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Hi all,

As part of some personal research interests i am looking for non-professional designers to provide their designs and opinions on a hypothetical regeneration of a small area in Newcastle.

The area in question is the block south of Newcastle city library, the block that contains the old odeon cinema and Carliol house. This has been selected due to potential, its proximity to high pedestrian flows and because i wish to base this enquiry on some previous research.

I am looking for designs of a new urban space (i.e. city square) to be proposed for this area.

If you wish to take part, i have attached a site map that contains some proposals. The site map in question shows that all the buildings apart from Carliol house have been cleared. However, if you feel that some building should be retained, simply draw them back in place. You will also notice that Pilgrim Street, New Bridge Street West and the connected Blackett Street have become pedestrian routes and that current bus stops located on these roads have been relocated on Market Street and a proposed new bus hub between the City Library and the Laing Art Gallery. I wish to retain this idea as to me, this makes sense in terms of regenerating this area.

So, if you wish to produce a design, please download the attached site map and simply sketch on a plan view of your proposal. It is up to you how detailed this can be. If you wish, you can highlight where trees may be placed, street furniture, changes in level, lighting, etc. Or you can simple just sketch the outline of your proposed buildings and squares. Then once you are done, simple upload your design to this thread and give a brief description on you design and how you see it improving this area of Newcastle.

Of course, if you wish to upload additional sketch's, maybe a 3D view, or anything you think is related, please do so.

I hope you find this request interesting and i look forward to your designs and comments.

if you have any questions, please just ask.

Regards

UD.

 

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In that block I would retain the corner building that faces Northumberland street and New bridge street and obviously the listed building facing market street. Everything else I would be more than willing to take down, unfortunately this includes what is left of the old odeon cinema. Where the old cinema and the office building which sticks out over the road (though at this point they wouldn't be there) I would have a entrance building to a bus station, the buses would enter via John Dobson street.

I would say the rest of the buildings would be made up of well designed offices with ground level retail units and possibly a 5* hotel with it own parking but that would be difficult with it's proximity to such a late bus station. Maybe though you could include a well designed public car park (which the city lacks of) and of course one would have been taken down already with my proposals.
 

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Here's my little effort (courtesy of MS Paint):



I've gone for a civic and retail led development that aims to solve some of Newcastle's inherent problems with lack of public space.

In the top right of the image you will see the new library square. This is a stylish contemporary public space with high quality materials and a fountain that the kids can play in (similar to those in the peace gardens in Sheffield or Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester).

To the top left you will see Pilgrim Square, this acts as a focal point into the development, as well as a place to host specialist markets.

In the centre is the Stephenson Gardens. A high quality green space surrounded by pavement cafes and buildings built in a graceful curved colonnade design (perhaps similar to Copenhagen Police HQ or Vancouver Library below):





The Gardens will become a new centre for Newcastle and a place to gather and watch life go by.

Pedestrianised streets lead to all four corners of the development linking it into the city in an integrated way (similar to Liverpool One) and stopping it feeling like a privatised space. These could either be left open to the elements as in Liverpool or a high quality airy roof similar to Trinity Square in Leeds or Cabot Circus in Bristol. All shop fronts will be high quality double height glass opening onto these pedestrianised streets.

Blocks A & D will also have shop fronts opening onto New Bridge St & Pilgrim St, while block B will be a department store to draw people into the development. Parking and loading will be via the underneath of the development with the possibility of increased parking in block C, with the proviso that the colonnade design is continued on the gardens and shops onto the pedestrianised streets.

The development will remain open at nights with bars and cafes opening onto the square providing life at all hours. The possibility a hotel or residential element could also be considered
 

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Hey Urbandoctor, by any chance you doing your third year planning - urban design module at Newcastle. If so, I remember doing that project and thought it was really interesting.
 

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In that block I would retain the corner building that faces Northumberland street and New bridge street and obviously the listed building facing market street. Everything else I would be more than willing to take down, unfortunately this includes what is left of the old odeon cinema. Where the old cinema and the office building which sticks out over the road (though at this point they wouldn't be there) I would have a entrance building to a bus station, the buses would enter via John Dobson street.

I would say the rest of the buildings would be made up of well designed offices with ground level retail units and possibly a 5* hotel with it own parking but that would be difficult with it's proximity to such a late bus station. Maybe though you could include a well designed public car park (which the city lacks of) and of course one would have been taken down already with my proposals.
Thank you for your suggestion, some interesting points there.

I like your thought on have an actual building for the the bus stop.

Your idea of a hotel is good as well. Certainly the council have identified this area for a new 5* hotel. Although it is suggested this would be housed within Carliol house.

However, the design request asks for the proposal of a new public space. Could you suggest where this would go and what shape design it would take.

Thank you again for your suggestions.
 

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Here's my little effort (courtesy of MS Paint):



I've gone for a civic and retail led development that aims to solve some of Newcastle's inherent problems with lack of public space.

In the top right of the image you will see the new library square. This is a stylish contemporary public space with high quality materials and a fountain that the kids can play in (similar to those in the peace gardens in Sheffield or Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester).

To the top left you will see Pilgrim Square, this acts as a focal point into the development, as well as a place to host specialist markets.

In the centre is the Stephenson Gardens. A high quality green space surrounded by pavement cafes and buildings built in a graceful curved colonnade design (perhaps similar to Copenhagen Police HQ or Vancouver Library below):





The Gardens will become a new centre for Newcastle and a place to gather and watch life go by.

Pedestrianised streets lead to all four corners of the development linking it into the city in an integrated way (similar to Liverpool One) and stopping it feeling like a privatised space. These could either be left open to the elements as in Liverpool or a high quality airy roof similar to Trinity Square in Leeds or Cabot Circus in Bristol. All shop fronts will be high quality double height glass opening onto these pedestrianised streets.

Blocks A & D will also have shop fronts opening onto New Bridge St & Pilgrim St, while block B will be a department store to draw people into the development. Parking and loading will be via the underneath of the development with the possibility of increased parking in block C, with the proviso that the colonnade design is continued on the gardens and shops onto the pedestrianised streets.

The development will remain open at nights with bars and cafes opening onto the square providing life at all hours. The possibility a hotel or residential element could also be considered
Very good!

I agree, as will most people in Newcastle, that there is clearly a lack of good public space compared to similar cities within the UK. certainly there is little connection between what public space we use. this is something you've proposed.

You proposal for a library square is a good one. You would feel that such an important building should front on to some form of public space. I am aware of princess square, but this is really to its side.

Your addition of a central space is also a good idea. Maybe a touch on the large side, i would be tempted to shrink it a little, but the inclusions of green space is good.

Along with your designs, i think your theories for the proposals are sound.

If anyone wishes to crit this design, please do so. Any discussions around these proposals are beneficial.
 

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Hey Urbandoctor, by any chance you doing your third year planning - urban design module at Newcastle. If so, I remember doing that project and thought it was really interesting.
Sadly i'm a little old to be a university. I wasnt aware that Newcastle had such a project. Was it using the same block? If you could provide any additional information on the newcastle uni project i would be very grateful.
 
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