make it so...
cont'd from #3
I agree with you 100%. Allowing that right of way to be vacated would be a huge mistake!IndyBob said:Lilly was "concerned" about hazardous material being transported through downtown. While downtown has a large daytime population, re-routing freight traffic to the belt-way would affect both a large daytime and nighttime population. The real reason Lilly wants the raised train beds removed is that they want to connect their main campus with their Meridian Street buildings.
Here's the problem with removing the train right-of-way: once the right of way is gone and built over, how will the city ever get grade-separated light rail into the downtown? The city doesn't have enough money to place the train tracks below grade, ala the big dig. I'm not sure that running light rail at grade makes sense in downtown, especially on South Street.
My opinion is that this would be the biggest development blunder in Indianapolis history. Notice I didn't say planning blunder, because the fact is this decision won't be made by planners.
The State has already made it clear that if high speed rail were to become a reality, Union Station WILL be the transit hub. Some right of way will need to be preserved. My guess is it will be above grade.
Lilly's lack of adequate long-range site planning at it's main campus is quite apparent. It's lack of any vision when it comes to light rail is scary. Here's an idea - place a light rail station along the existing train line at McCarty St.
The raised train bed has always been a psychological deterrent in connecting the south part of downtown with the core. Perhaps an open-lattice, above grade, steel "el-like" structure might be a solution. Although I would rather see a "subway".
Interesting indeed! You guys are almost as prolific as us Milwaukeeans as of late.CorrND said:An interesting aside:
Indianapolis Development News was active from 7/15/04 to 9/30/05, ~14.5 months.
Indianapolis Development News 2 was active from 9/30/05 to 1/27/06, ~4 months.
Indianapolis Development News 3 was active from 1/27/06 to 4/19/06, ~2.5 months.
At this rate, we're going to rip through Indianapolis Development News 4 in less than 2 months.
The alternative alignments from the Northeast have been narrowed down to two - one along downtown city streets, the other along existing above-grade tracks. I'm not sure about the timeframe for a final announcement.NaptownBoy said:Are there any new developments with rail and whatnot? Also I would like you guys to continue posting pics, I would really appreciate that.
The beltway is and has been in use for the last 100+ years. Beltway is in yellow, Amtrak in Purple:GT said:the belt-way/beltline: so it currently exists but is unused? what is around the right of way? could it be transformed into trails/medium-dense housing, etc? can someone post an aerial.
union station: how much of the space is vacant? i thought a lot of the space was converted into office space?
thehoss, surely you asked why union station was not considered while you were there? if so, what was the answer?