On Monday evening police were called to the hospital after receiving a report a journalist had been beaten and robbed at the Shenzhen Fuhua Plastic and Aesthetic Hospital, according to a Xinhua news agency report yesterday.
Employees had refused a request by the reporter, from a Hong Kong television station, to interview employees and film the hospital, which is the subject of several lawsuits over its use of a controversial liquid in breast-augmentation surgery.
On Tuesday, police were again called to the hospital after further reports journalists were being attacked by employees.
A task force set up to investigate the incidents alleged that Cao Mengchao, 56, a vice president of the hospital, and another four hospital employees were behind the attacks.
The police detained the five men and Shenzhen health authorities have sealed the scene to preserve evidence.
The incident also came to the attention of the city government.
Shenzhen Mayor Xu Zongheng asked the authorities to guarantee reporters' right to conduct interviews.
The government press office promised to keep the public informed about the progress of investigation.
Fuhua hospital is currently involved in a raft of lawsuits.
Fuhua hospital used a breast-enlarging liquid known as PAAG in breast augmentation surgery. But the liquid was found to cause complications.
After receiving many complaints, the State Food and Drug Administration held a public hearing and ordered to ban the use of the liquid at the end of last month.
(Shanghai Daily)
Updated: 2006-05-25 09:10
Police in Shenzhen, south China's Guangdong Province, have detained five employees of a cosmetic-surgery hospital for attacking Hong Kong journalists investigating medical disputes over a breast enlargement gel.
On Monday evening police were called to the hospital after receiving a report a journalist had been beaten and robbed at the Shenzhen Fuhua Plastic and Aesthetic Hospital, according to a Xinhua news agency report yesterday.
Employees had refused a request by the reporter, from a Hong Kong television station, to interview employees and film the hospital, which is the subject of several lawsuits over its use of a controversial liquid in breast-augmentation surgery.
On Tuesday, police were again called to the hospital after further reports journalists were being attacked by employees.
A task force set up to investigate the incidents alleged that Cao Mengchao, 56, a vice president of the hospital, and another four hospital employees were behind the attacks.
The police detained the five men and Shenzhen health authorities have sealed the scene to preserve evidence.
The incident also came to the attention of the city government.
Shenzhen Mayor Xu Zongheng asked the authorities to guarantee reporters' right to conduct interviews.
The government press office promised to keep the public informed about the progress of investigation.
Fuhua hospital is currently involved in a raft of lawsuits.
Fuhua hospital used a breast-enlarging liquid known as PAAG in breast augmentation surgery. But the liquid was found to cause complications.
After receiving many complaints, the State Food and Drug Administration held a public hearing and ordered to ban the use of the liquid at the end of last month.
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