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Well, some Pinoys like to throw Americanisms as if everyone follows the American way. The words, Liberalism and Conservatism, have different connotations beyond the US. That is why I avoid using those terms on this forum. F.y.i., Canada and other Western European democracies the conservatives, the democrats in the US are actually to the right and far right of our own versions.

Secondly, impeachment or recall or vote of no confidence is a process which many democratic countries follow to the letter. Unlike in the PH, impeachment is as mickey mouse exercise full of innuendoes, allegations, tsismis, including little old lady with an envelope, other countries like to take hard evidence - not just statements from questionable characters. They have proper forum for that which in western democratic countries is in the house or parliament. They have that constitutional power, even in monarchies.

Since the PH follows the US set up, may be we should just watch how they proceed, and the evidence they come up with. We have to follow events in other countries in their own political and historical context. We can discuss their issues since this is an int'l relations without going into generalizations or spins. It is the sin of the Pinoys in the PH. Got me? :lol:
And yet they based their initial investigation on a false dossier made up by the FBI under Obama. Yes, ofcourse. A gleaming example of American Democracy and Rule of Law.:lol:
 

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US immigration office stops Manila operations
MANILA, Philippines — The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services stopped accepting applications and petitions as it will be closing its operations in Manila.The office will be permanently closing its field office in Manila on July 5.
"The US Embassy in Manila will assume responsibility for certain limited services previously provided by USCIS to individuals residing in the Philippines," the USCIS announced on its website.
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/06/06/1924121/us-immigration-office-stops-manila-operations#bkwPk7t3wvGsY8Uu.99
 

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PUBLIC SERVICE : LAW OFFICES OF VALERA & ASSOCIATES PC : To all our clients and friends calling our Law Offices , sending emails , texts , FB IM. There is nothing to be alarmed by this announcement . The US Embassy in the Philippines is open and fully operational . All immigrant and non immigrant applications and interviews are in normal operations . The closure of US CIS Field Office in Manila has no effect at all with present and future processing of non immigrant and immigrant visa applications at the US Embassy . All interviews will proceed as scheduled . The US Embassy in the Philippines is equipped with full time personnel that can handle even basic USCIS operations if needed. Again the US EMBASSY in the Philippines is OPEN and in full operations!!
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And yet they based their initial investigation on a false dossier made up by the FBI under Obama. Yes, ofcourse. A gleaming example of American Democracy and Rule of Law.:lol:
Mmm...you mean the Steele dossier? False? How would you know until they investigate properly. From what I gather, the dossier was a compilation of intelligence offered by the intelligence agencies of their allies, as part of opposition research, turned over to John McCain who turned it over to the FBI. One source was the Dutch intelligence which hacked into the GRU (I believe). There are indicators that raised flags, so let them do their job. That's what they're at now.

That's what the 400 page, 2 volumes of Mueller report, is about and the possible impeachment inquiry (just the inquiry) can determine. Fake or not? If the outcome doesn't suit what you want, then just hope they did their work according to their constitution. The Nixon impeachment came about in a similar fashion, a leak, but when the inquiry started a lot of the dirt just came out. From being a very popular President (way more than Trump), the bottom fell out.

PS. I find it strange the hate for Obama by some Pinoys in the US. I think it is due tto he colour of his skin. Pinoys (and Asians) can be just as racist. However, if Pinoys can just look at performance, it was fair to mediocre to bad. The bad was the Syrian war. IMO, Obama was the token "black" president for the white folks, and the acceptable "black" to the black community. Many Obama voters also voted for Trump. Amazing isn't it?
 

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Philippine Pavilion World Expo 2020 Dubai
June 9, 2019 Written by Judith Arellano Torres Photos courtesy of Department of Trade and Industry

DTI Sec. Ramon Lopez and the creative team led by architect Royal Pineda and curator Marian Pastor Roces present a preview of the Philippine Pavilion—the Bangkóta

It’s wavy. It’s permeable. It’s landscaped with indigenous plants—no, not Philippine plants, but flora native to Dubai. It’s called Bangkóta, an ancient Tagalog word for “coral reef.”

Finally, the much-awaited renders and details! We have our hands on a 117-page deck with dozens of drawings and diagrams detailing the Philippine pavilion undergoing construction for the World Expo opening on 20 October 2020.





 

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China takes down statement on sinking of Philippine fishing vessel
Gaea Katreena Cabico (Philstar.com) - June 15, 2019 - 10:59am

MANILA, Philippines — The Chinese Embassy in Manila took down its statement on the sinking of a Philippine fishing boat near Recto Bank, in which it has confirmed that a Chinese vessel was involved in the incident.

The statement, which was posted on the social media accounts of Chinese Embassy in Manila Friday night, was gone for hours. No explanation was given on why the statement was taken down.
 

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This is what happens when there are REAL issues to fight for.

Yes they have real issues to fight for but again, the people of HK have no choice that they are under China now and can no longer go back to British Rule.

Choosing independence is also futile for the territory.

As for us Pinoys especially those in HK, we can express our concern but should be discouraged in joining their protests.

And for here, the majority of Pinoys still support PRD and his administration.
 

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Anyway, my opinion concerning the ramming of a Pinoy fishing vessel and yes it is an International Relations and Foreign Affairs issue,

- The media tends to OVERSENSATIONALIZE the issue portraying the fisherman as "kawawa".

- The opposition destabilize (not criticize) PRD for not speaking on the issue when his Cabinet itself is taking action in resolving it.

- The fisherman should not allow themselves to be manipulated by The Opposition of The Left just like what happened to the parents of Mary Jane Veloso.

- Marine vessels are better off having a "camera" to record such incidents.
 

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MSM and their Dilawan overlords are also insinuating the Chinese Government has something to do with this, i.e. that they ordered their vessels to sink our vessels.

Pathetic.
 

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Anyway, my opinion concerning the ramming of a Pinoy fishing vessel and yes it is an International Relations and Foreign Affairs issue,

- The media tends to OVERSENSATIONALIZE the issue portraying the fisherman as "kawawa".

- The opposition destabilize (not criticize) PRD for not speaking on the issue when his Cabinet itself is taking action in resolving it.

- The fisherman should not allow themselves to be manipulated by The Opposition of The Left just like what happened to the parents of Mary Jane Veloso.

- Marine vessels are better off having a "camera" to record such incidents.
I like that. Just veer off a bit, I came across this video by a couple of Americans on a world trip, sailing - Offshore Fiishing Filipino Style. Impressive mother ship, it also talks about what's on these humongous bancas.

 

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Yes they have real issues to fight for but again, the people of HK have no choice that they are under China now and can no longer go back to British Rule.

Choosing independence is also futile for the territory.

As for us Pinoys especially those in HK, we can express our concern but should be discouraged in joining their protests.

And for here, the majority of Pinoys still support PRD and his administration.
They had 99 years to plan ahead. Before the handover to PRC, Canada (sp Vancouver) was swamped with Hongkong immigrants. They will just have to learn to live PRC style, after 99 years of western "democratic" lifestyle.
 

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^ Yup. The Reed Bank incident may be just an accident, a collision, but moving away and NOT rescuing the 22 fishermen is just BARBARIC. The Chinese boat captain, even if it was an accident, has to be punished for that act alone.
 

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^ Yup. The Reed Bank incident may be just an accident, a collision, but moving away and NOT rescuing the 22 fishermen is just BARBARIC. The Chinese boat captain, even if it was an accident, has to be punished for that act alone.
As much as we want to side with our fishermen, such is hard to prove with words. The fishermen had no cameras or any recording device to record such incident.

Unless there is satellite imagery of the incident.

But nevertheless, those found guilty should be punished either that from our authorities or China.
 

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As much as we want to side with our fishermen, such is hard to prove with words. The fishermen had no cameras or any recording device to record such incident.

Unless there is satellite imagery of the incident.

But nevertheless, those found guilty should be punished either that from our authorities or China.
Even with warring Navies, they would rescue enemy sailors after sinking their ships... Or at least throw some rafts on their way if they feel their own ship is still under threat with enemies.

Baka walang seminar tong mga sailors na to? Or walang respeto sa traditions?
 

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^ Yup. The Reed Bank incident may be just an accident, a collision, but moving away and NOT rescuing the 22 fishermen is just BARBARIC. The Chinese boat captain, even if it was an accident, has to be punished for that act alone.
You nailed it. The rest will come out IF China decides to charge the captain of that fishing vessel for leaving the scene and not pick up the Pinoy fishermen. That may be even covered by intl maritime convention, not only universal practice. The rest at this point is all kuro kuro haka haka chika chika. At least, the Pinoy fishermen managed to take home their catch, CONTRARY to initial media reports, they lost their catch. :nuts:
 
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